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100 Pages :O Wow....

Calderon for Granger.

http://raptorsrepublic.com/2010/08/07/c ... kes-sense/

possible ?

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachi ... Id=27jz6lh

Toronto's Line-Up

Hibbert/Andersen/Alabi
Johnson/Hansborough/Davis/Jones
Granger/Kleiza
DeRozan/Barbosa/Weems
Miller/Jack/Banks

Indiana

Pryzbilla/C.Jones/Stiemsma
Bargnani/Murphy/McRoberts
Dunleavy/George
Rush/Sephenson/S.Jones
Calderon/Flynn/Price

Portland

Oden/Foster/Dorsey
Aldridge/Camby/Cunningham
Batum/Babbitt/Pendergraph
Roy/Fernandez/Johnson
Ford/Bayless/Williams/Matthews

Minnesota

Milicic/Koufos/Pekovic/Toliver
Love/Beasley/Evans
Webster/Johnson/Hayward
Brewer/Belinelli
Ridnour/Telfair/Ellington

Again this is the trade to make !

To Toronto
Marcin Gortat
Dahntay Jones

To Indiana
Jose Calderon
Mikhael Pietrus

To Orlando
Troy Murphy

Everybody wins, Everybody!

ash_k wrote:Again this is the trade to make !

To Toronto
Marcin Gortat
Dahntay Jones

To Indiana
Jose Calderon
Mikhael Pietrus

To Orlando
Troy Murphy

Everybody wins, Everybody!

Except us...
Bigger contract with a C, who can't run and is overrated, because he plays behind the best C in the East. Gortat does NOT fit this team, going forward with the Young Gunz

raptorsfan07 wrote:Calderon for Granger.

http://raptorsrepublic.com/2010/08/07/c ... kes-sense/

possible ?

Possible? Maybe. But not with just for Calderon.
I see the point that Granger will be 28 where they could be starting from scratch with a younger team of Hibbert, Hansbrough, and George. But for Calderon. I doubt it. Possibly if TO included Davis, and a pick I could see it. Or maybe DeRozen for their young core. But I do not see Calderon doing it.

Quite frankly, if they were going to move Granger, I would move him to NOH for Collison, Wright, filler. That is a better package than just Calderon.

seraphim1982 wrote:

ash_k wrote:Again this is the trade to make !

To Toronto
Marcin Gortat
Dahntay Jones

To Indiana
Jose Calderon
Mikhael Pietrus

To Orlando
Troy Murphy

Everybody wins, Everybody!

Except us...
Bigger contract with a C, who can't run and is overrated, because he plays behind the best C in the East. Gortat does NOT fit this team, going forward with the Young Gunz

Extremely athletic Center, that runs the floor real well who averages 9rbs in 28 minutes, block shots, with a good touch and born in 84.
Would allow Bargs move to 4.
Still thinks Gortat does NOT fit??

P.S.Dahntay is just for salary cap purposes. (doesnt fit in Indiana, can be traded later as he was the defensive stopper for a highly competitive Denver team 2 years ago)

Now that Beaubois will be out for 3+ months with a broken foot, do you think the Mavs will be willing to do this trade?

To Dallas:
Jose Calderon
David Andersen
Dwayne Jones
Miami 1st round pick

To Toronto:
Tyson Chandler

Dallas is running out of time and need to surround Dirk with the right players to make a run for the title. Even if they have to overpay. They can't afford to wait for Beaubois to heal or they might find themselves in a hole early on.
Mavs can waive one of Andersen or Jones, depending on who they like better.

Toronto gets the center they wanted and clear some roster spots. Most of all they get rid of Calderon's contract while really only giving up a draft pick.
Raps can then find a home for Reggie Evans or waive him, sign Bobby Brown and Ronald Dupree and the roster is set.

C- Chandler/A.Johnson/Alabi
PF- Bargnani/E.Davis/Dorsey
SF- Kleiza/Weems/Dupree
SG- Derozan/Barbosa/Belinelli
PG- Jack/B.Brown/Banks

ash_k wrote:

seraphim1982 wrote:

ash_k wrote:Again this is the trade to make !

To Toronto
Marcin Gortat
Dahntay Jones

To Indiana
Jose Calderon
Mikhael Pietrus

To Orlando
Troy Murphy

Everybody wins, Everybody!

Except us...
Bigger contract with a C, who can't run and is overrated, because he plays behind the best C in the East. Gortat does NOT fit this team, going forward with the Young Gunz

Extremely athletic Center, that runs the floor real well who averages 9rbs in 28 minutes, block shots, with a good touch and born in 84.
Would allow Bargs move to 4.
Still thinks Gortat does NOT fit??

