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With BC handling the chores can we target a Hollinger-type?

Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 10:35 pm
by Double Helix
Just throwing this out there for discussion. Not every analytic nerd out there is capable of dealing with all aspects of the basketball empire that's been created here in Toronto. It's probably why MLSE grew as impressed with BC as they did. They like how he handles the off the court operations. If we can't attract a well-rounded, reasonably experienced candidate like Masai or Pritchard does BC's role allow us to go after more of a Hollinger-type that otherwise may have seemed too green and specialized for the big chair? Does today's news allow us to now target some younger, analytic-types who seemed too specialized before?

Re: If BC handles the chores can we go after an analytics-he

Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 10:38 pm
by Dr Octagon
Just hire RealGM Raptors Forums to be the GM.

We'll Championship this soon.

Re: If BC handles the chores can we go after an analytics-he

Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 10:41 pm
by S.W.A.N
I absolutely would like to go after a GM that is going to incorporate analytics into his decision making process but I think its silly to assume BC still being part of the organization would effect who we choose as GM...

BC is moving on. This 'President' is a basically empty title. His main job description is: Go find a new job ASAP

Re: With BC handling the chores can we target a Hollinger-ty

Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 10:49 pm
by Mr.Raptorsingh
What's Supersub up to these days?

Re: With BC handling the chores can we target a Hollinger-ty

Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 10:52 pm
by WhatsaTDot
BorisDK1 for Raptors consultant.

Re: With BC handling the chores can we target a Hollinger-ty

Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 11:21 pm
by kidr1211
It seems that the new trend is to hire analytics background GMs. I wouldn't mind one for this team at all. Although if we do get an analytics crazy GM, rudy gay and DD might run him insane.

Re: If BC handles the chores can we go after an analytics-he

Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 11:25 pm
by ForeverTFC
S.W.A.N wrote:I absolutely would like to go after a GM that is going to incorporate analytics into his decision making process but I think its silly to assume BC still being part of the organization would effect who we choose as GM...

BC is moving on. This 'President' is a basically empty title. His main job description is: Go find a new job ASAP


He has a multi-year deal.

Re: With BC handling the chores can we target a Hollinger-ty

Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 11:28 pm
by onions17
Don't we have one of those guys already?

Re: With BC handling the chores can we target a Hollinger-ty

Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 11:30 pm
by Basketball_Jones
Somebody's gotta put that ghosting stuff to good use

Re: With BC handling the chores can we target a Hollinger-ty

Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 11:33 pm
by Totem
WhatsaTDot wrote:BorisDK1 for Raptors consultant.


Well to be fair he was right about both Amir and Bargs.

Re: With BC handling the chores can we target a Hollinger-ty

Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 11:39 pm
by Totem
100% zach lowe, that guy is a basketball genius.

Re: If BC handles the chores can we go after an analytics-he

Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 11:47 pm
by S.W.A.N
ForeverTFC wrote:
S.W.A.N wrote:I absolutely would like to go after a GM that is going to incorporate analytics into his decision making process but I think its silly to assume BC still being part of the organization would effect who we choose as GM...

BC is moving on. This 'President' is a basically empty title. His main job description is: Go find a new job ASAP


He has a multi-year deal.



Says who ?

Only thing mentioned that I have seen is that his option has been picked up. Nothing about a new deal

Re: If BC handles the chores can we go after an analytics-he

Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 11:48 pm
by Wo1verine
S.W.A.N wrote:
ForeverTFC wrote:
S.W.A.N wrote:I absolutely would like to go after a GM that is going to incorporate analytics into his decision making process but I think its silly to assume BC still being part of the organization would effect who we choose as GM...

BC is moving on. This 'President' is a basically empty title. His main job description is: Go find a new job ASAP


He has a multi-year deal.



Says who ?

Only thing mentioned that I have seen is that his option has been picked up. Nothing about a new deal

Says TL on PTS.

Re: If BC handles the chores can we go after an analytics-he

Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 11:49 pm
by Sherlock
S.W.A.N wrote:I absolutely would like to go after a GM that is going to incorporate analytics into his decision making process but I think its silly to assume BC still being part of the organization would effect who we choose as GM...

BC is moving on. This 'President' is a basically empty title. His main job description is: Go find a new job ASAP


I agree with this that BC is almost certainly not going to be here long term, but presumably if this is a structure that TL is comfortable with, he could still hire someone else (or move someone within the organization like Stefanski) to become the new President of the Raptors while leaving our new "rain-man" savant to manage the on-court product.

Re: With BC handling the chores can we target a Hollinger-ty

Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 11:51 pm
by HighOctane
WhatsaTDot wrote:BorisDK1 for Raptors consultant.


I'll give an ol' fashioned +1 for this.

Re: With BC handling the chores can we target a Hollinger-ty

Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 11:52 pm
by WhatsaTDot
Totem wrote:
WhatsaTDot wrote:BorisDK1 for Raptors consultant.


Well to be fair he was right about both Amir and Bargs.


And many others including Ross. I was actually being serious.

Re: With BC handling the chores can we target a Hollinger-ty

Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 11:55 pm
by ash_k
No thanks!
Unless you are telling me that :
Analytics could have predicted that players like Mark Gasol would lose "50" pounds and become such a force.
that Analytics could have predicted that players like Z-Bo would finally get his acts together and focus on basketball "to boost up his PER"
That analytics could have predicted that players like Conley would have been such late-bloomer.

Use analytics to monitor what players could improve and work on, nothing else!! No Hollinger here please!

Re: If BC handles the chores can we go after an analytics-he

Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 11:59 pm
by ForeverTFC
S.W.A.N wrote:
ForeverTFC wrote:
S.W.A.N wrote:I absolutely would like to go after a GM that is going to incorporate analytics into his decision making process but I think its silly to assume BC still being part of the organization would effect who we choose as GM...

BC is moving on. This 'President' is a basically empty title. His main job description is: Go find a new job ASAP


He has a multi-year deal.



Says who ?

Only thing mentioned that I have seen is that his option has been picked up. Nothing about a new deal


Leiweke on Prime Time Sports said this was a multi-year deal.

Hence why the Tennebaum meddling angle doesn't make sense. There is something else going on here.

Re: If BC handles the chores can we go after an analytics-he

Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 12:07 am
by S.W.A.N
ForeverTFC wrote:
S.W.A.N wrote:
ForeverTFC wrote:
He has a multi-year deal.



Says who ?

Only thing mentioned that I have seen is that his option has been picked up. Nothing about a new deal


Leiweke on Prime Time Sports said this was a multi-year deal.

Hence why the Tennebaum meddling angle doesn't make sense. There is something else going on here.


That is interesting.

I suppose it makes sense. They probably were not going to give him his old salary so instead of picking up option created new deal...

Still fact remains that this is likely not a long term gig for BC. He wants to be the man and a decision maker... He and TL both have said that he is looking for new job