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I'm personally good with seeing how this team does before making any additional moves.
RJ has gotten better and is fairly young.
He provides a different element which our team lacks in which is driving in and getting fouls. He's an additional ball handler too which is great and has size. I know there's tax implications but we have until the end of the year to fix that? I'd rather see how this team does first at this point unless we get a deal we can't refuse.
RJ has gotten better and is fairly young.
He provides a different element which our team lacks in which is driving in and getting fouls. He's an additional ball handler too which is great and has size. I know there's tax implications but we have until the end of the year to fix that? I'd rather see how this team does first at this point unless we get a deal we can't refuse.
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Son Goku 25 wrote:I'm personally good with seeing how this team does before making any additional moves.
RJ has gotten better and is fairly young.
He provides a different element which our team lacks in which is driving in and getting fouls. He's an additional ball handler too which is great and has size. I know there's tax implications but we have until the end of the year to fix that? I'd rather see how this team does first at this point unless we get a deal we can't refuse.
I think that’s going to be the case anyways. I outside of potentially the bucks and kings, I don’t see anyone else wanting RJ.
I expect this current roster to be all there for the start of the season.
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OakleyDokely wrote:They are in a very good spot as long as SGA is a MVP level player. All I'm saying is that the CBA makes it very hard to keep teams like theirs together.Clutch0z24 wrote:OakleyDokely wrote:
Signing all three to extensions and keeping all three long term are seperrwte issues.
Both Chet and Jwill still have a year on their rookie deals before the extensions kick in so it isn't a problem next year. The problems begin after that and get worse once SGAs supermax kicks in.
Regardless its a good situation to be in....They can sign them to extensions and obviously winning will play a big part in the long term....But even if they decide to pivot off any of them they will get a gold mine in a trade.....But even if they hold the 3 guys they can try and win with young players on small contracts....They will prolly be title favs next season as well....They will be in no rush to blow up the team that just won the title...
https://clutchpoints.com/nba/oklahoma-city-thunder/why-thunder-800-million-max-contracts-wont-lead-second-apron-nightmare
Here is something you can read....I think Presti is well aware of this and prepared for this long ago in advance....They will continue to build through the draft....Keep the 3 stars together.....While winning games and being title contenders....
In the draft....You may not always find superstars in the first round....But if you draft well you can find high elite role players to fill out your roster....Presti is a good drafter so no problems there....
They already have the hard part done in team building and thats having a legit number 1 MVP level championship go to player....Have 2 players set as the 2nd, 3rd options....
Now they just have to continue to add good role players via draft which is the more easier thing to do via draft....I think they will be fine...
Also TV deals will make the cap space go up more as well so that will help also...
They may lose impactfull role players over time ....But they will try and replace these guys with draft picks and players on smaller contracts...

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Clutch0z24 wrote:OakleyDokely wrote:They are in a very good spot as long as SGA is a MVP level player. All I'm saying is that the CBA makes it very hard to keep teams like theirs together.Clutch0z24 wrote:
Regardless its a good situation to be in....They can sign them to extensions and obviously winning will play a big part in the long term....But even if they decide to pivot off any of them they will get a gold mine in a trade.....But even if they hold the 3 guys they can try and win with young players on small contracts....They will prolly be title favs next season as well....They will be in no rush to blow up the team that just won the title...
https://clutchpoints.com/nba/oklahoma-city-thunder/why-thunder-800-million-max-contracts-wont-lead-second-apron-nightmare
Here is something you can read....I think Presti is well aware of this and prepared for this long ago in advance....They will continue to build through the draft....Keep the 3 stars together.....While winning games and being title contenders....
In the draft....You may not always find superstars in the first round....But if you draft well you can find high elite role players to fill out your roster....Presti is a good drafter so no problems there....
They already have the hard part done in team building and thats having a legit number 1 MVP level championship go to player....Have 2 players set as the 2nd, 3rd options....
Now they just have to continue to add good role players via draft which is the more easier thing to do via draft....I think they will be fine...
Also TV deals will make the cap space go up more as well so that will help also...
Is Presti a good drafter? For a decade he was one of the worst. He did well getting Jdubs but people forget he valued Dieng higher. The previous year he drafted Giddey over Franz, Sengun and Trey. The year before that he drafted Poku over Maxey, IQ, Pritchard and Bane. I trust him making top 5 picks.
It’s been a mixed bag in the 2nd round. Overall a solid job in finding talent like Wiggins and signing Dort. But as you’d expect, lots of misses. I don’t even know if Maledon finished his rookie contract before going overseas.
I wouldn’t feel that comfortable with Presti finding talent late in the draft because it’s been hit and miss with him. Although he has found talent in that range before.
