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Colangelo on the fan 

Post#1 » by highness » Wed Jan 11, 2012 3:51 pm

http://www.fan590.com/media.jsp?content=20120111_084712_9608

-One interesting tidbit from that interview is that BC seems to want DD to be more consistent with being in the weightroom.
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Post#2 » by Fairview4Life » Wed Jan 11, 2012 3:53 pm

Would probably help him defensively. The few times he had to guard Lewis last night that I paid attention to weren't pretty.
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Post#3 » by theonlyeastcoastrapsfan » Wed Jan 11, 2012 3:57 pm

he looks a lot smaller in build than other on the court.
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Post#4 » by bigdirty » Wed Jan 11, 2012 4:12 pm

Half the Raps look like they've never seriously lifted weights.
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Post#5 » by Rhettmatic » Wed Jan 11, 2012 4:13 pm

I typed out a transcription. I didn't bother with the first question because it was boring.

What is the biggest challenge for Dwane Casey? Keeping the players mentally or physically sharp? (Rhett note: what a pointless question)

Well, I think there's a couple things. We talked a lot about the plan. We talked about being patient this year, preserving our flexibility, but one of the things that's so important is developing these players and letting them take these steps forward so that we can continue to build and grow toward those future seasons where we really put the hammer down on the final steps of the plan. It's not about winning games every single night. It's about taking positive steps forward, and I know that's a fine line to dance on especially as a coach trying to motivate your troops, and I would never tell a coach to lay down to make sure our draft pick is right.

We're going to go out there and try to do the best thing possible to advance this basketball team. Trying to stay focused and try to instill the culture change and layers of defensive sets and improving our offence. It's taking steps forward and positive steps toward that end goal. Again, it' a fine line, because you want to win, you want to keep your fans interested, you want to keep your players interested, heck, I want to keep the staff interested and make sure we're all looking at the same goal in the end, but Dwane and the staff have been doing an outstanding job. I believe the effort has been there in every single practice and in games with very few exceptions. You're going to have games like last night where things just don't go right, and we were facing a desperate team who were well-rested.

Long-winded question about resting starters in the 4th vs. Washington:

You know, Andrea — and by the way, Dwane has just done an outstanding job, he's even got Andrea playing defence here. He's been more focused. He didn't rebound the ball well last night but he's been playing at an all-star level without doubt. But for him to play 45-46 minutes the night prior, going into Washington, he wanted to get the win on Monday night which was the right thing to do. We got to DC and we're playing a desperate team, the fourth quarter was obviously out of reach so it was the right thing to do and it gives us the chance to evaluate and look at some of these other players. You've gotta find balance in a schedule like this and it's going to be one of those juggling acts all year long.

What's it going to take for DeMar DeRozan to buy into what Casey's selling?

I think the two most consistent players have been Andrea and Jose. We've seen great performances out of DeMar and even Ed Davis early, but you know, you want to make sure that these young guys, they're only 22 years old now. One is 21, one's 22. You've gotta get some level of consistency, in terms of the effort. That's the thing that typically drives the cosnistent performance, so we've gotta get them fofcused in, we've gotta make sure the effort's there night in, night out. You can't let a couple calls going against you get you off track. Or you can't let an inconsistent effort out there get you off track. So that's one of the things that I'm sure Dwane and the staff are focused on. You want to make sure these guys are taking positive steps forward every time they step on the floor. Again with youth, we've got a very young team, the core of our team, the guys who are playing the bulk of the minutes, are one of the youngest cores in the league. You're going to have inconsistent performances like that. You couple that with the tough schedule, that's one of the things that's a focal point right now for the discussions going on in the coaches' office. But DeMar clearly has the talent. He's got the skills to play both ends of the floor. And when he gets tuned in, he's going to be very solid.

Isn't being able to battle through the schedule the true test of the NBA?

