Pacers Pick Tracking (Update: #19 officially)

[OAKLEY_2]

Nice wizards good win
1.5 games up on det

We are most assuredly going to hold position at 31. Working backwards we should figure out if we try to get Juan Nunez falling to 31 or if we reach for him with the Pacer's pick. Let's say we like him enough to use the Pacer's pick. Then sigh of relief we win the 50-50 and keep number 6.

6. Reed Sheppard - Shooting Savant Freshman Guard age 19.
19. Juan Nunez - Spanish National Team Guard age 19.
31. Ryan Dunn - Forward age 21. 6'8 Defensive stopper.

Nunez successfully falls
6. Reed Sheppard - Shooting Savant Freshman Guard age 19.
19. Tyler Smith - Athletic Power Forward 6'11 age 19.
31. Juan Nunez - Spanish National Team Guard age 19.

Topic falls to us
6. Nikola Topic - Home run 6'6 point guard age 18.5.
19. Tyler Smith - Athletic Power Forward 6'11 age 19.
31. Zvonimir Ivišić. - Monster Big 7'2 with 3 point stroke age 20.

We strike out with Lotto balls and Nunez is gone by 31.
19. Tyler Smith - Athletic Power Forward 6'11 age 19.
31. Ryan Dunn - Forward age 21. 6'8 Defensive stopper.

I am happy with Poetl/Kelly/Gueye as the 5's.

[TNRaps4life]

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[ArthurVandelay]

Best case for Toronto in the east is obviously to see Pacers finish 7th/8th and lose in first play in game then to lose the second to Atlanta/Chicago

Out west, it would be best to see LA finish 7th or 8th to avoid GS meaning SAC/PHX finish 9th then Lakers win first play vs in game setting up GS to win vs SAC/PHX. Lakers currently 1.5 games behind SAC/PHX.

That scenario should put the Pacers pick at 12.

[MiamiSPX]

Best case for Toronto in the east is obviously to see Pacers finish 7th/8th and lose in first play in game then to lose the second to Atlanta/Chicago

Out west, it would be best to see LA finish 7th or 8th to avoid GS meaning SAC/PHX finish 9th then Lakers win first play vs in game setting up GS to win vs SAC/PHX. Lakers currently 1.5 games behind SAC/PHX.

That scenario should put the Pacers pick at 12.

That's quite the list of things we need to go right lol. I just want Indy to fall to the play-in against MIA or PHI. Even with home court, I don't see them winning that game. Then we just need to hope they lose that 2nd game. It could happen, it's boom or bust with them. One night they look like world beaters and then the next game they get 135+ dropped on them. If they do make the playoffs, I still firmly believe they get bounced in the 1st round easily.

[ArthurVandelay]

Best case for Toronto in the east is obviously to see Pacers finish 7th/8th and lose in first play in game then to lose the second to Atlanta/Chicago

Out west, it would be best to see LA finish 7th or 8th to avoid GS meaning SAC/PHX finish 9th then Lakers win first play vs in game setting up GS to win vs SAC/PHX. Lakers currently 1.5 games behind SAC/PHX.

That scenario should put the Pacers pick at 12.

That's quite the list of things we need to go right lol. I just want Indy to fall to the play-in against MIA or PHI. Even with home court, I don't see them winning that game. Then we just need to hope they lose that 2nd game. It could happen, it's boom or bust with them. One night they look like world beaters and then the next game they get 135+ dropped on them. If they do make the playoffs, I still firmly believe they get bounced in the 1st round easily.

Yeah, just a few stars needing to align.

Another thing about Pacers losing play in and GS making playoffs is it puts the Pacers (Raptors) pick ahead of GS (Portland). I despise Portland. Not sure if it is due to their GM out tanking Raps or JRoy lol

[Smalltown]

Working backwards we should figure out if we try to get Juan Nunez falling to 31 or if we reach for him with the Pacer's pick. Let's say we like him enough to use the Pacer's pick.

I've liked Nunez for a couple years now. But i still think our picks are all too high to spend on him. He's a really smart player but his athleticism and shoot leave a lot to be desired. I'd be all over him with a 45 or lower pick. But 31 will have too many other intriguing first round slides to choose from.

No doubt he's on our radar though with Sergio Scariolo the coach of the Spanish national team. Sergio has an open line to Masai so no doubt they had some conversations.