It sounds great on paper. We heard the Nuggets, Celtics, Bucks and Warriors were going to fill out their roster through the draft. It hasn’t worked out well for any of them.
OKC won the championship because of SGA and from defense especially from players like Caruso and Dort. I don’t see either of those guys taking pay cuts.
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Los_29 wrote:Clutch0z24 wrote:OakleyDokely wrote:They are in a very good spot as long as SGA is a MVP level player. All I'm saying is that the CBA makes it very hard to keep teams like theirs together.
https://clutchpoints.com/nba/oklahoma-city-thunder/why-thunder-800-million-max-contracts-wont-lead-second-apron-nightmare
Here is something you can read....I think Presti is well aware of this and prepared for this long ago in advance....They will continue to build through the draft....Keep the 3 stars together.....While winning games and being title contenders....
In the draft....You may not always find superstars in the first round....But if you draft well you can find high elite role players to fill out your roster....Presti is a good drafter so no problems there....
They already have the hard part done in team building and thats having a legit number 1 MVP level championship go to player....Have 2 players set as the 2nd, 3rd options....
Now they just have to continue to add good role players via draft which is the more easier thing to do via draft....I think they will be fine...
Also TV deals will make the cap space go up more as well so that will help also...
Is Presti a good drafter? For a decade he was one of the worst. He did well getting Jdubs but people forget he valued Dieng higher. The previous year he drafted Giddey over Franz, Sengun and Trey. The year before that he drafted Poku over Maxey, IQ, Pritchard and Bane. I trust him making top 5 picks.
It’s been a mixed bag in the 2nd round. Overall a solid job in finding talent like Wiggins and signing Dort. But as you’d expect, lots of misses. I don’t even know if Maledon finished his rookie contract before going overseas.
I wouldn’t feel that comfortable with Presti finding talent late in the draft because it’s been hit and miss with him. Although he has found talent in that range before.
It sounds great on paper. We heard the Nuggets, Celtics, Bucks and Warriors were going to fill out their roster through the draft. It hasn’t worked out well for any of them.
OKC won the championship because of SGA and from defense especially from players like Caruso and Dort. I don’t see either of those guys taking pay cuts.
He’s drafted 3 MVP’s. Built 2 finals teams from the ground up from arguably the smallest market in the league.
I know you spent 90% of the 2020’s trying to downplay Sam Presti but he’s one of the best GM’s of all time. You don’t have to continue this agenda lol.
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HumbleRen wrote:Los_29 wrote:Clutch0z24 wrote:
https://clutchpoints.com/nba/oklahoma-city-thunder/why-thunder-800-million-max-contracts-wont-lead-second-apron-nightmare
Here is something you can read....I think Presti is well aware of this and prepared for this long ago in advance....They will continue to build through the draft....Keep the 3 stars together.....While winning games and being title contenders....
In the draft....You may not always find superstars in the first round....But if you draft well you can find high elite role players to fill out your roster....Presti is a good drafter so no problems there....
They already have the hard part done in team building and thats having a legit number 1 MVP level championship go to player....Have 2 players set as the 2nd, 3rd options....
Now they just have to continue to add good role players via draft which is the more easier thing to do via draft....I think they will be fine...
Also TV deals will make the cap space go up more as well so that will help also...
Is Presti a good drafter? For a decade he was one of the worst. He did well getting Jdubs but people forget he valued Dieng higher. The previous year he drafted Giddey over Franz, Sengun and Trey. The year before that he drafted Poku over Maxey, IQ, Pritchard and Bane. I trust him making top 5 picks.
It’s been a mixed bag in the 2nd round. Overall a solid job in finding talent like Wiggins and signing Dort. But as you’d expect, lots of misses. I don’t even know if Maledon finished his rookie contract before going overseas.
I wouldn’t feel that comfortable with Presti finding talent late in the draft because it’s been hit and miss with him. Although he has found talent in that range before.
It sounds great on paper. We heard the Nuggets, Celtics, Bucks and Warriors were going to fill out their roster through the draft. It hasn’t worked out well for any of them.
OKC won the championship because of SGA and from defense especially from players like Caruso and Dort. I don’t see either of those guys taking pay cuts.
He’s drafted 3 MVP’s. Built 2 finals teams from the ground up from arguably the smallest market in the league.
I know you spent 90% of the 2020’s trying to downplay Sam Presti but he’s one of the best GM’s of all time. You don’t have to continue this agenda lol.
Yep and during Masai run he had not built a championship team from the ground up....He took what BC built and made it better....No discrediting Masai but if you are going to try and discredit Presti....You have to look in the mirror as well....
