Bargnani: Raps are the worst team in the NBA

speedythief · Post #256 » by **speedythief** » Sat Dec 15, 2012 5:12 am

We sucked long before Bargnani, Junior. He's only been around for a minute, and he's only been a focal point of the team for a few seconds.

Berserk_Raptor · Post #257 » by **Berserk_Raptor** » Sat Dec 15, 2012 5:20 am

So now Bargs is blamed for everything-?? lol... so now i have to forget Jose's years of atrocious defence, no i have to forget that we havent had a true SF in a while, etc, etc...???

two5 · Post #258 » by **two5** » Sat Dec 15, 2012 5:22 am

speedythief wrote:We sucked long before Bargnani, Junior. He's only been around for a minute, and he's only been a focal point of the team for a few seconds.

7 years. He's been around 7 years.

I've watched this team play since I was 10 years old. We had a few awful years after Vince, but Bosh was very capable of getting us many playoff years.

If Bargnani was so talented and great, why couldn't he help us get in the playoffs or even suceed as Bosh's Robin?

The guy got to play with a star big man in Bosh, for many years, who now is the second best player on the best team in the world and was still garbage.

The guy just got exposed those years playing with a top tier NBA star talent.

Bargnani is a garbage player. Dime a dozen chucker, with no value anywhere around the league. He is historically one of the worst defending bigs of all time, and a mediocre offensive player.

He is a big net negative to any team and the main reason we are 4-19. Quote it, sig it, do whatever you like with it.

talksick · Post #259 » by **talksick** » Sat Dec 15, 2012 5:22 am

Love it, Bargs is being whipped for saying they are the worst team in the NBA and Casey is being made fun of in the other thread for saying the Raps aren't. People make up your mind.

two5 · Post #260 » by **two5** » Sat Dec 15, 2012 5:25 am

Ilmago_Bargs7 wrote:So now Bargs is blamed for everything-?? lol... so now i have to forget Jose's years of atrocious defence, no i have to forget that we havent had a true SF in a while, etc, etc...???

Bargs atrocious defense, his defensive/offensive shortcomings and inefficient scoring were the primary reasons why we fielded 20 win teams with Bosh out there.

Raps in 4 · Post #261 » by **Raps in 4** » Sat Dec 15, 2012 7:26 am

**** scrub.

hoopskillz · Post #262 » by **hoopskillz** » Sat Dec 15, 2012 7:31 am

Well, he's right. Raptors are the worst team in the league.
The only thing he neglect to mention is the reason why we're the worst.

Hero · Post #263 » by **Hero** » Sat Dec 15, 2012 8:44 am

We need to find the worst situation for him and trade him there. Imo Lakers. No way he can handle the pressure and the fans are way more ruthless, as is the media.

Post #264 » by **Harry Palmer** » Sat Dec 15, 2012 8:47 am

Hero wrote:We need to find the worst situation for him and trade him there. Imo Lakers. No way he can handle the pressure and the fans are way more ruthless, as is the media.

I don't get why people are freaking out about this, except when we turn here we really turn, but I will admit that there would be a sense of poetic symmetry for us to base our last Bargnani transaction on how it will affect Andrea Bargnani.

pass first · Post #265 » by **pass first** » Sat Dec 15, 2012 8:50 am

talksick wrote:Love it, Bargs is being whipped for saying they are the worst team in the NBA and Casey is being made fun of in the other thread for saying the Raps aren't. People make up your mind.

pass first · Post #266 » by **pass first** » Sat Dec 15, 2012 8:54 am

Hero wrote:We need to find the worst situation for him and trade him there. Imo Lakers. No way he can handle the pressure and the fans are way more ruthless, as is the media.

All the pressure will be on Bargs to bail out Kobe, Nash, Dwight and D´Antoni and restore World Peace.

senfono · Post #267 » by **senfono** » Sat Dec 15, 2012 9:15 am

I can say "Raps are the worst team in the NBA", any of us here can say "Raps are the worst team in the NBA"... Bargnani can´t.

He must say "WE are the worst team in the NBA, I AM the main piece of the worst team in the NBA"

kelso · Post #268 » by **kelso** » Sat Dec 15, 2012 11:00 am

two5 wrote:
speedythief wrote:We sucked long before Bargnani, Junior. He's only been around for a minute, and he's only been a focal point of the team for a few seconds.

've watched this team play since I was 10 years old. We had a few awful years after Vince, but Bosh was very capable of getting us many playoff years.

If Bargnani was so talented and great, why couldn't he help us get in the playoffs or even suceed as Bosh's Robin?