[Scase]

Best case for Toronto in the east is obviously to see Pacers finish 7th/8th and lose in first play in game then to lose the second to Atlanta/Chicago

Out west, it would be best to see LA finish 7th or 8th to avoid GS meaning SAC/PHX finish 9th then Lakers win first play vs in game setting up GS to win vs SAC/PHX. Lakers currently 1.5 games behind SAC/PHX.

That scenario should put the Pacers pick at 12.

That's quite the list of things we need to go right lol. I just want Indy to fall to the play-in against MIA or PHI. Even with home court, I don't see them winning that game. Then we just need to hope they lose that 2nd game. It could happen, it's boom or bust with them. One night they look like world beaters and then the next game they get 135+ dropped on them. If they do make the playoffs, I still firmly believe they get bounced in the 1st round easily.

The word "quagmire" appropriately describes the situation our FO has put the team into. In no way, should you ever be at the mercy of like 5+ teams all doing something right/wrong, just for you to salvage a 60 loss season, god damn yikes.

[Fairview4Life]

In no way, should you ever be at the mercy of like 5+ teams all doing something right/wrong, just for you to salvage a 60 loss season, god damn yikes.

We aren't? People are just hoping for the absolute best case scenario. I want the Pacers to drop into the lottery and get the 4th pick. That doesn't mean that's the only possible way to salvage this season, it's just the perfect case scenario.

[Scase]

In no way, should you ever be at the mercy of like 5+ teams all doing something right/wrong, just for you to salvage a 60 loss season, god damn yikes.

We aren't? People are just hoping for the absolute best case scenario. I want the Pacers to drop into the lottery and get the 4th pick. That doesn't mean that's the only possible way to salvage this season, it's just the perfect case scenario.

Fair enough, it is more of a perfect situation, however I think ending up with a 15-18th pick and losing our own (odds are not in our favour) would make this a complete waste of a season. SO that Pacers pick being as high as possible is one of the few things that might provide any sort of hope for this year. YMMV though.

[billy_hoyle]

In no way, should you ever be at the mercy of like 5+ teams all doing something right/wrong, just for you to salvage a 60 loss season, god damn yikes.

We aren't? People are just hoping for the absolute best case scenario. I want the Pacers to drop into the lottery and get the 4th pick. That doesn't mean that's the only possible way to salvage this season, it's just the perfect case scenario.

Fair enough, it is more of a perfect situation, however I think ending up with a 15-18th pick and losing our own (odds are not in our favour) would make this a complete waste of a season. SO that Pacers pick being as high as possible is one of the few things that might provide any sort of hope for this year. YMMV though.

What if we keep the pick, the Pacers pick hits 15-17, the Detroit pick starts the 2nd round.

Are we happy adding 2 1sts to BBQ Dick? Or is it already a failure because we would owe a pick next draft? Would you need us to trade Yak for a mid-1st to replenish the pick coffers and make it a 'better' rebuild?

You seem to be very pessimistic about the rebuild right now. I'm not sure why. I think if we get somewhat lucky here (basically a coin flip to keep our pick), we are pretty well positioned to turn it around quick. Kinda like the Memphis Ja Morant rebuild. Basically a two year bottom out for elite prospects. We already Tampa tanked for Barnes, now we get our JJJ this year in Sarr?

[Scase]

We aren't? People are just hoping for the absolute best case scenario. I want the Pacers to drop into the lottery and get the 4th pick. That doesn't mean that's the only possible way to salvage this season, it's just the perfect case scenario.

Fair enough, it is more of a perfect situation, however I think ending up with a 15-18th pick and losing our own (odds are not in our favour) would make this a complete waste of a season. SO that Pacers pick being as high as possible is one of the few things that might provide any sort of hope for this year. YMMV though.

What if we keep the pick, the Pacers pick hits 15-17, the Detroit pick starts the 2nd round.

Are we happy adding 2 1sts to BBQ Dick? Or is it already a failure because we would owe a pick next draft? Would you need us to trade Yak for a mid-1st to replenish the pick coffers and make it a 'better' rebuild?

You seem to be very pessimistic about the rebuild right now. I'm not sure why. I think if we get somewhat lucky here (basically a coin flip to keep our pick), we are pretty well positioned to turn it around quick. Kinda like the Memphis Ja Morant rebuild. Basically a two year bottom out for elite prospects. We already Tampa tanked for Barnes, now we get our JJJ this year in Sarr?

