If you were the GM how would you rebuild this team?

[TooBad]

If you were the GM how would you rebuild this team?Who Would you Keep? Who would you Trade/Dump?

For Me:

Keep for now trade at a later time: Derozan/Ibaka

Keep for a rebuild: Joseph/Powell/Poeltl/Siakam

Potential Trade Throw-ins: Wright/Bruno/Bebe

Trade/Release/Do not Sign: Jonas/Patterson/Tucker/Carroll/Lowry/Casey and coaching staff

Somewhere down the line I would attempt to trade Derozan/Ibaka for Wiggins and or picks.

[BDDray420]

Tank it up baby

Poetl
Bruno
Siakam
Powell
Wright

[VancouverRaps]

I'd go full Hinkie

[TooBad]

I'd go full Hinkie

The problem with that is that there are too many years without top talent. Look how many picks haven't panned out for Hinkie (Embiid constantly injured, Noel was dumped,Okafur and carter-Williams looks like busts,Ben simmons injured,etc). You just have to be terrible in that one year where there is a franchise player.

[DJ_RnC]

PRIORITY #1 = NEW COACHING STAFF
Re-sign Ibaka, Tucker.
Let Lowry and Patterson walk.
Somehow get rid of Carroll.
Trade JV and Cojo.
Acquire replacement PG who will actually move the ball, shooters to surround Derozan with via FA, trade, draft.

Playmaking PG/Delon
Derozan/Norm
3&D who can actually do his job/Tucker
Ibaka/???
Defensive C

Try your chances with a retooled roster with a new coach and new system. If that doesn't work out, full out tank mode in 2018-2019.

[Moose23]

Sign and trade lowry.
Sign and trade ibaka
Trade demar.
Do anything with carroll.

I am ok with tucker and pat staying.

Hire messina as coach.

Evalute 1 season.

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[vexen]

Tank like Philly has for the next 5 years till you land a real talent like ben simmons and joel embiid.. it's a long and ugly road but it's the only way. Lebrons son is currently 14 this is how far you should be looking ahead. ZION WILLIAMSON is also 16

What would try to do is sign antetokounmpo who I actually know for a fact would love to come Toronto, he will look pretty good next to Wiggins

[Zeno]

I'd resign only Ibaka but my offer would likely be too little to get it done and he might not want to stay anyway since we'd be taking a step back. I'd offer 4 years 70 million. Tucker and Lowry are too old to keep around. Patterson I'd keep on a cheap cheap deal but again probably not enough for him to want to stay. I'd look to trade Demar if he didn't want to rebuild. Look for a prospect and top 10 pick. I'd wait out Carroll's contract next year if no one interested in taking it because playing him is not conducive to winning and that's what we're after.

[XxIronChainzxX]

The ideal is to fleece teams for pick swaps, and hope you luck into a great one. Otherwise there are no easy answers. Blowing up this team means multiple years of sucking before you get good enough to draft high.

I'd go full Hinkie

The problem with that is that there are too many years without top talent. Look how many picks haven't panned out for Hinkie (Embiid constantly injured, Noel was dumped,Okafur and carter-Williams looks like busts,Ben simmons injured,etc). You just have to be terrible in that one year where there is a franchise player.

People misunderstand Hinkie. His tank strategy isn't to be awful. It's to stash players. The trap for a lottery team isn't that you can never get a superstar. It's that getting a superstar can immediately punt you from a good draft spot without enough young talent on your team to be competitive and without good picks to make up the difference. That's how you step on the treadmill - look at us with Bosh or Vince.

Hinkie stashed players away. He rolled the dice on players who wouldn't play for a year in the hope that i) they'd play as good as ever but ii) he'd get to sneak in an extra tank year. It's the reverse of what the Spurs lucked into with TD.

[Fairview4Life]

I'd go full Hinkie

The problem with that is that there are too many years without top talent. Look how many picks haven't panned out for Hinkie (Embiid constantly injured, Noel was dumped,Okafur and carter-Williams looks like busts,Ben simmons injured,etc). You just have to be terrible in that one year where there is a franchise player.