Yeah. You look at a guy like DeMar, and the pure God-given talent and athleticism, and you say: OK, what is he doing to make sure he's getting everything out of his capabilities and his talent? You know, we've even talked to him about being consistent in the weight room night in and night out, because that time you spend in the weight room converts to energy on the court. It seems it makes you more fatigued and tired, but you know how it is, you're working out, you feel good about yourself, you have more energy, you eat better, you're burning calories, etc. The bottom line is though, he's a young kid, he's gotta learn better work habits. And again, I'm not saying he doesn't work hard, because he really does put the time in. But it's about being efficient, it's about being more focused, and again, it's great to have a guy like Alex McKechnie coming in from the Lakers. He can talk about watching the evolution of Kobe Bryant and talking about what Kobe has done to go from this level to obviously a very high level of performance. So those kinds of things are being discussed with DeMar. You look at these young guys, you gotta learn good work habits, you gotta learn how to be pros, and that's why we've brought in the Anthony Carters, the Jamal Magloires, we wanted them to have good, at least examples of what it takes to be a solid pro and look back on a 13-14 year career and say they accomplished something. Obviously with DeMar and Ed Davis, you're looking at guys with much more talent and a higher ceiling in terms of potential than the two that I mentioned, but at least they're there to establish some of these parameters.

What do you think of the Kings?

The bottom line is, they're going through a real tough situation right now. They're dealing with high talent, the talent that they've drafted was very high in the draft, and they're not getting the return they want. DeMarcus is a great talent but the question is, how much is he controlling them or is the franchise controlling him? It's already cost a few coaches their jobs. But again, you can't deny the talent. The question is, and we all had this question going into that draft, is he a controllable entity if you will? And they've now added some character pieces, I think that Jimmer is a high-character kid, he's a talent, he's a scorer, they've got a lot of scorers on this team, they've got a lot of guys who dominate the ball. Tyreke is not a true point but he's a great talent and he can score the ball as you know. He can get to the basket pretty much any time he wants. So they're building it a little bit differently. Going through a coaching change right now, I don't know what style they'll play under Keith Smart. I know Westphal really well, and he was an offensive coach which was probably good for the talent they have. They're a team in transition and they've been in transition for many years. They're searching for a new arena, they're searching for a following in the market right now, it's been a tough run for them but you can't deny that they've got good young talent on that team.
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Post#6 » by whoknows » Wed Jan 11, 2012 4:15 pm

Thanks for the link!

He explains to you "tank lovers" why this team needs to move away from the loosing culture in order to develop young platers. It's about taking positive steps every night, not about winning every game. He would never tell his staff to loose games for a high draft pick (like some here suggest).
Only wining keeps the players interested on the game, he is even worried about his coaching staff loosing interest, if the team is not winning or making progress.

"Dwaine is doing an outstanding job, even got Andrea to play defence here..." :lol:

Raps need the young players focused, cannot get off track for a bad play from playing consistent - focal point for coaching team.
Young ones need to learn from veterans what it takes to become solid.

DD has the talent and athleticism - will be solid once he clicks. Needs to be more efficient and focused.
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Post#7 » by LittleOzzy » Wed Jan 11, 2012 4:18 pm

How the hell do you do that Rhett?

Wow!
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Post#8 » by Fairview4Life » Wed Jan 11, 2012 4:21 pm

whoknows wrote:Thanks for the link!

He explains to you "tank lovers" why this team needs to move away from the loosing culture in order to develop young platers. It's about taking positive steps every night, not about winning every game. He would never tell his staff to loose games for a high draft pick (like some here suggest).


Very, very few people have ever said that. In fact, BC's comments basically mirror what most of the pro tanking people have said, that I've read anyway.
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Post#9 » by Morris_Shatford » Wed Jan 11, 2012 4:22 pm

Thanks Rhett!

As per usual, you are the man!
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Post#10 » by whoknows » Wed Jan 11, 2012 4:30 pm

Fairview4Life wrote:
whoknows wrote:Thanks for the link!

He explains to you "tank lovers" why this team needs to move away from the loosing culture in order to develop young platers. It's about taking positive steps every night, not about winning every game. He would never tell his staff to loose games for a high draft pick (like some here suggest).


Very, very few people have ever said that. In fact, BC's comments basically mirror what most of the pro tanking people have said, that I've read anyway.


Might be me, but I still read many posts from people supporting the tanking and not happy when the Raps win - since it puts less balls in the lottery...
While I understand their view (since it is the only way for Raps to get talent), as BC said, it is a very fine line, you got to improve to keep team people in the right path/attitude.
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Post#11 » by J-Roc » Wed Jan 11, 2012 4:30 pm

Thank you Mr Rhett. BC better be careful, he ALMOST used DeMar and Kobe's name in the same sentence.
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Post#12 » by highness » Wed Jan 11, 2012 4:34 pm

J-Roc wrote:Thank you Mr Rhett. BC better be careful, he ALMOST used DeMar and Kobe's name in the same sentence.

