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Re: Vince Carter interview
Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 1:29 am
by TheFreshPrince
KnickerBonkerz wrote:J-Roc wrote:Meh, a bunch of garbage. He demanded a trade. No one boos him because we think he hated Toronto. We boo him because he wanted to go help the fans in the swamp of Jersey win, rather than his fans here. gtfo with this jersey retiring crap. Go let Jersey do that for you. Oh right, no more team in NJ. Oh right, you were only ever considered a Richard Jefferson caliber player to the real star J KIdd. g t f o
This is what I was talking about when I said bitter and pathetic
There was a time when I had this type of hatred for the guy, but that was when he was still in a Raptors uniform half assing it. I think Babcock deserved the hatred after the trade, I mean it's not like people were booing Vince while he was still a Raptor, so why boo him after he gets traded just cuz we got jack sh** for him? You could make the argument "ohh he diminished his trade value", okay sure.. but why would you trade him then? Wy didn't Babcock wait until the offseason where we could've got much more for him?
But the point is, do you see any other teams booing a player that left their team almost a decade ago? Time to grow up and put our big boy pants on. Get over it
/end thread
Fans did boo him at the arena before he left. But the little schoolgirl grudge is beyond played out.
Re: Vince Carter interview
Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 2:12 am
by Geddy
CreaM wrote:Bring him home.
Re: Vince Carter interview
Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 2:14 am
by StartingBench
Bargnani and kleiza for Vince. Dallas needs dirk lite now more than ever.
Re: Vince Carter interview
Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 2:35 am
by J-Roc
KnickerBonkerz wrote:PS I don't know why people think he requested specifically to go to New Jersey... he didn't. He a requested a trade period. He didn't do what Dwight and Melo did where they limited their teams' options for who to do a deal with.
He wanted to leave to play for another team. He was supposed to be the leader of our team and he was under contract.
Babcock wouldn't have had to trade him if he didn't demand a trade.
Re: Vince Carter interview
Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 2:41 am
by Guy Smiley
J-Roc wrote:KnickerBonkerz wrote:PS I don't know why people think he requested specifically to go to New Jersey... he didn't. He a requested a trade period. He didn't do what Dwight and Melo did where they limited their teams' options for who to do a deal with.
He wanted to leave to play for another team. He was supposed to be the leader of our team and he was under contract.
Babcock wouldn't have had to trade him if he didn't demand a trade.
Actually the organization was moving in a different direction. After GG got fired they were looking to move away from VC as the franchise player.
Re: Vince Carter interview
Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 2:50 am
by J-Roc
Guy Smiley wrote:J-Roc wrote:KnickerBonkerz wrote:PS I don't know why people think he requested specifically to go to New Jersey... he didn't. He a requested a trade period. He didn't do what Dwight and Melo did where they limited their teams' options for who to do a deal with.
He wanted to leave to play for another team. He was supposed to be the leader of our team and he was under contract.
Babcock wouldn't have had to trade him if he didn't demand a trade.
Actually the organization was moving in a different direction. After GG got fired they were looking to move away from VC as the franchise player.
Please. VC wanted Dr. J and wasn't happy ownership didn't abide. Is that what defines going in a different direction?? Not hiring a GM requested by a player? Nah, VC destroyed his legacy here. Hope he got to experience the greener grass on the other side.
Re: Vince Carter interview
Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 3:17 am
by C_Money
I want him back so bad just to make this team somewhat relevant again. We've been a total mess ever since he's been gone. He may not be the same player he used to be but he is still a big name guy who was suppossed to be the face of this franchise for many years.
Bring him back and then retire his jersey.
Re: Vince Carter interview
Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 3:31 am
by Tofubeque
I don't get the hate for VC booing here. It's the most established tradition this franchise has. It makes it into video games
Re: Vince Carter interview
Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 5:01 am
by Guy Smiley
J-Roc wrote:Guy Smiley wrote:J-Roc wrote:
He wanted to leave to play for another team. He was supposed to be the leader of our team and he was under contract.
Babcock wouldn't have had to trade him if he didn't demand a trade.
Actually the organization was moving in a different direction. After GG got fired they were looking to move away from VC as the franchise player.
