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OT: NBA Comparisons to Draft Picks

Posted: Tue Jan 8, 2013 5:27 pm
by Raptors Aiya
I was just looking at the NBA Mock draft for 2014 (The Year of the Wiggins) and I noticed that Wiggins has drawn comparisons to Scottie Pippen while his rival Jabari Parker has drawn comparisons to Carmelo Anthony. I haven't seen either play a full game outside of game highlights so I can;t really comment on that.

But then I started looking at last year'd draft and Next year's as well.

Last year:
Anthony Davis was compared to Kevin Garnett
Seems fair, the play a similar style but Davis is not as much a bully as KG. (Not yet anyway)

Damiam Lillard was compared to Jerryd Bayless
Depends on how you look at it, he does play a similar style to Bayless but he's a far better leader and more effective in influencing the outcome of games.

Bradley Beal was once compared to Ray Allen but his comparisons have been updated to the likes of Eric Gordon

Jeremy Lamb was compared to Reggie Miller so hopefully he can turn his game around and live up to the expectation.

Terrence Ross was compared to Eddie Jones which, again, is too early to tell but if he can live up to that comparison I'd say it's a pretty good pick. Let's ease up on the T-Mac comparisons

Next year:
We have Ben McLemore being compared to Ray Allen

Nerlens Noel to Marcus camby

Shabazz Muhammad compared to Michael Kidd-Gilchrist

In the past:
Derrick Rose was compared to Dwyane Wade, which is a fair comparison but Rose takes more risks

Kyrie Irving was compared to Chris Paul, I don;t think he's as good a passer but he's way more athletic. I'd say he's more of a Allen Iverson

Demar had a "Best Case" of Vince Carter and "worst case" of Nick Young

Jonas Valanciunas was compared to Spencer Hawes/Primoz Brezic. Hmmmmmm, a little harsh maybe?

We all know Andrea was supposed to be the second coming of Dirk and Adam Morrison was the next Larry Bird.

Are all these comparisons merited? And do they give added pressure for the players to live up to?

I think a lot of times ppl forget that the comparisons are for the style of play and they are not to project the level of their success.

I couldn't find Lebron's Mock Draft so does anyone know who he was compared to?

And are there any other notable draftees that did/didn't live up to their NBA comparison in your opinion?

Re: OT: NBA Comparisons to Draft Picks

Posted: Tue Jan 8, 2013 5:43 pm
by Meursault
look up:

- DeShawn Stevenson
- Darius Miles
- DerMarr Johnson
- Jerome Moiso

Re: OT: NBA Comparisons to Draft Picks

Posted: Tue Jan 8, 2013 5:52 pm
by niQ
Meursault wrote:look up:

- DeShawn Stevenson
- Darius Miles
- DerMarr Johnson
- Jerome Moiso


The DeShawn Stevenson one is a classic.

Re: OT: NBA Comparisons to Draft Picks

Posted: Tue Jan 8, 2013 5:53 pm
by cbpern
Maybe they have since changed, but I swear nbadraft.net used to pick their comparisons based on who a player kinda looks like.

Re: OT: NBA Comparisons to Draft Picks

Posted: Tue Jan 8, 2013 5:55 pm
by Meursault
cbpern wrote:Maybe they have since changed, but I swear nbadraft.net used to pick their comparisons based on who a player kinda looks like.


Jeremy Lin - Yao Ming
Mengke Bateer - Yao Ming
Chen Jianhua - Yao Ming
Negus Webster-Chan - Yao Ming/Corey Maggette

Re: OT: NBA Comparisons to Draft Picks

Posted: Tue Jan 8, 2013 5:58 pm
by Raptors Aiya
niQ wrote:
Meursault wrote:look up:

- DeShawn Stevenson
- Darius Miles
- DerMarr Johnson
- Jerome Moiso


The DeShawn Stevenson one is a classic.


LMAO

Michael Jordan
T-Mac
Scottie Pippen
and Kevin Garnett??

That is CRAY

In defense or Darius Miles. At the time he was drafted he was compared to Tracy Mcgrady not T-Mac. T-Mac didnt arrive till he landed in Orlando so if you look at Darius Miles' ceiling was only till Tracy McGrady. he didn't reach "T-Mac"

Re: OT: NBA Comparisons to Draft Picks

Posted: Tue Jan 8, 2013 5:59 pm
by Raptors Aiya
cbpern wrote:Maybe they have since changed, but I swear nbadraft.net used to pick their comparisons based on who a player kinda looks like.