Presti & Masai are both elite GMs though which is why they have a good rep....We don't have Masai no more so who knows if we will even have a competent front office in the future....
Every GMs make mistakes but its obvious this OKC team is not going anywhere anytime soon....And Shai a beloved Canadian is leading them to the promise land for a while imo....Shai will be the face of the league i think and the next coming of Kobe level player (Prolly even better in terms of stats)....
Presti built a title team that looks to at least have alot more runs in them as for us who built a title team that lasted 1 season....You sound like a blatant jealous hater if you discredit him when he took a team that has no business to even being in the title picture to multiple finals and has a title with a long stretch to add more titles....

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The most threatening way to say "Yeah RJ is gone at the deadline. At the latest."
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Los_29 wrote:Clutch0z24 wrote:OakleyDokely wrote:They are in a very good spot as long as SGA is a MVP level player. All I'm saying is that the CBA makes it very hard to keep teams like theirs together.
https://clutchpoints.com/nba/oklahoma-city-thunder/why-thunder-800-million-max-contracts-wont-lead-second-apron-nightmare
Here is something you can read....I think Presti is well aware of this and prepared for this long ago in advance....They will continue to build through the draft....Keep the 3 stars together.....While winning games and being title contenders....
In the draft....You may not always find superstars in the first round....But if you draft well you can find high elite role players to fill out your roster....Presti is a good drafter so no problems there....
They already have the hard part done in team building and thats having a legit number 1 MVP level championship go to player....Have 2 players set as the 2nd, 3rd options....
Now they just have to continue to add good role players via draft which is the more easier thing to do via draft....I think they will be fine...
Also TV deals will make the cap space go up more as well so that will help also...
Is Presti a good drafter? For a decade he was one of the worst. He did well getting Jdubs but people forget he valued Dieng higher. The previous year he drafted Giddey over Franz, Sengun and Trey. The year before that he drafted Poku over Maxey, IQ, Pritchard and Bane. I trust him making top 5 picks.
It’s been a mixed bag in the 2nd round. Overall a solid job in finding talent like Wiggins and signing Dort. But as you’d expect, lots of misses. I don’t even know if Maledon finished his rookie contract before going overseas.
I wouldn’t feel that comfortable with Presti finding talent late in the draft because it’s been hit and miss with him. Although he has found talent in that range before.
It sounds great on paper. We heard the Nuggets, Celtics, Bucks and Warriors were going to fill out their roster through the draft. It hasn’t worked out well for any of them.
OKC won the championship because of SGA and from defense especially from players like Caruso and Dort. I don’t see either of those guys taking pay cuts.
Hit and miss is pretty normal late in the draft. You a hater.
Bane the 30th pick (almost every team passed). Pritchard the 26th.
Maxey 21st (he didn't even had a pick in 2020 until 25th). And he picked Quickley with that pick. Your savior, your up and coming all star starter point guard.
All of them were picked in the same draft.
He still has one of the better records in the league, what he is doing ever since becoming GM of the Sonics/Thunder back in 2007 is awesome. Only real misses was the Harden deal were the owners panicked, and the Melo trade but he was quick in trading them all away for a great haul of picks. PG trade was masterclass.
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HumbleRen wrote:Son Goku 25 wrote:I'm personally good with seeing how this team does before making any additional moves.
RJ has gotten better and is fairly young.
He provides a different element which our team lacks in which is driving in and getting fouls. He's an additional ball handler too which is great and has size. I know there's tax implications but we have until the end of the year to fix that? I'd rather see how this team does first at this point unless we get a deal we can't refuse.
I think that’s going to be the case anyways. I outside of potentially the bucks and kings, I don’t see anyone else wanting RJ.
I expect this current roster to be all there for the start of the season.
I hope so. I want to see this healthy lineup play!
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Mattatron wrote:Los_29 wrote:Clutch0z24 wrote:
https://clutchpoints.com/nba/oklahoma-city-thunder/why-thunder-800-million-max-contracts-wont-lead-second-apron-nightmare
Here is something you can read....I think Presti is well aware of this and prepared for this long ago in advance....They will continue to build through the draft....Keep the 3 stars together.....While winning games and being title contenders....
In the draft....You may not always find superstars in the first round....But if you draft well you can find high elite role players to fill out your roster....Presti is a good drafter so no problems there....
They already have the hard part done in team building and thats having a legit number 1 MVP level championship go to player....Have 2 players set as the 2nd, 3rd options....
Now they just have to continue to add good role players via draft which is the more easier thing to do via draft....I think they will be fine...
Also TV deals will make the cap space go up more as well so that will help also...
