What did Casey do so differently from Triano?

[sca]

2012 Bargs played 32% OF AVAILABLE MINUTEs
2011 Bargs played 59% of available minutes.

Less time with Bargs and Jose on the floor together = better defense ..its not rocket science.

There are many factors that have to with the D but this is absolutely one of them.

You're clueless. I don't even feel like arguing with you.

[Mister Ze]

Coach.

[dballislife]

triano offense good, defense horrid
casey defense good, offense bad

[koolguy]

most underrated aspect of his coaching is probably how well he prepares against specific teams and how he makes adjustments during timeouts.

also he knows how to play against western teams so we didnt get stumped by them as much as we did in the past

[trick]

triano offense good, defense horrid
casey defense good, offense bad

hmm, he observe game good.

[Omar CominYo]

Casey's rotations don't suck

[Big Shot]

Can't remember which player said that...... the players didn't have specific roles last season.

[wanker]

I thought this was obvious:

[dballislife]

only thing im disappointed with casey this year is that bayless, demar, JJ, ed, and amir to some extent all our young players who seem to have some talent all did not progress much under him...other than that, great year by casey

[Oakville_Raptor]

Was it accountability or knowledge of defense? Was it because he actually got the attention of players?

Did you even watch the Raptors this season?

[hankscorpioLA]

To say that its just about "accountability" or "defensive mindset" is a ridiculous oversimplification.

One of the biggest reasons why Dallas was able to beat Miami last year is because of Casey's defensive schemes - specifically the 2-3 matchup zone. In addition, Casey preaches a particular type of defense on every play that is rooted in fundamentals. I remember him talking about how almost all defenses in the NBA are based on forcing perimeter players away from the middle and towards the baseline. Casey's approach is to play more straight-up and focused on defensive fundamentals.

But ultimately, what makes a coach a success or a failure is their ability to get their players to buy into the system - whatever it is - night in and night out. And that is where Casey has exceeded beyond expectations - in the area of consistency of effort.

Forget about not taking whole games off - as Raptors teams have tended to do in the past - under Dwane Casey, the Raptors rarely ever seemed to take individual possessions off.

And that is something special.

[hankscorpioLA]

only thing im disappointed with casey this year is that bayless, demar, JJ, ed, and amir to some extent all our young players who seem to have some talent all did not progress much under him...other than that, great year by casey

I think its a big mistake to try and make any long-term assessments based on what we saw this year, since this year was a complete anomaly.

For example, shooting percentages are down all across the league. They were REALLY low at the start of the season and then picked up after the all-star game - but overall, shooting has been worse this year than in any recent year.

This makes sense - teams were struggling at the start because of the disruption of routine - but the struggles went on longer than you might expect because of a shortage of practice time. When you play every 3rd day, you are guaranteed one full day to practice (the other might be partly taken up by travel) - when you play every other day or more, you lose more than half your practices.

The effects of the lockout were felt more strongly in teams - like the Raptors - who brought in new coaches. The Raptors spend all of the shortened preseason and most of the first two months of the season focusing almost exclusively on defensive principles.

So if you really wanted to assess the progress of various players, you would need to control for the lower production overall across the league. But even then, you are likely to get some odd results because different players and different teams were in different situations.


I would suggest holding off on making any major assessments until next season - with a full offseason, a full training camp, and a regular schedule of practices, we should get a much clearer picture of how players are progressing.

[Too Late Crew]

2012 Bargs played 32% OF AVAILABLE MINUTEs
2011 Bargs played 59% of available minutes.

Less time with Bargs and Jose on the floor together = better defense ..its not rocket science.

There are many factors that have to with the D but this is absolutely one of them.

You're clueless. I don't even feel like arguing with you.

So you are saying that Bargs and Jose are actually a good defensive combination and that playing them together makes our defense better?

The numbers beg to differ
http://www.82games.com/1112/11TOR15.HTM#onoff
http://www.82games.com/1112/11TOR1.HTM#onoff

[roundhead0]

The most impressive thing about Casey is his apparent ability to get guys to fit in to what he's trying to do very quickly. The job he did with those 10-day players was actually amazing, and if the roster in many of those games wasn't so short the Raps might have been able to win or at least compete right to the end in a lot more games.

That tells me that he must be able to communicate what he's trying to do quite well, or else he keeps it simple/focused enough for anyone to be able to pick up quickly.

[Mack11]

Our D is much improved
O took a step back
He called excellent plays out of time outs something Triano was horrendous at
Got Bargs to play with effort when he was on the floor
substitutions were good.. minute management needs work tho

[C_Money]

Dwane Casey is actually an NBA level coach unlike Jay Triano who belongs in division III college.

[JAMES REED]

Triano was a bum that didn't have respect from his players, BC was just tanking with Triano .

[sca]

2012 Bargs played 32% OF AVAILABLE MINUTEs
2011 Bargs played 59% of available minutes.

Less time with Bargs and Jose on the floor together = better defense ..its not rocket science.

There are many factors that have to with the D but this is absolutely one of them.

You're clueless. I don't even feel like arguing with you.

So you are saying that Bargs and Jose are actually a good defensive combination and that playing them together makes our defense better?

The numbers beg to differ
http://www.82games.com/1112/11TOR15.HTM#onoff
http://www.82games.com/1112/11TOR1.HTM#onoff

I find the ORTGs & DRTGs on here to be much more realistic:
http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/TOR/2012.html

There's no way that our team's DRTG can be so low while all of our players have so high DRTGs. Look at DeRozan's and Ed's on 82games, for example.