Please. VC wanted Dr. J and wasn't happy ownership didn't abide. Is that what defines going in a different direction?? Not hiring a GM requested by a player? Nah, VC destroyed his legacy here. Hope he got to experience the greener grass on the other side.
Richard Peddie promised Vince he could participate in the GM search. That was later withdrawn from the table without being communicated to Vince. Peddie even admitted he broke his promise to Vince.
Vince had very valid reasons to want out. He went behind closed doors but in typical MLSE fashion they used the media to forward their agenda.
Vince was more successful without the Raptors in terms of playoff success. Sadly he has outperformed the Raptors entire history on his own. So yeah, I guess even though he had very modest success the pastures were truly greener.
Cue the 2012/13 Toronto Raptors.
Re: Vince Carter interview
Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 5:06 am
by speedythief
Let's invite him back to Toronto for a jersey retirement ceremony, except when we pull down the curtain it is a giant picture of VC laying face down on the court with his hands over his eyes, while Rasheed Wallace makes a shoveling mime in the background and the referees try not to laugh.
Seriously, funk that guy.
Re: Vince Carter interview
Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 5:06 am
by Boobs
RaptorReloaded wrote:The day VC was traded to me was like 9/11 in the sence that I remember exactly where I was and what I was doing when it happened.
Sitting in my old house, living room, saw theScore ticker, couldn't believe it. Minutes later, "On..on PS2 I probably could've got a bit more.."
Re: Vince Carter interview
Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 6:09 am
by MEDIC
I think we've all learned (from Paul Peirce or Kobe situation) that when your franchise player is unhappy with the curent situation, as a management team you increase the talent around him.
You don't trade the guy.
Re: Vince Carter interview
Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 6:10 am
by West Rouge
MEDIC wrote:I think we've all learned (from Paul Peirce or Kobe situation) that when your franchise player is unhappy with the curent situation, as a management team you increase the talent around him.
You don't treade the guy.
You mean like BC bringing in Hedo?
Re: Vince Carter interview
Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 6:12 am
by MEDIC
West Rouge wrote:MEDIC wrote:I think we've all learned (from Paul Peirce or Kobe situation) that when your franchise player is unhappy with the curent situation, as a management team you increase the talent around him.
You don't treade the guy.
You mean like BC bringing in Hedo?
Haha. I guess..........if you think that Bosh was even close to a prime Vince Carter.......
Re: Vince Carter interview
Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 6:14 am
by LAUGHING
how badly did he get booed tonight?
Re: Vince Carter interview
Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 6:16 am
by West Rouge
MEDIC wrote:West Rouge wrote:MEDIC wrote:I think we've all learned (from Paul Peirce or Kobe situation) that when your franchise player is unhappy with the curent situation, as a management team you increase the talent around him.
You don't treade the guy.
You mean like BC bringing in Hedo?
Haha. I guess..........if you think that Bosh was even close to a prime Vince Carter.......
Well no i don't. Although BC sold him to us that way which was bad. But not as bad as....
Having Bargs as our main guys since Bosh left. Just thinking of both those scenarios make me mad that someone actually gets paid big money to create these rosters
I also think building around one star is another flawed approach in today's NBA. You need to obtain multiple star players to be taken seriously. And quite frankly if thats not possible for us to compete for a championship ever any reason. Im not longer interested
Re: Vince Carter interview
Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 6:17 am
by MEDIC
PS: I love VC threads.
You have all these guys popping out of the woodwork. Been on RealGM for 8+ years, but have < 100 posts.
Re: Vince Carter interview
Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 6:18 am
by MEDIC
West Rouge wrote:Well no i don't. Although BC sold him to us that way which was bad. But not as bad as....
Having Bargs as our main guys since Bosh left. Just thinking of both those scenarios make me mad that someone actually gets paid big money to create these rosters
Just when you thought it couldn't get any worse.....
Re: Vince Carter interview
Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 6:19 am
by West Rouge
I will say i really miss the VC days
Re: Vince Carter interview
Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 6:58 am
by PRESTIGE
Seems like every year we get this. Its like an anniversary of a death. Just let it go. Its over.