Is Presti a good drafter? For a decade he was one of the worst. He did well getting Jdubs but people forget he valued Dieng higher. The previous year he drafted Giddey over Franz, Sengun and Trey. The year before that he drafted Poku over Maxey, IQ, Pritchard and Bane. I trust him making top 5 picks.
It’s been a mixed bag in the 2nd round. Overall a solid job in finding talent like Wiggins and signing Dort. But as you’d expect, lots of misses. I don’t even know if Maledon finished his rookie contract before going overseas.
I wouldn’t feel that comfortable with Presti finding talent late in the draft because it’s been hit and miss with him. Although he has found talent in that range before.
It sounds great on paper. We heard the Nuggets, Celtics, Bucks and Warriors were going to fill out their roster through the draft. It hasn’t worked out well for any of them.
OKC won the championship because of SGA and from defense especially from players like Caruso and Dort. I don’t see either of those guys taking pay cuts.
Hit and miss is pretty normal late in the draft. You a hater.
Bane the 30th pick (almost every team passed). Pritchard the 26th.
Maxey 21st (he didn't even had a pick in 2020 until 25th). And he picked Quickley with that pick. Your savior, your up and coming all star starter point guard.
All of them were picked in the same draft.
He still has one of the better records in the league, what he is doing ever since becoming GM of the Sonics/Thunder back in 2007 is awesome. Only real misses was the Harden deal were the owners panicked, and the Melo trade but he was quick in trading them all away for a great haul of picks. PG trade was masterclass.
OKC traded Rubio and the draft rights to IQ and McDaniels for Poku and a 2nd rounder. Ouch. He didn’t draft IQ and McDaniels. He drafted Poku. So yes, he had a pick and fumbled it badly.
The fact it’s hit and miss is exactly why it’s not a great strategy. He doesn’t have a great draft record in that range. Not sure many that do. It’s very hard to pick in that range and find gems year in and year out. We just got spoiled with Masai’s drafting that we think it’s normal.
lol sorry but I had to laugh at the George trade was a masterclass comment.

He got nothing for Harden. He also lost KD for nothing. OKC traded Kanter and a 2nd rounder for Melo and then shipped him off a year or two later for Schroeder. Lateral moves at best there.
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Los_29 wrote:Mattatron wrote:Los_29 wrote:
Is Presti a good drafter? For a decade he was one of the worst. He did well getting Jdubs but people forget he valued Dieng higher. The previous year he drafted Giddey over Franz, Sengun and Trey. The year before that he drafted Poku over Maxey, IQ, Pritchard and Bane. I trust him making top 5 picks.
It’s been a mixed bag in the 2nd round. Overall a solid job in finding talent like Wiggins and signing Dort. But as you’d expect, lots of misses. I don’t even know if Maledon finished his rookie contract before going overseas.
I wouldn’t feel that comfortable with Presti finding talent late in the draft because it’s been hit and miss with him. Although he has found talent in that range before.
It sounds great on paper. We heard the Nuggets, Celtics, Bucks and Warriors were going to fill out their roster through the draft. It hasn’t worked out well for any of them.
OKC won the championship because of SGA and from defense especially from players like Caruso and Dort. I don’t see either of those guys taking pay cuts.
Hit and miss is pretty normal late in the draft. You a hater.
Bane the 30th pick (almost every team passed). Pritchard the 26th.
Maxey 21st (he didn't even had a pick in 2020 until 25th). And he picked Quickley with that pick. Your savior, your up and coming all star starter point guard.
All of them were picked in the same draft.
He still has one of the better records in the league, what he is doing ever since becoming GM of the Sonics/Thunder back in 2007 is awesome. Only real misses was the Harden deal were the owners panicked, and the Melo trade but he was quick in trading them all away for a great haul of picks. PG trade was masterclass.
OKC traded Rubio and the draft rights to IQ and McDaniels for Poku and a 2nd rounder. Ouch. He didn’t draft IQ and McDaniels. He drafted Poku. So yes, he had a pick and fumbled it badly.
The fact it’s hit and miss is exactly why it’s not a great strategy. He doesn’t have a great draft record in that range. Not sure many that do. It’s very hard to pick in that range and find gems year in and year out. We just got spoiled with Masai’s drafting that we think it’s normal.
lol sorry but I had to laugh at the George trade was a masterclass comment.Any RealGm’er could’ve made that trade. Presti didn’t even initiate it. Kawhi signing with the Clippers and foolishly choosing George as his sidekick is what initiated it. Presti did literally nothing.
He got nothing for Harden. He also lost KD for nothing. OKC traded Kanter and a 2nd rounder for Melo and then shipped him off a year or two later for Schroeder. Lateral moves at best there.
