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Raptors Ruined Valanciunas' Athleticism 

Post#1 » by JV4MVP » Sat Apr 25, 2015 1:44 am

Here is a mixtape of a quick-footed, high jumping, rookie JV. The Raptors trainers made him too bulky and there went his quickness and fluidity. The big question is whether a weight loss and some plyometrics would help to regain any of this athleticism?

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Post#2 » by RaptorsLife » Sat Apr 25, 2015 1:50 am

Excuses your username will never happen
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Post#3 » by Yorkex » Sat Apr 25, 2015 1:50 am

Who ruined his heart and hustle ...at some point the excuses have to stop
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Post#4 » by Airball Salmons » Sat Apr 25, 2015 1:55 am

You don't think its the excess drinking and driving, fatherhood at a young age that's causing his weight issues?
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Post#5 » by JV4MVP » Sat Apr 25, 2015 1:59 am

Airball Salmons wrote:You don't think its the excess drinking and driving, fatherhood at a young age that's causing his weight issues?


They made him bulk up the off season that he was the summer league MVP. That added muscle took away his athleticism big time:

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Post#6 » by MVP- » Sat Apr 25, 2015 2:00 am

JV4MVP wrote:
Airball Salmons wrote:You don't think its the excess drinking and driving, fatherhood at a young age that's causing his weight issues?


They made him bulk up the off season that he was the summer league MVP. That added muscle took away his athleticism big time:

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He's not even remotely close to that size at this point of the season. Stop the excuses.
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Post#7 » by Thespianoid » Sat Apr 25, 2015 2:08 am

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JV4MVP wrote:
Airball Salmons wrote:You don't think its the excess drinking and driving, fatherhood at a young age that's causing his weight issues?


They made him bulk up the off season that he was the summer league MVP. That added muscle took away his athleticism big time:

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He's not even remotely close to that size at this point of the season. Stop the excuses.


You're right. He's not.

However, in your opinion, he is noticeably slower than his rookie year, is he not?
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Post#8 » by JV4MVP » Sat Apr 25, 2015 2:13 am

Thespianoid wrote:
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MVP- wrote:
JV4MVP wrote:
They made him bulk up the off season that he was the summer league MVP. That added muscle took away his athleticism big time:

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He's not even remotely close to that size at this point of the season. Stop the excuses.
You're right. He's not.

However, in your opinion, he is noticeably slower than his rookie year, is he not?


He is way slower now and can't dunk like he used to during his rookie year.
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Post#9 » by Hero » Sat Apr 25, 2015 2:14 am

Do you still think JV is better than Anthony Davis btw?
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Post#10 » by Thespianoid » Sat Apr 25, 2015 2:14 am

JV4MVP wrote:
Thespianoid wrote:
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MVP- wrote:
He's not even remotely close to that size at this point of the season. Stop the excuses.
You're right. He's not.

However, in your opinion, he is noticeably slower than his rookie year, is he not?


He is way slower now and can't dunk like he used to during his rookie year.


I know you think that.

I think it's also important to understand what the detractors think, where they think the problems lie. In order to move forward and fix the problems
Clementine9 wrote:Missed shots are unfortunate, but it's the trends throughout the game that matter.

Choker wrote:The swing in how Raptors fans have supported and turned on Powell is a good case study of human behavior.
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Post#11 » by raptor jesus » Sat Apr 25, 2015 2:15 am

Jonas was never going to get by solely on athleticism in the NBA. What he needs to do is develop some quick hitting scoop and flick shots around the rim to neutralize shot blocking, instead of trying to dunk everything.
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Post#12 » by JV4MVP » Sat Apr 25, 2015 2:19 am

Hero wrote:Do you still think JV is better than Anthony Davis btw?


No although I don't remember saying that
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Post#13 » by wolfv » Sat Apr 25, 2015 2:21 am

Don't insult the word athleticism by putting it in the same sentence as JV
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Post#14 » by J-Roc » Sat Apr 25, 2015 2:25 am

I was just thinking today about how Gortat is able to explode to the rim on a dump off, where JV is slow as molasses.
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Post#15 » by faze » Sat Apr 25, 2015 2:35 am

I don't think the athleticism is the biggest issue. I think Casey destroyed his confidence by benching him after every little mistake he made rather than letting him play through it. Val plays like he's been neutered.
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Post#16 » by Got Nuffin » Sat Apr 25, 2015 2:36 am

the Raptors coaching asked him to bulk up like any young big man. Jonas turned up fat with zero conditioning. The guy is slow as a snail these days.

He has no one to blame but himself.
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Post#17 » by pufonD » Sat Apr 25, 2015 2:40 am

I agree with that, even when he was playing in Lithuania being quick, tall and being able to roll to the basket quickly were his strengths. I think Raptors staff were probably thinking of remaking him into a hard defensive/postup/rebounding big, something similar to big Al, but the truth is he is a completely opposite player..
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Post#18 » by WhatYaWant » Sat Apr 25, 2015 2:43 am

he was never athletic i thought he looked like a big gumby wen we drafted him
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Post#19 » by Saciid11 » Sat Apr 25, 2015 2:49 am

Excuses Excuses Excuses ... I hope JV is gone this offseason so we don't have to hear about million excuses made for JV by obsessed fans ..
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Post#20 » by Inevitable » Sat Apr 25, 2015 2:51 am

Saciid11 wrote:Excuses Excuses Excuses ... I hope JV is gone this offseason so we don't have to hear about million excuses made for JV by obsessed fans ..

How's Casey's coaching been this series?

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