OT: "Disrespected" Scalabrine Challenges Fans to 1-on-1
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People forget that many NBA role players were once stars in the NCAA themselves but had to accept roles because the top 100 players in the NBA in any given era are all that much more dominant. What's hilarious is that Scall is 34 and not particularly athletic so he was ripe for the picking in a setup like this.
Younger role players with a little more versatility would have tore the average mid-level college player up. Imagine going up against a kid like Jimmer or Reddick back before people started taking both more seriously as legit NBA players. Can't judge a book by its cover. They'd be trading 2 for 1s all day long. And the biggest difference between kids out on the playground and those who are coached in college is defence. The kids that make it to college work on defence so much and learn so much about maximizing their defensive capabilities that it gives them an advantage over And1 types who only focus on ball handling and flash.
Younger role players with a little more versatility would have tore the average mid-level college player up. Imagine going up against a kid like Jimmer or Reddick back before people started taking both more seriously as legit NBA players. Can't judge a book by its cover. They'd be trading 2 for 1s all day long. And the biggest difference between kids out on the playground and those who are coached in college is defence. The kids that make it to college work on defence so much and learn so much about maximizing their defensive capabilities that it gives them an advantage over And1 types who only focus on ball handling and flash.
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this is like watching
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I don't like the fact that its defence ball after a missed shot. That's some lazy one on one.
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KnickerBonkerz wrote:I'd like to see him go up against someone 1 on 1 who's not a short unathletic white kid
like the black kid he went up against in this video?
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duppyy wrote:I don't like the fact that its defence ball after a missed shot. That's some lazy one on one.
Sure, but he's playing 3 games in a row.. 1 on 1 is tiring as **** if you go up against some legit competition.. the instant back and forth defense to offense takes a lot out of you.
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There was once a thread on here called "Could you take Derrick Murray 1-on-1".
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Anatomize wrote:Many people have this notion that just because you're an end bench guy in the NBA or a "human victory cigar" then you absolutely suck.
These guys would absolutely destroy any average joe pickup basketball player, and even many college players. Scalabrine wasn't even really trying out there... a prime example of how good "scrubs" are in the NBA is when they go to a bad team and get high usage and shot volume (ala Alan Anderson - I mean who cared about him before he came to the Raptors? He was a nobody on Charlotte).
Most end of the bench guys in the NBA were standout college players with ridiculous statistics. You don't just get picked into the league to be a cheerleader, it just shows how good the top guys in the NBA in comparison to the 12th men.
The one caveat I'd add, though, is that many 12th men are specialists that may not excel 1-on-1. I could totally see somebody with sufficient size beating Reggie Evans under the same rules Scalabrine was using, for example. The probability of destroying the average pickup player is still very high, obviously. If nothing else, most have balled year-round since they were in high school - 10 to 15 years.
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I worked at Olympia Sports camp in the '90's. I played some 3 on 3 and 5 on 5 with Jeff Turner. I thought he was a scrub at the time. Boy, was I ever wrong about that. Anyone who makes a roster (with exception of a couple of projects) will devour even the best player at the Y, every time.
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Sojourn wrote:i actually think some of us can take caledron. not discrediting caledron as a player but he excels best in an organized game with pick and rolls which is great for him because u get paid to play that way not one on one. also, i think alan anderson would probably be our best one on one player because he has the strength to defend bigger guys and the speed, handles and shotmaking to score.
I absolutely guarantee - guarantee! - that Jose Calderon would start throwing down dunks over every RealGM poster.
You're talking about a starting point guard in the NBA. The dude is a top-30 point guard in the best basketball league in the world.
And you feel some amateurs could beat him because he "excels best in an organized game"?
Sit down, kid.
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The guys in the vid suck though. Scal found the **** ballers to go against though. I agree though, when I was in highschool I went to a camp in Gonzaga and played against Adam Morrison. Thought he was total garbage before but the dude was insane. Best player I've ever played against. Funny thing was everyone in the gym was calling Jesus cuz of his long beard and greasy hair, and that feathery touch from three Oh man!
This was right after that epic game 7 series with the lakers and celtics. Was after Jimmy Kimmel roasted and tried youtube was trying to prop him up as the heir to Scal's throne
This was right after that epic game 7 series with the lakers and celtics. Was after Jimmy Kimmel roasted and tried youtube was trying to prop him up as the heir to Scal's throne
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UcanUwill wrote:ruckus wrote:With all the talk of Lowry's fat, Calderon's slow, DeMar sucks, Bargs sucks, AA is a d-league scrub, etc, etc; there must be quite a few disillusioned souls on this board that thinks they could take a player or two on our roster in a game of one-on- one.
Not sure it was RealGM, I think not, but we had similar thread. Guys claimed they could drop several points on Bargnani.
Doubt it, Bargs is like Lebron to Scal's Keith bogans, LMFAO, bigger, quicker, better shooter, not a chance in hell.
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FTW wrote:Sojourn wrote:i actually think some of us can take caledron. not discrediting caledron as a player but he excels best in an organized game with pick and rolls which is great for him because u get paid to play that way not one on one. also, i think alan anderson would probably be our best one on one player because he has the strength to defend bigger guys and the speed, handles and shotmaking to score.
I absolutely guarantee - guarantee! - that Jose Calderon would start throwing down dunks over every RealGM poster.
You're talking about a starting point guard in the NBA. The dude is a top-30 point guard in the best basketball league in the world.
And you feel some amateurs could beat him because he "excels best in an organized game"?
Sit down, kid.
