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Raps' Official 2013 Offseason Transaction Idea Thread, Pt. 2

Posted: Tue Jun 4, 2013 9:26 pm
by Rhettmatic
Part two of the thread that started here:

viewtopic.php?f=32&t=1236737

All the below info is care of the diligent Rapsobsessed7:

2013/2014 Toronto Raptors Salary Cap
Rudy Gay
    $17,888,932
Andrea Bargnani
    $10,750,000
DeMar Derozan
    $9,500,000
Landry Fields
    $6,250,000
Amir Johnson
    $6,500,000
Kyle Lowry
    $6,210,000
Linas Kleiza
    $4,600,000
Jonas Val
    $3,526,440
Aaron Gray
    $2,690,875
Terrence Ross
    $2,678,640
John Lucas III
    $1,567,500 (Team Option)
Quincy Acy
    $788,872

= 72,951,259


Owed Draft Picks

2013 first round draft pick to Oklahoma City
Toronto's own 2013 1st round pick to Oklahoma City via Houston (Top-3 Protected and 15-30 Protected in the 2013 Draft, top-2 protected and 15-30 protected in 2014, top-2 protected and 15-30 protected in 2015, top-1 Protected and 15-30 protected in 2016, top-1 protected and 15-30 Protected in 2017 and unprotected in the 2018 Draft. [Houston-Toronto, 7/11/2012 and then Houston-Oklahoma City, 10/27/2012]

2013 second round draft pick to Memphis
Toronto's own 2013 2nd round pick to Memphis. [Detroit-Memphis-Toronto, 1/30/2012]

2014 second round draft pick to Phoenix
The least favorable of Toronto's own 2014 2nd round pick (Top-36 Protected) and Sacramento's 2014 2nd round pick (provided Sacramento's pick is #31-#55) to Phoenix. If Both picks do not fall outside of their protection, then Toronto's obligation to Phoenix is extinguished. [Phoenix-Toronto, 2/21/2013]

2016 second round draft pick to Memphis
Toronto's own 2016 2nd round pick to Memphis. [Memphis - Toronto, 7/9/2009]


Other stuff:

http://www.shamsports.com/
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine

Trade away!

Re: Raps' Official 2013 Offseason Transaction Idea Thread, P

Posted: Tue Jun 4, 2013 10:12 pm
by IntricateOh25
What about a 3-way trade involving:

To Raptors: Thomas Robinson
To Houston: 1st Round Pick (from 3rd team) or a TPE
To 3rd Team (Utah, ATL, Detroit): Kyle Lowry

It allows Houston to free up more cap space, provides the third team a solid point guard on a cheap, expiring contract and it gives us a player to groom in a rebuilding season.

Re: Raps' Official 2013 Offseason Transaction Idea Thread, P

Posted: Tue Jun 4, 2013 10:24 pm
by sweetcity
Id like to see up nab Austin Rivers while his value is low. Monta Ellis has a bad first year in the league as well. Rivers will be a great player at some point I think.

Houston In - Quincy Acy
Houton Out - Thomas Robinson

New Orleans In - Kyle Lowry + Aaron Gray + Houston 2nd
New Orleans Out - Rivers + Vasquez + Jason Smith

Raptors In - Smith + Rivers + Vasquez + Robinson
Raptors Out - Acy + Lowry + Gray

Re: Raps' Official 2013 Offseason Transaction Idea Thread, P

Posted: Tue Jun 4, 2013 10:36 pm
by #9
sweetcity wrote:Id like to see up nab Austin Rivers while his value is low. Monta Ellis has a bad first year in the league as well. Rivers will be a great player at some point I think.

Houston In - Quincy Acy
Houton Out - Thomas Robinson

New Orleans In - Kyle Lowry + Aaron Gray + Houston 2nd
New Orleans Out - Rivers + Vasquez + Jason Smith

Raptors In - Smith + Rivers + Vasquez + Robinson
Raptors Out - Acy + Lowry + Gray


Austin Rivers is a "scoring" high-volume pg who looks for his shot first. No thanks

Re: Raps' Official 2013 Offseason Transaction Idea Thread, P

Posted: Tue Jun 4, 2013 10:40 pm
by TheGoodDoctor
I would be willing to trade Acy for Rivers...if that.