P.S.Dahntay is just for salary cap purposes. (doesnt fit in Indiana, can be traded later as he was the defensive stopper for a highly competitive Denver team 2 years ago)

Extremly athletic? seriously?

Extremly athletic? seriously?

Do more "Youtube" Scouting.
The Magic brass has often said that he's more athletic than D12/Superman himself . (They get to see him practice everyday)

Toronto Gets Gortat
Trades Jack and Beli
Indy Gets Jack Beli Bass
Trades Murphy
Orl Gets Murphy
Trades Bass and Gortat

We get legitimate C who can be at least top 15 in NBA if not top 10
Orlando gets legitimate PF lets Lewis play SF plus Orl doesn't like Bass
Indiana get decent PG and Beli who is redundant. Bass can always be traded to Dallas who likes him

To Golden State: Rip Hamilton

To Detroit: Jose Calderon/ 9 Million TPE (separate deal)

To Toronto: Andris Biedrins/ Tayshaun Prince (seperate deal)

parks3981 wrote:To Golden State: Rip Hamilton

To Detroit: Jose Calderon/ 9 Million TPE (separate deal)

To Toronto: Andris Biedrins/ Tayshaun Prince (seperate deal)

You wish. Where's Rip going to play in GS? Center?

Your homer side is showing.

To Toronto: Monroe + Hamilton + Chris Wilcox
To Detroit: Jose + Ed Davis + Miami pick + Dorsey

Detroit saves money on this deal immediately and long term by exchanging Calderons 3 year contract (and fills a position of need) for Hamiltons 3 year deal, along with taking Wilcox for a year. In return, we make a swap for lottery picks this year and give them the Heat pick. Dorsey is there so we don't have too many extra bodies and can be waived by Detriot. I think in total we take on 5-6 mill extra salary, so we are still under the tax.

ash_k wrote:

seraphim1982 wrote:

ash_k wrote:Again this is the trade to make !

To Toronto
Marcin Gortat
Dahntay Jones

To Indiana
Jose Calderon
Mikhael Pietrus

To Orlando
Troy Murphy

Everybody wins, Everybody!

Except us...
Bigger contract with a C, who can't run and is overrated, because he plays behind the best C in the East. Gortat does NOT fit this team, going forward with the Young Gunz

Extremely athletic Center, that runs the floor real well who averages 9rbs in 28 minutes, block shots, with a good touch and born in 84.
Would allow Bargs move to 4.
Still thinks Gortat does NOT fit??

P.S.Dahntay is just for salary cap purposes. (doesnt fit in Indiana, can be traded later as he was the defensive stopper for a highly competitive Denver team 2 years ago)

Still agree with seraphim who appears to be born in 82.

Cha/Tor
Not that BC is dying to deal with them again, but here is a deal where TO does not take back any salary (really):
Cha trade Dampier (waived) for Jose, Joey Dorsey (cut), D Jones (cut).

Works in the 125% rule (need to wait until Sept 14 for D Jones 60 days to expire).

Cha gets a PG, should get under the luxury tax
Tor gets out of Jose deal, clears cap space and a few roster spots.

Cha does take on long term salary, but MJ owes BC

To Toronto
Prince
Maxiell
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Wilcox-(seperate deal)

To Detroit
Calderon
Maxiell
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Andersen-(seperate deal)

Detroit
Big Ben/Andersen
Monroe/Villanueva
Jerebko/ Daye
Gordon/Hamilton
Stuckey/Calderon

Toronto
Bargnani/Amir/Alabi
Ed Davis/Maxiell
Prince/Kleiza/Wright
Derozan/Weems
Jack/Barbosa/Brown

2 seperate deals to make this work

1)To Charlotte: Calderon

To Toronto: Mohammed & Augustin

2) To Charlotte: Evans

To Toronto: Carroll

Jack/Augustin/Banks
Derozan/Barbosa/Weems/Carroll
Kleiza/Wright
Bargs/Johnson/Davis
Mohammed/Andersen/Alabi

Get an expiring contract in Nazr and move bargs to PF and get a young back up PG.

To tor. Diaw & Augustin

To cha. Calderon & Evans

Calderon would have to waive 500000 of his tk

Maybe throw in a Banks for Caroll swap in a separate deal

Jack / Augustin / Brown
Derozan / Barbosa
Klezia / Weems / Wright
Diaw / Davis / Andersen
Bargnani / Johnson / Alabi

Decent team