I Know they compared Jordan hill to Chris Bosh cuz of his dreads

http://www.nbadraft.net/players/jordan-hill

Re: OT: NBA Comparisons to Draft Picks

Posted: Tue Jan 8, 2013 7:03 pm
by God Squad
NBA comparisons suck. They just boost a prospects value to casual fans and dumb GMs. IIRC Dion Waiters is the next coming of Wade. Even though Wade and freakish wingspan and super athletic. Basically take comparisons with a grain of salt. I do like the Anthony Davis comp. I see a little KG. But Imo kevin was far more polished offensively

Re: OT: NBA Comparisons to Draft Picks

Posted: Tue Jan 8, 2013 7:12 pm
by vergogna
it's just a comparison, come on
if a 53yo player is making all those post-up moves and fade-aways at the YMCA is compared to Olajuwon

Re: OT: NBA Comparisons to Draft Picks

Posted: Tue Jan 8, 2013 7:19 pm
by Raptors Aiya
Well the reason i started this topic is to see if the comparisons were any where close to the finished product.

Comparison's give u an idea of how the player plays, and I was curious as to how accurate they really are.

Re: OT: NBA Comparisons to Draft Picks

Posted: Tue Jan 8, 2013 7:20 pm
by kmatrixg
WHY HAS NOBODY BUT MYSELF COMPARED LILLARD TO STEVE FRANCIS YET?! I'm baffled!

Re: OT: NBA Comparisons to Draft Picks

Posted: Tue Jan 8, 2013 7:21 pm
by Meursault
kmatrixg wrote:WHY HAS NOBODY BUT MYSELF COMPARED LILLARD TO STEVE FRANCIS YET?! I'm baffled!


because lillard's girlfriend is not nearly as pretty as cuttino mobley

Re: OT: NBA Comparisons to Draft Picks

Posted: Tue Jan 8, 2013 7:22 pm
by kmatrixg
cbpern wrote:Maybe they have since changed, but I swear nbadraft.net used to pick their comparisons based on who a player kinda looks like.


I noticed that as well. Or at least body type, I'm not sure which was more prevalent.

Re: OT: NBA Comparisons to Draft Picks

Posted: Tue Jan 8, 2013 8:28 pm
by roundhead0
Keep in mind that the comparisons are often about certain elements of their style of play, and not necessarily meaning they will be the same level of player.

Re: OT: NBA Comparisons to Draft Picks

Posted: Tue Jan 8, 2013 8:43 pm
by kmatrixg
nevermind

Re: OT: NBA Comparisons to Draft Picks

Posted: Tue Jan 8, 2013 8:54 pm
by Pchu
You have to take most NBA draft comparison with a grain of salt, and we shouldn't have these unrealistic expectations for players.

I remember DeRozan's comp range from Vince Carter to Kobe Bryant, which is setting our expectations way too high and there is no way DeRozan can live up to that expectation.

Basically, the people who write these comps just speculate, they have no basis. It's just pure fantasy in their mind.

Re: OT: NBA Comparisons to Draft Picks

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 8:10 am
by Dr Positivity
Couldn't find a more general draft thread, but looks like Ben McLemore is about to become the frontrunner to go #1. Can't have a better night for hype than dropping 33 with a game tieing buzzer beater, he's putting up a ridiculous 51/46/89 shooting statline which with his athleticism and body type will likely bring about the Reggie and Ray comparisons. NBADraft.net has him at #1 now, I bet the other sites follow soon

Re: OT: NBA Comparisons to Draft Picks

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 8:17 am
by Harry Palmer
People are comparing Ross to T-Mac?!?

Oh, this board and the rampant negativity.

Re: OT: NBA Comparisons to Draft Picks

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 10:16 am
by UcanUwill
Meursault wrote:look up:

- DeShawn Stevenson
- Darius Miles
- DerMarr Johnson
- Jerome Moiso


Well, they compare playing styles after all. Not saying much though, all those comparisons were nonsensical.




kmatrixg wrote:
cbpern wrote:Maybe they have since changed, but I swear nbadraft.net used to pick their comparisons based on who a player kinda looks like.


I noticed that as well. Or at least body type, I'm not sure which was more prevalent.



Oh, I have one then, Quentel Woods = LeBron James.

Re: OT: NBA Comparisons to Draft Picks

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 2:34 pm
by Superchunk
Meursault wrote:
kmatrixg wrote:WHY HAS NOBODY BUT MYSELF COMPARED LILLARD TO STEVE FRANCIS YET?! I'm baffled!


because lillard's girlfriend is not nearly as pretty as cuttino mobley


Classic :)