Re: Raps' Official 2013 Offseason Transaction Idea Thread, P

Posted: Tue Jun 4, 2013 10:52 pm
by sweetcity
TheGoodDoctor wrote:I would be willing to trade Acy for Rivers...if that.


Ya, he is just like Monta Ellis, Id take Monta Ellis for Acy any day

Re: Raps' Official 2013 Offseason Transaction Idea Thread, P

Posted: Tue Jun 4, 2013 10:59 pm
by Roland Brice
I think this scenario helps all teams involved while also allowing us to completely tear the roster down.

First and foremost, amnesty Bargnani.

Trade 1: TOR/BKN/HOU

From TOR: Rudy Gay
To TOR: Kris Humphries (exp), Tyshawn Taylor, Marshon Brooks, Thomas Robinson, BKN 2013 Pick (22)


We cut out a massive salary for an expiring, young prospects and a pick.

From BKN: Kris Humphries, Tyshawn Taylor, Marshon Brooks, Tornike Shengelia, 2013 Pick (22)
To BKN: Rudy Gay


They add another piece to their maxed out roster. They can put a lineup out there of Williams/Johnson/Gay/Wallace/Lopez.

From HOU: Thomas Robinson
To HOU: Tornike Shengelia


They cut Robinson's salary in their pursuit of Howard.


Trade 2: TOR/CHI

From TOR: DeMar DeRozan
To TOR: Richard Hamilton (exp), Kirk Hinrich (exp)


We unload DeMar for 2 expirings.

From CHI: Richard Hamilton, Kirk Hinrich
To CHI: DeMar DeRozan


They get a 6th man to come off the bench behind Jimmy Butler.


Trade 3: TOR/LAL/OKC

From TOR: Amir Johnson, Kyle Lowry, Landry Fields
To TOR: Thabo Sefolosha (exp), Chris Duhon (exp), Jeremy Lamb, Nick Collison


We unload the last of our long term deals and acquire another prospect in Lamb.

From LAL: Pau Gasol, Chris Duhon
To LAL: Kendrick Perkins, Amir Johnson, Kyle Lowry, Landry Fields


They take on two bad deals, but also two very good high PER players in Johnson and Lowry. Essentially this is a reload scenario where they remove an issue in the Gasol/Howard debacle while strengthening their roster. Lowry & Nash/Bryant/MWP/Johnson/Howard & Perkins.

From OKC: Kendrick Perkins, Thabo Sefolosha, Nick Collison, Jeremy Lamb
To OKC: Pau Gasol


They unload Perkins and get back another (semi) star in Gasol to make a healthy run at the title next year with a big 3 of their own.


We move forward with the following roster (minus expirings). The largest contracts are Jonas/T-Rob, each at under 4 million annually.

Taylor
Ross/Lamb
Brooks
Robinson/Acy
Valanciunas

+BKN Pick (22 this year)

Re: Raps' Official 2013 Offseason Transaction Idea Thread, P

Posted: Tue Jun 4, 2013 11:06 pm
by TheGoodDoctor
sweetcity wrote:
TheGoodDoctor wrote:I would be willing to trade Acy for Rivers...if that.


Ya, he is just like Monta Ellis, Id take Monta Ellis for Acy any day


I want whatever you're smoking.

Re: Raps' Official 2013 Offseason Transaction Idea Thread, P

Posted: Wed Jun 5, 2013 1:20 am
by RaptorLakerJay
Kevin Love, and Luke Ridnour for Terrence Ross, and Bargnani.

Re: Raps' Official 2013 Offseason Transaction Idea Thread, P

Posted: Wed Jun 5, 2013 1:53 am
by DreamTeam09
RaptorLakerJay wrote:Kevin Love, and Luke Ridnour for Terrence Ross, and Bargnani.


We'd have to add a pick but I'd still do it.

Re: Raps' Official 2013 Offseason Transaction Idea Thread, P

Posted: Wed Jun 5, 2013 1:53 am
by TheGoodDoctor
RaptorLakerJay wrote:Kevin Love, and Luke Ridnour for Terrence Ross, and Bargnani.


Raptors say NO!

You forgot to make your post green font too.