How does any of the hate you throw on past decisions impact where the team is at in 2025?....They just won the NBA title, They have the league MVP on a long contract through his prime years, They have a roster full of young players who can grow and get better still, They have Topic/Sorber coming into the team both who look promising....And have a treasure chest of draft picks in their box to play with (Trades or draft)
You can say they did this wrong or do that wrong and also say "Not a great strategy" all you want until you realize the strategy worked and won them a title and they have a potential dynasty...

Also all the people saying this won't last....It will because OKC will keep the big 3 in tact and they have lots of options to build around that big 3 who already proved to be a championship level core when they are still babies in the NBA and are not close to their peaks....
But ok whatever you say man lol...A realgmer armchair GM such as yourself knows better than a guy whos been doing this since 2007 in the NBA ....But we will pretend you know what your talking about...

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Clutch0z24 wrote:Los_29 wrote:Mattatron wrote:
Hit and miss is pretty normal late in the draft. You a hater.
Bane the 30th pick (almost every team passed). Pritchard the 26th.
Maxey 21st (he didn't even had a pick in 2020 until 25th). And he picked Quickley with that pick. Your savior, your up and coming all star starter point guard.
All of them were picked in the same draft.
He still has one of the better records in the league, what he is doing ever since becoming GM of the Sonics/Thunder back in 2007 is awesome. Only real misses was the Harden deal were the owners panicked, and the Melo trade but he was quick in trading them all away for a great haul of picks. PG trade was masterclass.
OKC traded Rubio and the draft rights to IQ and McDaniels for Poku and a 2nd rounder. Ouch. He didn’t draft IQ and McDaniels. He drafted Poku. So yes, he had a pick and fumbled it badly.
The fact it’s hit and miss is exactly why it’s not a great strategy. He doesn’t have a great draft record in that range. Not sure many that do. It’s very hard to pick in that range and find gems year in and year out. We just got spoiled with Masai’s drafting that we think it’s normal.
lol sorry but I had to laugh at the George trade was a masterclass comment.Any RealGm’er could’ve made that trade. Presti didn’t even initiate it. Kawhi signing with the Clippers and foolishly choosing George as his sidekick is what initiated it. Presti did literally nothing.
He got nothing for Harden. He also lost KD for nothing. OKC traded Kanter and a 2nd rounder for Melo and then shipped him off a year or two later for Schroeder. Lateral moves at best there.
How does any of the hate you throw on past decisions impact where the team is at in 2025?....They just won the NBA title, They have the league MVP on a long contract through his prime years, They have a roster full of young players who can grow and get better still, They have Topic/Sorber coming into the team both who look promising....And have a treasure chest of draft picks in their box to play with (Trades or draft)
You can say they did this wrong or do that wrong and also say "Not a great strategy" all you want until you realize the strategy worked and won them a title and they have a potential dynasty...
Also all the people saying this won't last....It will because OKC will keep the big 3 in tact and they have lots of options to build around that big 3 who already proved to be a championship level core when they are still babies in the NBA and are not close to their peaks....
But ok whatever you say man lol...A realgmer armchair GM such as yourself knows better than a guy whos been doing this since 2007 in the NBA ....But we will pretend you know what your talking about...
They’ll augment the cheap rookie scale contracts with a couple of over paid elite role players on SHORT contracts. Maybe not to the extent of IH but more than MLE. They’ll probably trade some of their picks/rookie scale contracts to get bird rights or do sign and trades with said picks/rookie contracts.
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I just realized Boucher has yet to sign with anyone. I don't know what that means. Does no one want him? Is he waiting for the Raptors to sort out roster decisions. I would assume if he wasn't coming back that he would have signed with another team by now.
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Clutch0z24 wrote:HumbleRen wrote:Los_29 wrote:
Is Presti a good drafter? For a decade he was one of the worst. He did well getting Jdubs but people forget he valued Dieng higher. The previous year he drafted Giddey over Franz, Sengun and Trey. The year before that he drafted Poku over Maxey, IQ, Pritchard and Bane. I trust him making top 5 picks.
It’s been a mixed bag in the 2nd round. Overall a solid job in finding talent like Wiggins and signing Dort. But as you’d expect, lots of misses. I don’t even know if Maledon finished his rookie contract before going overseas.
I wouldn’t feel that comfortable with Presti finding talent late in the draft because it’s been hit and miss with him. Although he has found talent in that range before.
It sounds great on paper. We heard the Nuggets, Celtics, Bucks and Warriors were going to fill out their roster through the draft. It hasn’t worked out well for any of them.
OKC won the championship because of SGA and from defense especially from players like Caruso and Dort. I don’t see either of those guys taking pay cuts.
He’s drafted 3 MVP’s. Built 2 finals teams from the ground up from arguably the smallest market in the league.