He already did last year in his post season press conference where he compared DD's second year to Kobe's.
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Post#13 » by theonlyeastcoastrapsfan » Wed Jan 11, 2012 4:36 pm

let's write a book together Rhett. I'll get high, then ramble on, you type it out and then we'll see if we got something we can churn some butter with. should only take a few days.
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Post#14 » by Reignman » Wed Jan 11, 2012 4:37 pm

whoknows wrote:Thanks for the link!

He explains to you "tank lovers" why this team needs to move away from the loosing culture in order to develop young platers. It's about taking positive steps every night, not about winning every game. He would never tell his staff to loose games for a high draft pick (like some here suggest).
Only wining keeps the players interested on the game, he is even worried about his coaching staff loosing interest, if the team is not winning or making progress.

"Dwaine is doing an outstanding job, even got Andrea to play defence here..." :lol:

Raps need the young players focused, cannot get off track for a bad play from playing consistent - focal point for coaching team.
Young ones need to learn from veterans what it takes to become solid.

DD has the talent and athleticism - will be solid once he clicks. Needs to be more efficient and focused.


For this season at least, BC is the biggest "tank lover" of them all. I'd go as far as saying I've never heard any other GM in our history talk about "high picks" as much as BC has. Hell, he's made worse comments than Babcock since this summer, he's just a lot more savvy.

I love it because I have been clamouring for this type of rebuild for a long time.
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Post#15 » by theonlyeastcoastrapsfan » Wed Jan 11, 2012 4:38 pm

whoknows wrote:Thanks for the link!

He explains to you "tank lovers" why this team needs to move away from the loosing culture in order to develop young platers. It's about taking positive steps every night, not about winning every game. He would never tell his staff to loose games for a high draft pick (like some here suggest).
Only wining keeps the players interested on the game, he is even worried about his coaching staff loosing interest, if the team is not winning or making progress.

"Dwaine is doing an outstanding job, even got Andrea to play defence here..." :lol:

Raps need the young players focused, cannot get off track for a bad play from playing consistent - focal point for coaching team.
Young ones need to learn from veterans what it takes to become solid.

DD has the talent and athleticism - will be solid once he clicks. Needs to be more efficient and focused.


nice try. As JT would say, I liked the effort; wtf you gonna do......Rhet 1 Whoknows -21 (docked 20 for bringing knife to gunfight.
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Post#16 » by Rhettmatic » Wed Jan 11, 2012 4:42 pm

theonlyeastcoastrapsfan wrote:let's write a book together Rhett. I'll get high, then ramble on, you type it out and then we'll see if we got something we can churn some butter with. should only take a few days.


Share the weed wealth and I'm down. We'll call the ensuing manuscript "Word Paintings." You'll be the next L. Ron Hubbard, but without a criminal record. (I assume).

Oh, and thanks for the kind words, guys.
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Post#17 » by evenflow » Wed Jan 11, 2012 4:43 pm

Amazing Rhett! Thanks!
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Post#18 » by theonlyeastcoastrapsfan » Wed Jan 11, 2012 4:45 pm

Rhettmatic wrote:
theonlyeastcoastrapsfan wrote:let's write a book together Rhett. I'll get high, then ramble on, you type it out and then we'll see if we got something we can churn some butter with. should only take a few days.


Share the weed wealth and I'm down. We'll call the ensuing manuscript "Word Paintings." You'll be the next L. Ron Hubbard, but without a criminal record. (I assume).

Oh, and thanks for the kind words, guys.


Sounds good. I think I'll be in the Big Smoke in March. We just have to remember not to eat the butter....
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Post#19 » by Courtside » Wed Jan 11, 2012 4:54 pm

LittleOzzy wrote:How the hell do you do that Rhett?

Wow!

That's not all Rhett can do with a typewriter. Look at this maneuver:

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Post#20 » by djsunyc » Wed Jan 11, 2012 4:57 pm

that's rhett?

how YOU doing?

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