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Does anyone else think these guys have been disappointing? Especially considering the hype they received in the off season.

Way too many guys are suffering repeat injuries and coming back too early.

Our medical and training staff have been terrible from the line.

not an expert but i guess that a training/medical staff cant be judged solely on games played. Other things go into it and it might take a year or two for it to come to fruition.

http://www.nba.com/raptors/video/centre ... ory-part-7

Didn't one of them make the all-star team? lol

BC and his boys do this to themselves all the time. They hype up everything they do and everyone they hire and then when it blows up in their face they just sweep it under the rug.

Casey was the reason DAL won the title. Tyson is going to sign here because of him.

McKechnie was the reason LAL won so many titles. He is going to turn our guys into beasts.

Solomon Alabi was a huge steal on draft night and was the answer to our interior D and rebounding.

Best team on paper. Going to get great value for Bosh. Blah, blah, blah.

These guys should just shut up and stop embarrassing themselves.

Casey was raving about how hard Bargs was working during his injury and how he was hungry to come back so he wouldn't have to go through that kind of hellish workout. Now the excuse for his horrible play is his poor conditioning??

Back on topic...

I think some hard questions need to be asked about whether Bayless was initially misdiagnosed. He should not have been playing with a torn oblique. Combine this with the Bargnani re-injury and something does not smell right at all.

Scraptor wrote:Back on topic...

I think some hard questions need to be asked about whether Bayless was initially misdiagnosed. He should not have been playing with a torn oblique. Combine this with the Bargnani re-injury and something does not smell right at all.

Bargnani's re-injury smacked of over-use by Casey. And an injury like an oblique tear isn't going to show up unless you go do an MRI, and you wouldn't do an MRI until what is thought to be a hip pointer isn't healing right.

I love it when there's an injury and all the idiot savants on this board claim to know better than the medical staff.

It's also not unusual for players to try to play through injuries, especially if they aren't pussies.

And maybe he could play if he took another week off, but the fact is, at this time of year, modest injuries become life threatening problems when you tank commander is in charge.

Washington actually shut down Andrey Blatche for three weeks of further conditionning after he came back from four weeks out with a calf strain (same injury as Bargnani).

Brook Lopez has been out for five weeks with a "bad" ankle sprain.

New Orleans waited three weeks before deciding that Eric Gordon needed surgery. Whodathunkit?

And though I bet he could throw away his crutches like someone who has just visited Lourdes, don't look for Andrew Bogut to return this season because GSW needs to have at least the seventh worst record to keep their draft pick.

Tanking actually has a smell to it by the time you get to April.

It smells, well, fishy.

dagger wrote:

Scraptor wrote:Back on topic...

I think some hard questions need to be asked about whether Bayless was initially misdiagnosed. He should not have been playing with a torn oblique. Combine this with the Bargnani re-injury and something does not smell right at all.

Bargnani's re-injury smacked of over-use by Casey. And an injury like an oblique tear isn't going to show up unless you go do an MRI, and you wouldn't do an MRI until what is thought to be a hip pointer isn't healing right.

I love it when there's an injury and all the idiot savants on this board claim to know better than the medical staff.

It's also not unusual for players to try to play through injuries, especially if they aren't pussies.

And it's not unusual (Hi, Tom Jones!) to see players take their time coming back when the season no longer matters.

Eating a Book wrote:

dagger wrote:

Scraptor wrote:Back on topic...

I think some hard questions need to be asked about whether Bayless was initially misdiagnosed. He should not have been playing with a torn oblique. Combine this with the Bargnani re-injury and something does not smell right at all.

Bargnani's re-injury smacked of over-use by Casey. And an injury like an oblique tear isn't going to show up unless you go do an MRI, and you wouldn't do an MRI until what is thought to be a hip pointer isn't healing right.

I love it when there's an injury and all the idiot savants on this board claim to know better than the medical staff.

It's also not unusual for players to try to play through injuries, especially if they aren't pussies.

And it's not unusual (Hi, Tom Jones!) to see players take their time coming back when the season no longer matters.

See the additions to my post above.

dagger wrote:See the additions to my post above.

I'd offer a highfive but my arms aren't long enough.

Eating a Book wrote:

dagger wrote:See the additions to my post above.

I'd offer a highfive but my arms aren't long enough.

And don't think Bayless couldn't return in max two weeks if we were playoff bound.

I'll hold my judgment till we play a normal season.

dagger wrote:

Scraptor wrote:Back on topic...

I think some hard questions need to be asked about whether Bayless was initially misdiagnosed. He should not have been playing with a torn oblique. Combine this with the Bargnani re-injury and something does not smell right at all.

Bargnani's re-injury smacked of over-use by Casey. And an injury like an oblique tear isn't going to show up unless you go do an MRI, and you wouldn't do an MRI until what is thought to be a hip pointer isn't healing right.

I love it when there's an injury and all the idiot savants on this board claim to know better than the medical staff.

It's also not unusual for players to try to play through injuries, especially if they aren't pussies.

No need to be facetious.

Re-aggravating injuries is sometimes a sign of insufficient precautionary measures. Look at when Calderon re-injured his hip:
http://www.torontosun.com/sports/basket ... 6-sun.html

And Rudy Gay had an MRI earlier this year on a hip pointer, simply to confirm the diagnosis.
http://www.hoopsworld.com/grizzlies-f-g ... ip-pointer

And what exactly is the point of these guys playing through their injuries if we are tanking?

Scraptor wrote:Back on topic...

I think some hard questions need to be asked about whether Bayless was initially misdiagnosed. He should not have been playing with a torn oblique. Combine this with the Bargnani re-injury and something does not smell right at all.

I agree something is fishy. Hip pointer to partially torn oblique muscle? Wtf. And it's pretty much protocol in the nba for players to get imaging done to confirm whether they have a fracture, muscle strain/tear etc.

And a "bad" ankle sprain can take 5 weeks to recover from. Look at Stephen curry - he keeps re-spraining it b/c he came back too soon without proper/enough rehab and it's now become chronic. I think he's had to leave like 4 games because of the same ankle and now has to see a specialist.