I know you spent 90% of the 2020’s trying to downplay Sam Presti but he’s one of the best GM’s of all time. You don’t have to continue this agenda lol.
Yep and during Masai run he had not built a championship team from the ground up....He took what BC built and made it better....No discrediting Masai but if you are going to try and discredit Presti....You have to look in the mirror as well....
Presti & Masai are both elite GMs though which is why they have a good rep....We don't have Masai no more so who knows if we will even have a competent front office in the future....
Every GMs make mistakes but its obvious this OKC team is not going anywhere anytime soon....And Shai a beloved Canadian is leading them to the promise land for a while imo....Shai will be the face of the league i think and the next coming of Kobe level player (Prolly even better in terms of stats)....
Presti built a title team that looks to at least have alot more runs in them as for us who built a title team that lasted 1 season....You sound like a blatant jealous hater if you discredit him when he took a team that has no business to even being in the title picture to multiple finals and has a title with a long stretch to add more titles....
The only player from BC's core on the title team was Lowry. Every other player was a Masai acquisition.
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Clutch0z24 wrote:Los_29 wrote:Mattatron wrote:
Hit and miss is pretty normal late in the draft. You a hater.
Bane the 30th pick (almost every team passed). Pritchard the 26th.
Maxey 21st (he didn't even had a pick in 2020 until 25th). And he picked Quickley with that pick. Your savior, your up and coming all star starter point guard.
All of them were picked in the same draft.
He still has one of the better records in the league, what he is doing ever since becoming GM of the Sonics/Thunder back in 2007 is awesome. Only real misses was the Harden deal were the owners panicked, and the Melo trade but he was quick in trading them all away for a great haul of picks. PG trade was masterclass.
OKC traded Rubio and the draft rights to IQ and McDaniels for Poku and a 2nd rounder. Ouch. He didn’t draft IQ and McDaniels. He drafted Poku. So yes, he had a pick and fumbled it badly.
The fact it’s hit and miss is exactly why it’s not a great strategy. He doesn’t have a great draft record in that range. Not sure many that do. It’s very hard to pick in that range and find gems year in and year out. We just got spoiled with Masai’s drafting that we think it’s normal.
lol sorry but I had to laugh at the George trade was a masterclass comment.Any RealGm’er could’ve made that trade. Presti didn’t even initiate it. Kawhi signing with the Clippers and foolishly choosing George as his sidekick is what initiated it. Presti did literally nothing.
He got nothing for Harden. He also lost KD for nothing. OKC traded Kanter and a 2nd rounder for Melo and then shipped him off a year or two later for Schroeder. Lateral moves at best there.
How does any of the hate you throw on past decisions impact where the team is at in 2025?....They just won the NBA title, They have the league MVP on a long contract through his prime years, They have a roster full of young players who can grow and get better still, They have Topic/Sorber coming into the team both who look promising....And have a treasure chest of draft picks in their box to play with (Trades or draft)
You can say they did this wrong or do that wrong and also say "Not a great strategy" all you want until you realize the strategy worked and won them a title and they have a potential dynasty...
Also all the people saying this won't last....It will because OKC will keep the big 3 in tact and they have lots of options to build around that big 3 who already proved to be a championship level core when they are still babies in the NBA and are not close to their peaks....
But ok whatever you say man lol...A realgmer armchair GM such as yourself knows better than a guy whos been doing this since 2007 in the NBA ....But we will pretend you know what your talking about...
People already know that OKC will be fine for the next season or two. The problems come when SGA's supermax kicks in for the 27/28 season.
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OakleyDokely wrote:Clutch0z24 wrote:HumbleRen wrote:
He’s drafted 3 MVP’s. Built 2 finals teams from the ground up from arguably the smallest market in the league.
I know you spent 90% of the 2020’s trying to downplay Sam Presti but he’s one of the best GM’s of all time. You don’t have to continue this agenda lol.
Yep and during Masai run he had not built a championship team from the ground up....He took what BC built and made it better....No discrediting Masai but if you are going to try and discredit Presti....You have to look in the mirror as well....
Presti & Masai are both elite GMs though which is why they have a good rep....We don't have Masai no more so who knows if we will even have a competent front office in the future....
Every GMs make mistakes but its obvious this OKC team is not going anywhere anytime soon....And Shai a beloved Canadian is leading them to the promise land for a while imo....Shai will be the face of the league i think and the next coming of Kobe level player (Prolly even better in terms of stats)....
Presti built a title team that looks to at least have alot more runs in them as for us who built a title team that lasted 1 season....You sound like a blatant jealous hater if you discredit him when he took a team that has no business to even being in the title picture to multiple finals and has a title with a long stretch to add more titles....
