Chris Bosh moved out of his park lawn condo

[Robidua]

Wrong Info, my apologies

[rafer madness]

can you elaborate a bit

[Sifu]

can you elaborate a bit

He got his posse to pack his stuff into boxes, and used AMJ to move it to his new crib. All of this happened to the Jefferson's theme song "moving on up... to the east side..."

[mikero]

He's getting a max contract. Maybe he justs wants a nicer crib

[mtamasi]

He's getting a max contract. Maybe he justs wants a nicer crib

or maybe he's planning on leaving the city for good .......

just kidding, but cue the bipolar guesses

[torontosfynest]

on your first ever post you have some big news..Interesting.

[NH]

Well considering ACC is already tearing down his posters, and Bosh jerseys are on sale everywhere in the city, not surprised he is moving out... who cares.. I rather not pay $133 million to Bosh anyways.. lets get some nice assets and hopefully have another franchise player come out.

[evilRyu]

on your first ever post you have some big news..Interesting.

[Bo0bo0]

New haircut. New crib. New team!??? hmm..

[darth_federer]

Well considering ACC is already tearing down his posters, and Bosh jerseys are on sale everywhere in the city, not surprised he is moving out... who cares.. I rather not pay $133 million to Bosh anyways.. lets get some nice assets and hopefully have another franchise player come out.

Ive yet to see a scenario where paying Bosh the max would cripple this team. If teams like Miami (Pat Riley), NY (Donnie Walsh) and Daryl Morey are willing to pay Bosh the max, I see no reason why the Raptors shouldnt.

[Funky D]

If I was Bosh and I saw where this team is headed with or without me - I'd be leaving too. He already wasted 7 years and we're still awful.

[Lawnmower Man]

Well considering ACC is already tearing down his posters, and Bosh jerseys are on sale everywhere in the city, not surprised he is moving out... who cares.. I rather not pay $133 million to Bosh anyways.. lets get some nice assets and hopefully have another franchise player come out.

Ive yet to see a scenario where paying Bosh the max would cripple this team. If teams like Miami (Pat Riley), NY (Donnie Walsh) and Daryl Morey are willing to pay Bosh the max, I see no reason why the Raptors shouldnt.

Darth, you have to understand that Torontonians (for some reason) are the cheapest and most hating fans ever.

They want quality players, but they refuse to pay for them. They have a good player in Bosh, yet they seem to think that paying him the max will cripple this team. They also keep referring to this "flexibility" that we lose if we sign Bosh. Most people can't even elaborate on what "flexibility" you lose when you sign arguably the top PF in the game to a long-term max contract. Whether you pay him $9 million or $18 million per season, this team is over the cap. MLSE has shown a committment to paying over the luxury, so I don't really understand it when people are opposed to it, especially when 29 other teams would be willing to take him for max money (or trade for him if we really want to get rid of him at a later date).

Torontonians keep pointing to the small handful of elite players in the league as those who deserve max money over Bosh, but they ignore the players below Bosh who make well more than they should. Yet, whenever there is a low talent, high effort energy player on the roster (JYD, Bonner, etc) everybody wants to lock them up long term. I'll never forget the flack that Babcock got in the media when he opted NOT to sign Bonner to a long term contract, and signed him for a two year $4 mill deal. Best move during his tenure, but a typical reaction from Toronto made me shaking my head.

[whoknows]

Well considering ACC is already tearing down his posters, and Bosh jerseys are on sale everywhere in the city, not surprised he is moving out... who cares.. I rather not pay $133 million to Bosh anyways.. lets get some nice assets and hopefully have another franchise player come out.

Ive yet to see a scenario where paying Bosh the max would cripple this team. If teams like Miami (Pat Riley), NY (Donnie Walsh) and Daryl Morey are willing to pay Bosh the max, I see no reason why the Raptors shouldnt.

To you know the reason ask yourself how T. compares to Miami or NY for:
1) attracting top players
2) spending way over cap
3) NBA market exposure

[canguy20m]

They want quality players, but they refuse to pay for them. They have a good player in Bosh, yet they seem to think that paying him the max will cripple this team. They also keep referring to this "flexibility" that we lose if we sign Bosh. Most people can't even elaborate on what "flexibility" you lose when you sign arguably the top PF in the game to a long-term max contract. Whether you pay him $9 million or $18 million per season, this team is over the cap. MLSE has shown a committment to paying over the luxury, so I don't really understand it when people are opposed to it, especially when 29 other teams would be willing to take him for max money (or trade for him if we really want to get rid of him at a later date).

if the top pf in the game can't get an above average team to the playoffs in the east then he either isn't the top pf or top pf's can't be franchise players. the last 3 seasons have been mediocre, none of those teams deserved to be in the playoffs.
Bosh needs to elevate his game and Colangelo needs to trade for a shooter like k.martin, s.jackson and a rebounding center. if Bosh appreciated his position on the team maybe fans wouldn't be so quick to criticize his impact on the game.

[Realist]

I'll pack his boxes for him.

[dagger]

Well considering ACC is already tearing down his posters, and Bosh jerseys are on sale everywhere in the city, not surprised he is moving out... who cares.. I rather not pay $133 million to Bosh anyways.. lets get some nice assets and hopefully have another franchise player come out.

Ive yet to see a scenario where paying Bosh the max would cripple this team. If teams like Miami (Pat Riley), NY (Donnie Walsh) and Daryl Morey are willing to pay Bosh the max, I see no reason why the Raptors shouldnt.

Darth, you have to understand that Torontonians (for some reason) are the cheapest and most hating fans ever.

