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Harry Palmer wrote:DH:

Hypothetical.

The Raptors play exactly the same way they are playing now.

Only the league changes the rules so that instead of almost 60% of teams making the playoffs, almost 90% do.

Is your experience watching the exact same games played by the exact same players different? Is the bad basketball better?

If it is, isn't the solution to be found within our own perspectives? Just decide that today we want 100 points/pizza. Tomorrow we want a lot of 3s. W/e. it's not about having a chance to win it all, so let's set our own goals. As you say, the league sets their lines based on marketing...why do we buy in if the reality isn't different? We're seeing the top w/e % of basketball players in the world playing the game...if we abandon the need to build a real winner, why not find contentment wherever we look?

cdel00 wrote:For me it's about watching the game played the right way. The thrill of long stretches of great team work on both ends of the court. The oohs and aahs of a well set pick. The joy of beautiful defensive rotations. The crispness of a buttery smooth stroke on a wide open shot created by a well executed play. Etc.

I often hear that only thing that counts is the W but I disagree. I think the only thing that counts is the performance during the 200 or so possessions. The result is not as meaningful to me as the play that lead to the result.

I want to see proper execution for 200 plays.

Win or lose I don't care for me it's all about the content that lead to the result.

Double Helix wrote:
Harry, I want to reply to this but can't. I'm heading out for the night but will later. If you see it, awesome. If not, I wasn't ignoring.

Harry Palmer wrote:

cdel00 wrote:For me it's about watching the game played the right way. The thrill of long stretches of great team work on both ends of the court. The oohs and aahs of a well set pick. The joy of beautiful defensive rotations. The crispness of a buttery smooth stroke on a wide open shot created by a well executed play. Etc.

I often hear that only thing that counts is the W but I disagree. I think the only thing that counts is the performance during the 200 or so possessions. The result is not as meaningful to me as the play that lead to the result.

I want to see proper execution for 200 plays.

Win or lose I don't care for me it's all about the content that lead to the result.

Why watch the NBA? You sound like a natural NCAA fan.

Dr Positivity wrote:I love that PHX trade for Memphis. Dudley is exactly the type of player MEM needs to replace Gay with at SF. He'd be a permanent version of 2011 Battier for them spacing the floor, hitting open shots and moving the ball with a high IQ. Or basically the Tayshaun Prince to their 2000s Pistons. Don't think the Raps can compete with that offer even if they put Ross in the trade, because MEM is still trying to win a title the next 2 years and nothing we can offer helps that as much as PHX giving them that Dudley glue guy piece on the wings

kmatrixg wrote:

Dr Positivity wrote:I love that PHX trade for Memphis. Dudley is exactly the type of player MEM needs to replace Gay with at SF. He'd be a permanent version of 2011 Battier for them spacing the floor, hitting open shots and moving the ball with a high IQ. Or basically the Tayshaun Prince to their 2000s Pistons. Don't think the Raps can compete with that offer even if they put Ross in the trade, because MEM is still trying to win a title the next 2 years and nothing we can offer helps that as much as PHX giving them that Dudley glue guy piece on the wings

This is basically spot on to what is going on. People downplaying Dudley haven't analyzed much of what the guy does. With Conley, Randolph and Gasol, they don't need much playmaking ability - especially at the behest of 19 million a season. Dudley will do the job well, and for a fifth of the cost. We can't compete with the offer, and I haven't seen Hollinger talk well about one of our players for YEARS. Dudley is a Hollinger star - cheap and efficient.

Snakeyes wrote:Hope he ends up on the Suns. Once Gay is traded, there won't be any knee-jerk BC treadmill moves left, right?

SwaggWagg wrote:

Snakeyes wrote:Hope he ends up on the Suns. Once Gay is traded, there won't be any knee-jerk BC treadmill moves left, right?

So Rudy Gay would be a treadmill move?


This fanbase never stops amazing.

Wo1verine wrote:

SwaggWagg wrote:

Snakeyes wrote:Hope he ends up on the Suns. Once Gay is traded, there won't be any knee-jerk BC treadmill moves left, right?

So Rudy Gay would be a treadmill move?


This fanbase never stops amazing.

Adding Rudy Gay is defiantly a treadmill move..

adding him doesn't take us to the next level.

SwaggWagg wrote:Ross, Davis, Bargnani, Calderon, Pick

For

Randolph, Gay


Lowry
Derozan
Gay
Randolph
Valanciunas

SwaggWagg wrote:We'll not get a player anywhere near that talented anytime soon. Fans of this team being this absurdly picky is ridicuous considering our history.

Wo1verine wrote:

SwaggWagg wrote:We'll not get a player anywhere near that talented anytime soon. Fans of this team being this absurdly picky is ridicuous considering our history.

That's true, but unless we're contender's , i don't care because our roster isn't talented enough with gay and that's not a knock on him! we're just not in a position to be adding high priced players to a mediocre roster at this point.

SwaggWagg wrote:

Wo1verine wrote:

SwaggWagg wrote:So Rudy Gay would be a treadmill move?


This fanbase never stops amazing.

Adding Rudy Gay is defiantly a treadmill move..

adding him doesn't take us to the next level.

We'll not get a player anywhere near that talented anytime soon. Fans of this team being this absurdly picky is ridicuous considering our history.