The only player from BC's core on the title team was Lowry. Every other player was a Masai acquisition.
Masai also used all of BCs core to trade for majority of the championship team he had....Used DeMar to get Kawhi, Used JV to get Gasol, Almost traded Lowry to the Knicks....Point is Masai also didn't have a perfect track record....But a good one....Same arguments that people discredit Presti for can be used for our champioship 1 year run as well.....Got Kawhi in a very unusually lucky deal that will never happen again in history....Because no one would trade a healthy Kawhi who didn't demand out for DeMar/Yak....It took a very unusual circumstance for us to get that deal done...
Masai sat on BCs top players in Lowry/DD for years until that deal fell into his lap....Not hating on Masai here but just pointing out the over hate for Presti some posters have could also be said about Masai run here and how we won the title.

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Clutch0z24 wrote:OakleyDokely wrote:Clutch0z24 wrote:
Yep and during Masai run he had not built a championship team from the ground up....He took what BC built and made it better....No discrediting Masai but if you are going to try and discredit Presti....You have to look in the mirror as well....
Presti & Masai are both elite GMs though which is why they have a good rep....We don't have Masai no more so who knows if we will even have a competent front office in the future....
Every GMs make mistakes but its obvious this OKC team is not going anywhere anytime soon....And Shai a beloved Canadian is leading them to the promise land for a while imo....Shai will be the face of the league i think and the next coming of Kobe level player (Prolly even better in terms of stats)....
Presti built a title team that looks to at least have alot more runs in them as for us who built a title team that lasted 1 season....You sound like a blatant jealous hater if you discredit him when he took a team that has no business to even being in the title picture to multiple finals and has a title with a long stretch to add more titles....
The only player from BC's core on the title team was Lowry. Every other player was a Masai acquisition.
Masai also used all of BCs core to trade for majority of the championship team he had....Used DeMar to get Kawhi, Used JV to get Gasol, Almost traded Lowry to the Knicks....Point is Masai also didn't have a perfect track record....But a good one....Same arguments that people discredit Presti for can be used for our champioship 1 year run as well.....Got Kawhi in a very unusually lucky deal that will never happen again in history....Because no one would trade a healthy Kawhi who didn't demand out for DeMar/Yak....It took a very unusual circumstance for us to get that deal done...
Masai sat on BCs top players in Lowry/DD for years until that deal fell into his lap....Not hating on Masai here but just pointing out the over hate for Presti some posters have could also be said about Masai run here and how we won the title.
To me, that's a lot more impressive than drafting top players with top 3 picks.
That being said, both Masai and Presti have been top 5 execs over the last decade and a half.
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OakleyDokely wrote:Clutch0z24 wrote:Los_29 wrote:
OKC traded Rubio and the draft rights to IQ and McDaniels for Poku and a 2nd rounder. Ouch. He didn’t draft IQ and McDaniels. He drafted Poku. So yes, he had a pick and fumbled it badly.
The fact it’s hit and miss is exactly why it’s not a great strategy. He doesn’t have a great draft record in that range. Not sure many that do. It’s very hard to pick in that range and find gems year in and year out. We just got spoiled with Masai’s drafting that we think it’s normal.
lol sorry but I had to laugh at the George trade was a masterclass comment.Any RealGm’er could’ve made that trade. Presti didn’t even initiate it. Kawhi signing with the Clippers and foolishly choosing George as his sidekick is what initiated it. Presti did literally nothing.
He got nothing for Harden. He also lost KD for nothing. OKC traded Kanter and a 2nd rounder for Melo and then shipped him off a year or two later for Schroeder. Lateral moves at best there.
How does any of the hate you throw on past decisions impact where the team is at in 2025?....They just won the NBA title, They have the league MVP on a long contract through his prime years, They have a roster full of young players who can grow and get better still, They have Topic/Sorber coming into the team both who look promising....And have a treasure chest of draft picks in their box to play with (Trades or draft)
You can say they did this wrong or do that wrong and also say "Not a great strategy" all you want until you realize the strategy worked and won them a title and they have a potential dynasty...
Also all the people saying this won't last....It will because OKC will keep the big 3 in tact and they have lots of options to build around that big 3 who already proved to be a championship level core when they are still babies in the NBA and are not close to their peaks....
But ok whatever you say man lol...A realgmer armchair GM such as yourself knows better than a guy whos been doing this since 2007 in the NBA ....But we will pretend you know what your talking about...
People already know that OKC will be fine for the next season or two. The problems come when SGA's supermax kicks in for the 27/28 season.