The guy got to play with a star big man in Bosh, for many years, who now is the second best player on the best team in the world

So, which guy is Bosh better than on Miami- Wade or LeBron? I stop listening to you after this.

TheAlchemist · Post #269 » by **TheAlchemist** » Sat Dec 15, 2012 11:20 am

Ilmago_Bargs7 wrote:So now Bargs is blamed for everything-?? lol... so now i have to forget Jose's years of atrocious defence, no i have to forget that we havent had a true SF in a while, etc, etc...???

Bargs is a disease that has plagued this team for far too long.

He doesn't rebound.

He doesn't play good help defence.

He's lost his quickness and doesn't put the ball on the floor anymore.

He can't shoot a high percentage.

On top of everything he gets minutes awarded to him like he deserves it.

Physically, Mentally, and psychologically, Bargs is NOT good for this team and is a big problem. I'd rather hustle and win then rely on his sorry ass.

kplooksafterme · Post #270 » by **kplooksafterme** » Sat Dec 15, 2012 11:32 am

Even though Bargnani may be right that this is the worst team in the NBA, and assuming that nothing was lost or gained in translation, his comments are really a slap in the face to his team-mates. Saying the Raptors are the worst team in the NBA without specifying that you're just talking about the results and not necessarily the quality of players on the team is like saying your team-mates are garbage. This might be true, but you can't say stuff like this publicly and still expect to get along with your team.

Illuminati_ · Post #271 » by **Illuminati_** » Sat Dec 15, 2012 3:02 pm

kplooksafterme wrote:Even though Bargnani may be right that this is the worst team in the NBA, and assuming that nothing was lost or gained in translation, his comments are really a slap in the face to his team-mates. Saying the Raptors are the worst team in the NBA without specifying that you're just talking about the results and not necessarily the quality of players on the team is like saying your team-mates are garbage. This might be true, but you can't say stuff like this publicly and still expect to get along with your team.

well he did specify asto why the team came out to a horrible startthis season. Too bad barg quote was taken out of context.

Illuminati_ · Post #272 » by **Illuminati_** » Sat Dec 15, 2012 3:06 pm

two5 wrote:
speedythief wrote:Unfortunately the Raptors are a miserable franchise. I actually don't blame Bargs for saying what he said, in a moment where he felt he could express himself without the atrocious and desperate sports media in Toronto castigating him. In a sense I agree with him--it seems like no franchise bottoms-out every year like we do. We don't just get into skids, we bust through the bottom of the barrel pretty much every season. It's extremely discouraging to be a fan of a franchise that is consistently devoid of creativity, audacity, and common sense. All that being said, Bargs is the de facto leader of the team and he is out of line saying that, if he's been quoted correctly and in context. It's a defeatist statement and if we really are committed to a "winning culture" within the club (questionable at the top) he's not on board with that and he needs to suck it up and make up for it or find a new place to ply his trade.

This reason why this franchise is so miserable is due to Bargnani. I mean the guy has just been a burden on this franchise ever since after his rookie season.

He got to play with a star player in Bosh, being spoonfed open and good looks and the guy still sucked. Both offensively and defensively.

He's the common denominator.

Go look at Bosh now, second best player on a championship/dynasty capable team. You want to tell me the fault lies in the talents of other guys?

Even alongside talented players, he's bad. The guy is just a big 7 foot, overglorified Al Harrington

They made it to the playoffs with that "burden". I dont know why a pg who is still on this team who actually played major minutes isnt a common denominator in all of this. Also how was too big men who live outisde the paint ever going to mesh? You dont mention this as well but we finished a point out of post season in bosh's last season...even though bosh didnt play down the last stretch of the season.

The hate is getting sickening at this time.

BackseatBoss · Post #273 » by **BackseatBoss** » Sat Dec 15, 2012 3:33 pm

He's right, we are the worst team in the NBA. However, he should also mention, that he's one of the main reasons why we're the worst team in the league. Also, it's kind of stupid to say that about your own team when you're a player. That really won't help the locker room morale.

Post #274 » by **5DOM** » Sat Dec 15, 2012 5:35 pm

Says he was misquoted and that he would never do that to his teammates

Raps Militia · Post #275 » by **Raps Militia** » Sat Dec 15, 2012 5:38 pm

Ryan Wolstat ‏@WolstatSun
Bargnani said he might not speak to that outlet again and was very angry about how story was spun

I'm Italian, and I assure you that "La Gazzetta Dello Sport" is a journal of ****.