Re: Raps' Official 2013 Offseason Transaction Idea Thread, P

Posted: Wed Jun 5, 2013 2:36 am
by Saul Goodman
How do we feel about a deal like this.



To Minny:
Marshon Brooks
#23
Gay
Derozan


to Brooklyn:
Kirelenko


to Toronto:
Derrck Williams
#9(Shabazz)
Humphries



we clear the decks.

Re: Raps' Official 2013 Offseason Transaction Idea Thread, P

Posted: Wed Jun 5, 2013 2:37 am
by RaptorNews
I like that deal for us, but I would want that second pick
RaptorLakerJay wrote:Kevin Love, and Luke Ridnour for Terrence Ross, and Bargnani.


Timberwolves would take this in a second, good work

Re: Raps' Official 2013 Offseason Transaction Idea Thread, P

Posted: Wed Jun 5, 2013 2:49 am
by Marvin Martian
My tank plan:
Terrance Ross to NOH for Austin Rivers
Landry Fields to PHX for Micheal Beasley
Demar Derozan to MIL for Drew Gooden and MIL 2014 protected pick
Amir Johnson to OKC for Kendrick Perkins + Perry Jones (or at least hope Amir gets hurt)
Buy a late 2013 pick for Archie Goodwin


Lowry/Lucas
Rivers/Goodwin
Gay/Beasley
Gooden/PJ
Perkins/JV


That team fails to win 30 games. Thoughts?

Re: Raps' Official 2013 Offseason Transaction Idea Thread, P

Posted: Wed Jun 5, 2013 3:36 am
by DreamTeam09
Bargnani + Ross + pick for LAM

Bargnani + Ross + pick for Love

fields + lowry + ross for Vasques + Ryan Anderson

Bargnani + ross + pick for Al jeff

Fields + ross or pick for Paul milsap

Re: Raps' Official 2013 Offseason Transaction Idea Thread, P

Posted: Wed Jun 5, 2013 3:41 am
by SaveTheHens
My "accelerated" build plan.

Toronto Trades: 2014 1st round pick
Toronto Recieves: 2013 10th & 13th pick

Dallas Trades: 2013 13th pick & Shawn Marion
Dallas Receives: 2014 Raptors 1st round pick

Portland Trades: 2013 10th pick
Portland Receives: Shawn Marion

It really relies on Dallas thinking the Raptors will suck in 2014 & not make the playoffs, and Portland not valuing the 10th pick at all. Not the most likely scenario but I would give up next years pick for 2 picks this year.

Re: Raps' Official 2013 Offseason Transaction Idea Thread, P

Posted: Wed Jun 5, 2013 3:41 am
by MNRunLeft
DreamTeam09 wrote:
RaptorLakerJay wrote:Kevin Love, and Luke Ridnour for Terrence Ross, and Bargnani.


We'd have to add a pick but I'd still do it.


Have to add a lot more than a pick... Wolves have little reason to trade Love unless they are blown away by an offer this would quickly get the dial tone.

Re: Raps' Official 2013 Offseason Transaction Idea Thread, P

Posted: Wed Jun 5, 2013 3:47 am
by TheGoodDoctor
SaveTheHens wrote:My "accelerated" build plan.

Toronto Trades: 2014 1st round pick
Toronto Recieves: 2013 10th & 13th pick

Dallas Trades: 2013 13th pick & Shawn Marion
Dallas Receives: 2014 Raptors 1st round pick

Portland Trades: 2013 10th pick
Portland Receives: Shawn Marion

It really relies on Dallas thinking the Raptors will suck in 2014 & not make the playoffs, and Portland not valuing the 10th pick at all. Not the most likely scenario but I would give up next years pick for 2 picks this year.


HELLLLLLLLLL NO!!!!

Re: Raps' Official 2013 Offseason Transaction Idea Thread, P

Posted: Wed Jun 5, 2013 3:51 am
by TheGoodDoctor
RaptorNews wrote:I like that deal for us, but I would want that second pick
RaptorLakerJay wrote:Kevin Love, and Luke Ridnour for Terrence Ross, and Bargnani.


Timberwolves would take this in a second, good work


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Re: Raps' Official 2013 Offseason Transaction Idea Thread, P

Posted: Wed Jun 5, 2013 3:54 am
by RaptorNews
Obviously not