If you actually took the time and read the article he also posted in long form you would see that Presti has prepared for well beyond the 27/28 season.....He planned till 2030.....Yeah tough decisions will have to be made on the role players but they set them selves up with team option deals to move money around very easy if need be and also the TV deal will increase the Cap as the years go on so that will also help them out...
They also have young talent on small contracts, And since they are in the championship hunt they can recruit MLE type vets....They will keep the big 3 and basically use their load of draft picks to fill out the roster or make trades like they did with Giddey...Moving a young player who wants a big contract for a realiable Vet like Caruso to help alot....
They have lots of ways to build around the big 3.... even if they are on big contracts....That is what the article is talking about if you read it...

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Clutch0z24 wrote:OakleyDokely wrote:Clutch0z24 wrote:
How does any of the hate you throw on past decisions impact where the team is at in 2025?....They just won the NBA title, They have the league MVP on a long contract through his prime years, They have a roster full of young players who can grow and get better still, They have Topic/Sorber coming into the team both who look promising....And have a treasure chest of draft picks in their box to play with (Trades or draft)
You can say they did this wrong or do that wrong and also say "Not a great strategy" all you want until you realize the strategy worked and won them a title and they have a potential dynasty...
Also all the people saying this won't last....It will because OKC will keep the big 3 in tact and they have lots of options to build around that big 3 who already proved to be a championship level core when they are still babies in the NBA and are not close to their peaks....
But ok whatever you say man lol...A realgmer armchair GM such as yourself knows better than a guy whos been doing this since 2007 in the NBA ....But we will pretend you know what your talking about...
People already know that OKC will be fine for the next season or two. The problems come when SGA's supermax kicks in for the 27/28 season.
If you actually took the time and read the article he also posted in long form you would see that Presti has prepared for well beyond the 27/28 season.....He planned till 2030.....Yeah tough decisions will have to be made on the role players but they set them selves up with team option deals to move money around very easy if need be and also the TV deal will increase the Cap as the years go on so that will also help them out...
They also have young talent on small contracts, And since they are in the championship hunt they can recruit MLE type vets....They will keep the big 3 and basically use their load of draft picks to fill out the roster or make trades like they did with Giddey...Moving a young player who wants a big contract for a realiable Vet like Caruso to help alot....
They have lots of ways to build around the big 3.... even if they are on big contracts....That is what the article is talking about if you read it...
I read it, and I will still be shocked if all 3 are together long term.
That plans requires on hitting on cheap FA signings and nailing your draft picks while developing them quick enough to fill roster positions 4-10 which is far from a guarantee, especially from where OKC will be picking most years. As great as those 3 are, you still need quality depth to last an 82 game regular season and 4 rounds of the playoffs -- and they had that quality depth this season because everyone on that roster is still cheap beyond SGA.
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OakleyDokely wrote:Clutch0z24 wrote:OakleyDokely wrote:
People already know that OKC will be fine for the next season or two. The problems come when SGA's supermax kicks in for the 27/28 season.
If you actually took the time and read the article he also posted in long form you would see that Presti has prepared for well beyond the 27/28 season.....He planned till 2030.....Yeah tough decisions will have to be made on the role players but they set them selves up with team option deals to move money around very easy if need be and also the TV deal will increase the Cap as the years go on so that will also help them out...
They also have young talent on small contracts, And since they are in the championship hunt they can recruit MLE type vets....They will keep the big 3 and basically use their load of draft picks to fill out the roster or make trades like they did with Giddey...Moving a young player who wants a big contract for a realiable Vet like Caruso to help alot....
They have lots of ways to build around the big 3.... even if they are on big contracts....That is what the article is talking about if you read it...
I read it, and I will still be shocked if all 3 are together long term.
That plans requires on hitting on cheap FA signings and nailing your draft picks while developing them quick enough to fill roster positions 4-10 which is far from a guarantee, especially from where OKC will be picking most years. As great as those 3 are, you still need quality depth to last an 82 game regular season and 4 rounds of the playoffs -- and they had that quality depth this season because everyone on that roster is still cheap beyond SGA.
I would trust Presti over realgmers no offense....They also have OTHER teams first round/2nd round picks not just their own which when your as good as OKC is thats a big benefit....Just like how they drafted 15 this past year and almost had a top 7 pick if 76ers fell out of the top 5....because they had other teams picks not their own...
You are also missing the fact they can use the young players or draft picks for trades...
Sure they won't add another all star level player beside these 3 all stars they already have....But they can deff find role players who can help them win via trades/draft....
Raptors filled their bench in 1 draft with 2nd round picks

Its really not hard to see it....Only way Shai/Chet/Williams get split up is injuries or they flame out from here on out and can't win again....Which i don't see being the case...