This guy is hilarious , there's a reason these guys get paid millions to play at the proffessional level, they would absolutely kill any amateurs in any format be they 1 on 1, 5 on 5 or what Scal demonstrated a game of 1 vs 3.
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hype_2004 wrote:FTW wrote:Sojourn wrote:i actually think some of us can take caledron. not discrediting caledron as a player but he excels best in an organized game with pick and rolls which is great for him because u get paid to play that way not one on one. also, i think alan anderson would probably be our best one on one player because he has the strength to defend bigger guys and the speed, handles and shotmaking to score.
I absolutely guarantee - guarantee! - that Jose Calderon would start throwing down dunks over every RealGM poster.
You're talking about a starting point guard in the NBA. The dude is a top-30 point guard in the best basketball league in the world.
And you feel some amateurs could beat him because he "excels best in an organized game"?
Sit down, kid.
This guy is hilarious , there's a reason these guys get paid millions to play at the proffessional level, they would absolutely kill any amateurs in any format be they 1 on 1, 5 on 5 or what Scal demonstrated a game of 1 vs 3.
Yup, Jose would destroy anyone on this board, no questions asked. He'd just rip 18 footer after 18 footer until the defender played close to him and then blow by him for easy layup after easy layup.
Hell, he looks like he's 5'10" on an NBA court, but he's actually 6'3" and could probably out rebound 95% of the guys on this board.
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I used to be a 7th/8th man on one of the top HS teams in the province . . . fancied myself as a pretty decent player, certainly no aspirations or anything (rugby was actually my sport - and 6'3" 4s don't exactly go anywhere) - but still could hold my own. I remember one day I ended up playing against my uncle, who was in his mid 40s at the time, and used to play on the Finnish national team (lol! right?) . . . Anyways, 16 years old - figured the old man didn't have a chance! . . . Got myself absolutely destroyed as he drained 25 footers from every spot on the court . . .
Now if you consider that he was 20 years past his prime, and played for Finland of all countries . . versus my relative scrub-ness as a role player on a metro-champion HS team . . . think of just how far from any NBA team he would have been in his prime . . . and yet he was still phenomenal relative to anything I'd seen. A number of my team mates ended up in NCAA div 2 / 1, at least 1 is playing professionally in England - we were pretty good . . . this guy at 45 was significantly better 1 on 1 than they were . . .
Just goes to show you how delusional people get when they watch these guys and compare them against their peers.
Someone on this board could compete against Calderon because he's a team based player? Good lord no . . . His defence would destroy anyone here (yes his defence) before you even consider the speed / shooting stroke.
Now if you consider that he was 20 years past his prime, and played for Finland of all countries . . versus my relative scrub-ness as a role player on a metro-champion HS team . . . think of just how far from any NBA team he would have been in his prime . . . and yet he was still phenomenal relative to anything I'd seen. A number of my team mates ended up in NCAA div 2 / 1, at least 1 is playing professionally in England - we were pretty good . . . this guy at 45 was significantly better 1 on 1 than they were . . .
Just goes to show you how delusional people get when they watch these guys and compare them against their peers.
Someone on this board could compete against Calderon because he's a team based player? Good lord no . . . His defence would destroy anyone here (yes his defence) before you even consider the speed / shooting stroke.
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All you have to do to beat Calderon 1 on 1 is this:
First, insist on a shot clock. Second, do not even bother guarding the paint. Calderon is allergic to coloured hardwood.
Next, it's advisable to place the nearest bystander between yourself and the rim. Then wait. And wait. And wait.
Because with 1 on the shot clock. That ball is coming to you.
Once you have the ball it's simple. Dribble to the rim and put it in the basket.
First, insist on a shot clock. Second, do not even bother guarding the paint. Calderon is allergic to coloured hardwood.
Next, it's advisable to place the nearest bystander between yourself and the rim. Then wait. And wait. And wait.
Because with 1 on the shot clock. That ball is coming to you.
Once you have the ball it's simple. Dribble to the rim and put it in the basket.
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Hyperglide wrote:WyseGuy wrote:Any quality college player with decent height and strength should be able to do a much better job against him. Most of those guys did well defensively except the young kid, he was too light. The last guy needed more weight too but his length helped him out. They were all really bad offensively though. Forcing shots, playing to Scal's advantages. The first black guy would have been the most likely to grab a game, with his strength and athleticism, but he couldn't buy a bucket.
lol Scal wasn't even trying dude. This post is hilarious.
Lol obviously he wasn't going all out. If he was desperate to win all he needed to do was post them up every single time. He's clearly just having fun. I just meant that, a smart offensive player would have played a better game. lol ridiculous to even assume scal was trying... he played against a 4 scrubs who couldn't shoot the ball, and who weighed at LEAST 35-40 pounds less than him. If he was trying it would have been 11 buckets straight every game.
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FTW wrote:Sojourn wrote:i actually think some of us can take caledron. not discrediting caledron as a player but he excels best in an organized game with pick and rolls which is great for him because u get paid to play that way not one on one. also, i think alan anderson would probably be our best one on one player because he has the strength to defend bigger guys and the speed, handles and shotmaking to score.
I absolutely guarantee - guarantee! - that Jose Calderon would start throwing down dunks over every RealGM poster.
You're talking about a starting point guard in the NBA. The dude is a top-30 point guard in the best basketball league in the world.
And you feel some amateurs could beat him because he "excels best in an organized game"?
Sit down, kid.
Yup this is as dumb as we get. Jose would destroy fools
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people act like scal shouldnt of been in the league of course he can beat regular guys at a game
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people act like scal shouldnt of been in the league of course he can beat regular guys at a game