Ideally I would like us to convey this year, trade Jak in the summer, and eat dirt for a year or two in good drafts and start from there.

I have little faith in it because we lack top end talent outside of Scottie. A 15-17th pick and a 31st in what is rumoured to be one of the weakest drafts in the last 10+ years, is not going to save this team. We need high-end talent, we don't have the assets to trade to get those, so the draft is our best bet, but typically you need higher picks for that.

This draft, if we are lucky, is likely to provide us bench depth, and even that is dubious. Picks outside the lotto and in the 2nd round seldom develop into useful players in years with good drafts, so it becomes less likely in bad ones. Could we draft a great player who blows up? For sure, but odds are vastly against that.

Average career win shares (naturally) decline the further down the draft board you go, so I won't exactly bank on those picks making a massive difference.



I am not willing to consider this a full on rebuild until I see what is done this summer. For now, it's a messy unplanned re-tool.

[YogurtProducer]

Fair enough, it is more of a perfect situation, however I think ending up with a 15-18th pick and losing our own (odds are not in our favour) would make this a complete waste of a season. SO that Pacers pick being as high as possible is one of the few things that might provide any sort of hope for this year. YMMV though.

What if we keep the pick, the Pacers pick hits 15-17, the Detroit pick starts the 2nd round.

Are we happy adding 2 1sts to BBQ Dick? Or is it already a failure because we would owe a pick next draft? Would you need us to trade Yak for a mid-1st to replenish the pick coffers and make it a 'better' rebuild?

You seem to be very pessimistic about the rebuild right now. I'm not sure why. I think if we get somewhat lucky here (basically a coin flip to keep our pick), we are pretty well positioned to turn it around quick. Kinda like the Memphis Ja Morant rebuild. Basically a two year bottom out for elite prospects. We already Tampa tanked for Barnes, now we get our JJJ this year in Sarr?

Ideally I would like us to convey this year, trade Jak in the summer, and eat dirt for a year or two in good drafts and start from there.

I have little faith in it because we lack top end talent outside of Scottie. A 15-17th pick and a 31st in what is rumoured to be one of the weakest drafts in the last 10+ years, is not going to save this team. We need high-end talent, we don't have the assets to trade to get those, so the draft is our best bet, but typically you need higher picks for that.

This draft, if we are lucky, is likely to provide us bench depth, and even that is dubious. Picks outside the lotto and in the 2nd round seldom develop into useful players in years with good drafts, so it becomes less likely in bad ones. Could we draft a great player who blows up? For sure, but odds are vastly against that.

Average career win shares (naturally) decline the further down the draft board you go, so I won't exactly bank on those picks making a massive difference.



I am not willing to consider this a full on rebuild until I see what is done this summer. For now, it's a messy unplanned re-tool.

So why would we convey this year if the plan is to suck for two years anyways? Why not get the top 6 first this year and in 2025 and in 2026 and convey 2 2nds instead?

Also - just a really questionable decision to want to tank thru 2026 and hope Scottie does not want to leave already after 4 straight years of being bad.

[SpezNc]

The Pacers are on a winning sequence and poise to easily beat the Nets tonight

The Indy pick going to fall in 20’s isn’t it ?

[TimeForChange]

The Pacers are on a winning sequence and poise to easily beat the Nets tonight

The Indy pick going to fall in 20’s isn’t it ?

no

[TimeForChange]

Brooklyn comes back to take the lead

[PD28]

I believe in Cam Thomas for tonight!

[LoveMyRaps]

Jinxing has been working for me as of late, so........

PACERS GONNA WIN! SMH CANT BELIEVE BROOKYLN LET US DOWN.

[PD28]

Claxton just bodying the Pacers.

Pacers announcers: Oh he thinks he can bully down low...

Yes and he continues to do so LOL

[LoveMyRaps]

Claxton just bodying the Pacers.

Pacers announcers: Oh he thinks he can bully down low...

Yes and he continues to do so LOL

Quinn Bucker is one of the worst commentators in the league.
Whenever we used to play the Pacers, he used to disrespect Siakam on every possession.
Siakam shoots a mid range jumper "You can live with that, that's not in his bag!" - LMAO.

[CazOnReal]

What if we got 5th best odds instead of 6th? Haha just kidding!

Unless..?