They want quality players, but they refuse to pay for them. They have a good player in Bosh, yet they seem to think that paying him the max will cripple this team. They also keep referring to this "flexibility" that we lose if we sign Bosh. Most people can't even elaborate on what "flexibility" you lose when you sign arguably the top PF in the game to a long-term max contract. Whether you pay him $9 million or $18 million per season, this team is over the cap. MLSE has shown a committment to paying over the luxury, so I don't really understand it when people are opposed to it, especially when 29 other teams would be willing to take him for max money (or trade for him if we really want to get rid of him at a later date).

Torontonians keep pointing to the small handful of elite players in the league as those who deserve max money over Bosh, but they ignore the players below Bosh who make well more than they should. Yet, whenever there is a low talent, high effort energy player on the roster (JYD, Bonner, etc) everybody wants to lock them up long term. I'll never forget the flack that Babcock got in the media when he opted NOT to sign Bonner to a long term contract, and signed him for a two year $4 mill deal. Best move during his tenure, but a typical reaction from Toronto made me shaking my head.

You are way over-stating things. I am for re-signing Bosh to the max. I believe a lot of fans and media feel the same. Some don't, either because they believe the money can be better distributed throughout the roster or because they are worried that when he hits the last few years of that contract, his body will wear down and his effectiveness will wane, leaving us crippled, so to speak.

I think you should consider that:

1) MLSE may be willing to pay tax, but that is not a limitless commitment. A few million, maybe, but building a contender with Bosh might require going deep into tax with uncertain results. And if the next CBA brings in a concept like the SuperTax - $2 of tax for every $1 over the tax threshold, it will be completely unsustainable.

2) Paying tax doesn't guarantee good results. I have seen few tax-paying teams move from the lottery to contending status. Usually, the opposite happens. Generally, teams become major tax payers when they already have a pretty good playoff-caliber base. Sometimes, like the Lakers or Celtics, it's a necessary leg up to a title. Sometimes, for teams like New Orleans or Washington last season, it fails miserably and forces a talent dump.

The Raptors never told Damon or Vince to demand trades. They never told Bosh to leave town. I believe the financial downside of losing Bosh is greater than the up-front cost of keeping him on a max contract, which is while I believe MLSE was serious about offering it to him.

But that assumed he really wanted to stay, and all the evidence is that he has wanted out since the all-star break, that he wants to find his personal best option. And for us, it will be a step back, but given the past two seasons, it's hard to make a claim that it's a huge step back. At most, it will be 10 fewer wins, compensated for with a significantly higher draft pick in 2011.

[Realm_G]

So bosh lived at the condos on Park Lawn, wont be mentioning which building exactly but he moved out earlier this week..

I saw him buy a plane ticket. So he's going somewhere. (This statement is false)

I call shenanigans.

[now and 4 life]

Cool story bro.

[FirstAid]

Maybe his lease was up and he doesn't like the landlord.
=D

[Lawnmower Man]

I think you should consider that:

1) MLSE may be willing to pay tax, but that is not a limitless commitment. A few million, maybe, but building a contender with Bosh might require going deep into tax with uncertain results. And if the next CBA brings in a concept like the SuperTax - $2 of tax for every $1 over the tax threshold, it will be completely unsustainable.

2) Paying tax doesn't guarantee good results. I have seen few tax-paying teams move from the lottery to contending status. Usually, the opposite happens. Generally, teams become major tax payers when they already have a pretty good playoff-caliber base. Sometimes, like the Lakers or Celtics, it's a necessary leg up to a title. Sometimes, for teams like New Orleans or Washington last season, it fails miserably and forces a talent dump.

The Raptors never told Damon or Vince to demand trades. They never told Bosh to leave town. I believe the financial downside of losing Bosh is greater than the up-front cost of keeping him on a max contract, which is while I believe MLSE was serious about offering it to him.

But that assumed he really wanted to stay, and all the evidence is that he has wanted out since the all-star break, that he wants to find his personal best option. And for us, it will be a step back, but given the past two seasons, it's hard to make a claim that it's a huge step back. At most, it will be 10 fewer wins, compensated for with a significantly higher draft pick in 2011.

1. Building a contender with Bosh may cost a lot, sure, but in any case, you can easily trade him later as the demand for Bosh is pretty high. Toronto has been building around him the wrong way, and who knows, maybe BC's trial and error offseason trade frenzy could net us a couple of pieces that could throw us near the top. Boston held onto Pierce for so long for nothing, then won the title the following year. I'm not saying it would happen to us, I'm just saying that we should do the opposite of what we did with Vince and not lose our franchise player for nothing and bid him a "good riddance" because we feel he deserves less. Players don't want to sign in Toronto not because we're in Canada, rather because we are perrenial losers. Being consistently competitive has its benefits as displayed when Kevin Durant said his favorite team growing up was the Raptors (from our Vince/Tmac days).

2. Absolutely. But, I’m not condoning our GM to throw major money at marginal talent to make us slightly better (if at all). New Orleans make some very stupid moves throwing crazy money at guys like Peja, MoPete, and Posey, in addition to trading for contracts like Okafor’s.
I am up for making smart moves and paying the tax for quality players. Bosh is one of those. You will build a good rep in the league too as a team that is committed to winning. Look at Dallas. They used to be a laughing stock 10 years ago with nobody wanting to ever go there. Now you have many players considering them every year. Sure, Dallas had their problems and missed out on a Championship, but you know that they will always push to be competitive long after Dirk Nowitzki is done.
As for whether or not this will be a huge step back or not, it’s hard to tell. I think if we decide to do the Twolves style rebuild, it may not pan out as a result of contracts like Turk, Jose and Bargs on our roster. The last thing I want this team to be is a Pacers style squad where you simply float between awful and borderline playoff team with marginal young talent.