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Woj: BKN closer to Lowry deal; NY wants back in? (P54)
Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 2:35 am
by Rapsobsessed7
since the last thread reached its 100 page limit
The Knicks refused a Raptors proposal that would've included Iman Shumpert and Felton, sources told Yahoo Sports. WIthout a first-round pick or Shumpert, there is no traction for a deal. The Knicks have no appetite for including Shumpert or rookie Tim Hardaway Jr. in a package.
Several teams are pursuing Lowry, but the Knicks' most direct competition for him could come from the Brooklyn Nets, who are also exploring the possibility of a deal, league sources said. Brooklyn has resisted the inclusion of its 2020 first-round pick in a package, nor one of its top young players, including rookie Mason Plumlee, sources said.
Within the Knicks, there's hesitance on including the draft pick, but there's no chance a deal for Lowry could get done without it, sources said. Nevertheless, there's still doubt on how long New York will keep a pick on the table, sources said.
Toronto officials have been scouting and calling European contacts on Bojan Bogdanovic, a 24-year-old shooting guard with whom the Nets own the rights, league sources told Yahoo Sports.
lol worthy below
Knicks owner Jim Dolan is sensitive to the public perception that Toronto general manger Masai Ujiri bamboozled New York in the Carmelo Anthony trade, and the chance of getting panned for giving up too much in a deal for Lowry has become a hurdle in these talks, league sources told Yahoo Sports.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/knicks-pur ... 33654.html
Re: Woj: Knicks Turned Down Felton/Shump for Lowry
Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 2:36 am
by mtcan
New Knicks GM isn't as dumb as we thought...
Re: Woj: Knicks Turned Down Felton/Shump for Lowry
Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 2:37 am
by TCHOKE
jakes on dolan
Re: Woj: Knicks Turned Down Felton/Shump for Lowry
Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 2:38 am
by changes
Wait, so they wanted to trade Felton straight up for Lowry? lol
Re: Woj: Knicks Turned Down Felton/Shump for Lowry
Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 2:38 am
by mtcan
TCHOKE wrote:jakes on dolan
Sure...Knicks lose Felton for a few weeks...Prigioni is all they got left at PG...Knicks continue to lose...surrender a top 5 pick to Denver...Dolan still looks bad.
Truth is...Dolan got bamboozled twice by Masai.
Re: Woj: Knicks Turned Down Felton/Shump for Lowry
Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 2:39 am
by KingstonRaptors
That's fine, we are in no hurry to trade an expiring for garbage.
Re: Woj: Knicks Turned Down Felton/Shump for Lowry
Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 2:39 am
by Rapsobsessed7
changes wrote:Wait, so they wanted to trade Felton straight up for Lowry? lol
i think the Knicks have a offer of
Felton + World Peace + 2018 1st
on the table and i believe Masai is waiting to get something better.
Re: Woj: Knicks Turned Down Felton/Shump for Lowry
Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 2:39 am
by ForeverTFC
The Knicks sure love overrating their prospects. Felton/Shumpert too much? We're basically doing them a favour.
Re: Woj: Knicks Turned Down Felton/Shump for Lowry
Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 2:40 am
by changes
Rapsobsessed7 wrote:changes wrote:Wait, so they wanted to trade Felton straight up for Lowry? lol
i think the Knicks have a offer of
Felton + World Peace + 2018 1st
on the table and i believe Masai is waiting to get something better.
Oh I see. Still garbage. Pass.
Re: Woj: Knicks Turned Down Felton/Shump for Lowry
Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 2:40 am
by jigga_man
Nets and the Knicks want Lowry but don't want to give up any young players not matter how average they are or draft picks? Were they hoping BC would still pick up the phone?
Re: Woj: Knicks Turned Down Felton/Shump for Lowry
Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 2:40 am
by rapluva
mtcan wrote:New Knicks GM isn't as dumb as we thought...
technically, the article states he would have done the deal, except he's afraid what others will say about the two trades made with Masai already...
Masai is the smart one here, he's always said, he likes to be patient.. he won't just give away his players, if he needs to, there's 28 other teams he can contact to to just give Kyle away for nothing..so there's no rush, as soon as we hit Sunday, Dolan might be singing to a new tune and might give up more than just Shump, and a pick..
Re: Woj: Knicks Turned Down Felton/Shump for Lowry
Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 2:40 am
by ForeverTFC
Rapsobsessed7 wrote:changes wrote:Wait, so they wanted to trade Felton straight up for Lowry? lol
i think the Knicks have a offer of
Felton + World Peace + 2018 1st
on the table and i believe Masai is waiting to get something better.
Terrible offer. Multiyear contracts with 0 value around the league are not enough for a 2018 pick.
Re: Woj: Knicks Turned Down Felton/Shump for Lowry
Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 2:42 am
by Saciid11
mtcan wrote:New Knicks GM isn't as dumb as we thought...
They will cave in as the loses pile up .... Shump or TIm Hardway Jr + future 1rd for Lowry ...
Re: Woj: Knicks Turned Down Felton/Shump for Lowry
Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 2:42 am
by rapluva
mtcan wrote:TCHOKE wrote:jakes on dolan
Sure...Knicks lose Felton for a few weeks...Prigioni is all they got left at PG...Knicks continue to lose...surrender a top 5 pick to Denver...Dolan still looks bad.
Truth is...Dolan got bamboozled twice by Masai.
I think they also have Beno Udrich, which is good enough to bring the ball forward, although, better point guards will eat him up on the other end.
Re: Woj: Knicks Turned Down Felton/Shump for Lowry
Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 2:42 am
by UnderdogRaptors
they can keep the fat little turd Felton and give the Nuggets a high lottery pick if they wish.
Re: Woj: Knicks Turned Down Felton/Shump for Lowry
Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 2:43 am
by Thesachman19
Lowry is a stud - Knicks would get the better end of the deal if it was just Shump + Felton
Re: Woj: Knicks Turned Down Felton/Shump for Lowry
Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 2:43 am
by Bran Fast Hands
changes wrote:Wait, so they wanted to trade Felton straight up for Lowry? lol
Thats exactly what they wanted to do, they were like screw the CBA
Re: Woj: Knicks Turned Down Felton/Shump for Lowry
Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 2:43 am
by suntzuballin
Rapsobsessed7 wrote:changes wrote:Wait, so they wanted to trade Felton straight up for Lowry? lol
i think the Knicks have a offer of
Felton + World Peace + 2018 1st
on the table and i believe Masai is waiting to get something better.
lol what joke of a deal
Re: Woj: Knicks Turned Down Felton/Shump for Lowry
Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 2:43 am
by Kabookalu
mtcan wrote:New Knicks GM isn't as dumb as we thought...
Walsh wasn't either, he was actually a good GM for New York until Dolan forced him to give up the farm for Melo (although I have a feeling you're talking about Glen Grunwald). And this time around it seems like Dolan's influence is being restricted because they don't want him ruining a trade again. If it was up to him we might already have a trade.
Re: Woj: Knicks Turned Down Felton/Shump for Lowry
Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 2:44 am
by suntzuballin
just wait till knicks lose and melo starts crying and leaks out maybe leaving