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Re: This reffing is unbelievable.

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 5:14 am
by Peezy
^^^ Wow. just wow. hopefully this will be the beginning of some fairly called games for the raptors. we arnt down to much yet , our season can still be saved with a few wins this week.

thanks for these graphs. they really paints clear picture.

Re: This reffing is unbelievable.

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 6:35 am
by roundhead0
MEDIC wrote:Yup, they all know it. It's almost like it's the NBA's "dirty little secret". Players have made similar comments in the past when going from contender to a bottom feeder.

No idea why more organizations aren't more vocal about it. I guess if you're a bottom feeder trying to get a high draft pick, why would you complain. The more losses the better.

When you're a team actually trying to squeak into the playoffs, it actually becomes a big issue.


I think it's a cultural issue from the refs: you don't get the calls until you've "earned it". I mean, Bosh eventually had a pretty easy time getting calls with the Raps, but he had star status.

Re: This reffing is unbelievable.

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 9:34 am
by SkywalkerAC
I think a big factor coming out of the offseason was the directive to combat "flopping" and regain some of the physicality of yesteryear. The Raps came out on on the wrong side of that exchange but you can already see Demar adapting - ie not driving into the body of defenders to draw the foul. Yes, we got jobbed but I believe it was due to the refs attempting to implement the league office mandate from league office.

Re: This reffing is unbelievable.

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:07 pm
by Too Late Crew
[quote="Clutch Carter"]Raps complain to league, the trend gets reversed... hmmmmm...

I had a flat tire last week. After I got it fixed I spent many hours complaining about my flat tire. So what did was invent a very special flat tire preventer formula (I can't tell you all the ingredients for copyright reasons but Primo Pasta is one of them)

I painted the stuff on all my tires and guess what ? NO FLAT TIRES in over a week. The stuff really works!


As an added bonus it makes the tires smell like an Italian kitchen once they heat up.

Re: This reffing is unbelievable.

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 2:06 pm
by ItsDanger
Watching the Lakers game last night, the refs were brutal. Howard gets so many cheap calls.

Re: This reffing is unbelievable.

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 2:14 pm
by Jakinov
I haven't had a chance to watch the last few games, but I did see the 6 minute video from the first Indiana game and only really found one obvious bad no call where Valanciunas was hit with no call. I think if you filter out the calls/no-calls where the interpretation of the rule is wrong by fans on this board, then there really isn't a big discrepancy at all.

Many of Derozan's drives that I've heard the complaints about are him driving into players that are established and maintaining their verticality, which are good no-calls.

Re: This reffing is unbelievable.

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 2:18 pm
by Too Late Crew
ItsDanger wrote:Watching the Lakers game last night, the refs were brutal. Howard gets so many cheap calls.

Given that Howard is shooting 50% from the FT line I wonder who its really helping though..the Lakers or the opponents. :D

Re: This reffing is unbelievable.

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 4:10 pm
by dacrusha
ItsDanger wrote:Watching the Lakers game last night, the refs were brutal. Howard gets so many cheap calls.


Yeah, it's pretty cheap when he's got 2 guys slapping and hanging from his arms every time he makes a power move inside. How dare they make those calls.

Re: This reffing is unbelievable.

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 2:48 am
by Waylon Mercy
I've watched this team get screwed for 17 years...

I also watch League Pass for years now and have never seen a team get hosed more then the
Raptors year in and year out. If we didn't have pansies running this organization there should
be a lot of hoopla over it.

The NBA clearly has a Canadian bias and out of the 4 main sports has the worst reputation for
being a rigged league.

I know a lot of people who are disgusted with the NBA because of the officiating and have
stopped watching. I really hope the league starts incorporating more international refs.

Re: This reffing is unbelievable.

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 2:51 am
by goinrogue
Honest question, can the Raptors sue?

Re: This reffing is unbelievable.

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 2:51 am
by J-Roc
If the Raps really thought they were getting hosed, then Leo and Matt would actually speak with the refs after the game. Or a reporter would call the NBA office for a response to video evidence. But it's all for show.

Re: This reffing is unbelievable.

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 2:51 am
by C_Money
Somebody needs to step up and take the fine or this is just going to happen all season long.

Re: This reffing is unbelievable.

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 2:54 am
by RedX
I don't even get mad any more. That's life boys, we're gonna get **** forever. I, just happy I get to watch basketball and enjoy 3 quarters. I almost don't even care about the fourth.

First 6 games I was screaming at my tv. Now I get up calmly, walk upstairs and sleep in peace.

The refs hate us, the league hates us. Might as well accept it and not let it ruin your day.

Re: This reffing is unbelievable.

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 3:02 am
by G R E Y
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nvm not even worth the trouble getting upset anymore...

Re: This reffing is unbelievable.

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 3:09 am
by HiMyNameIsTrey
Triano needs to break some clipboards on our behalf

Re: This reffing is unbelievable.

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 3:19 am
by Thelonious
J-Roc wrote:If the Raps really thought they were getting hosed, then Leo and Matt would actually speak with the refs after the game. Or a reporter would call the NBA office for a response to video evidence. But it's all for show.

:pityfool:

Re: This reffing is unbelievable.

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 3:22 am
by theycallmeZZ
NBA Ref Stats ‏@NBARefStats

#Raptors visiting #Bobcats with Ed Malloy officiating. Toronto has lost their last 7 games officiated by Malloy. #NBA


Curious. This was tweeted before the game.

Re: This reffing is unbelievable.

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 3:23 am
by Back2back2back
ROBBS wrote:Triano needs to break some clipboards on our behalf


:lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: This reffing is unbelievable.

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 3:25 am
by Left Side Drive
We gotta pull off one of these

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Re: This reffing is unbelievable.

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 3:30 am
by onions17
RedX wrote:I don't even get mad any more. That's life boys, we're gonna get **** forever. I, just happy I get to watch basketball and enjoy 3 quarters. I almost don't even care about the fourth.

Lol. I wish I had your restraint