And be good enough at scouting that you take Kawhi or Giannis first overall.

[mtcan]

Demar to the Lakers for either Brandon Ingram or their top 3 pick in this upcoming draft (should they get to keep it), either Jordan Clarkson or Julius Randle and filler. Lakers do this because it gives them an all-star to sell to the fans, and will entice Paul George to sign in LA as a free agent.

Dump Cory Joseph and JV for cap relief (or at least smaller, moveable contracts) and draft picks.

Bye bye Lowry, Patterson, Ibaka and Tucker

Fire Casey. Let Stackhouse try to work his D-League magic with a group of young guys.

If all works out as above:
2017-18 Raptors:
Delon Wright/Fred VanVleet
Norman Powell/Jordan Clarkson
Brandon Ingram/Bruno Caboclo/Demarre Carroll
Pascal Siakam
Jakob Poeltl/Lucas Nogueira

[C_Money]

Masai isn't as dumb as this board. He's not going to tank just because we can't beat the Cavs.

[Double Helix]

Move on from Lowry if terms are outlandish. Move on from Patterson.

Sign Jeff Teague if Lowry terms are difficult to stomach. He's worse than Lowry in the regular season but is 2 years younger and had a better playoff against the Cavs.

Sign Serge Ibaka.

Trade Jonas Valanciunas and Cory Joseph and a pick if necessary for a star wing who fits in well next to Derozan and shoots a ton of 3s. This player would need to be special enough to offset the drop from Lowry down to Teague.

Hire the next Brad Stevens to coach a more diverse offensive team that runs its offence primarily through the two wings with Teague and Ibaka as 15ppg complimentary pieces.

Move Norm to a 6 man role.

Start Poeltl at C.

Make Siakam the backup PF.


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[RaptorsLife]

Masai isn't as dumb as this board. He's not going to tank just because we can't beat the Cavs.

He also isn't dumb enough to go into the tax for a team that isn't competitive against the cavs

[theaub]

- Fire Casey
- Offer Lowry something similar to DeMar (if he wants more, he can go, if he takes it, he probably still has decent value in a year or two if we continue to stagnate and we can get assets for him)
- Launch Ibaka/Patterson into the sun (although optimally, S+T to try to get some sort of asset back)
- Bring back Tucker
- Pray that you can somehow find an actual 3/D guy and then do whatever is necessary to get Carroll's contract off the books
- Trade Joseph, find a backup PG that can shoot the three

I don't see the point in a full out tank at this point, although there's not a ton of runway left before it does become a more viable alternative. As I also don't see the point in becoming a tax payer, I think the best move is a quick re-tool and see if you can find a useful piece or two.

[-TheDocOfDenial]

Demar to the Lakers for either Brandon Ingram or their top 3 pick in this upcoming draft (should they get to keep it), either Jordan Clarkson or Julius Randle and filler. Lakers do this because it gives them an all-star to sell to the fans, and will entice Paul George to sign in LA as a free agent.

Dump Cory Joseph and JV for cap relief (or at least smaller, moveable contracts) and draft picks.

Bye bye Lowry, Patterson, Ibaka and Tucker

Fire Casey. Let Stackhouse try to work his D-League magic with a group of young guys.

If all works out as above:
2017-18 Raptors:
Delon Wright/Fred VanVleet
Norman Powell/Jordan Clarkson
Brandon Ingram/Bruno Caboclo/Demarre Carroll
Pascal Siakam
Jakob Poeltl/Lucas Nogueira

If you call magic and propose that he will laugh in your face and hang up. Demar is not worth ingram or the pick by its self lmao. Demar to the lakers at best gets you a top 15 protected pick and julius randle.

[dkb33]

Fire Casey and hire Stackhouse

Resign Lowry & Ibaka (Tucker if possible) but let Patterson walk.

Look at the trade market for picks/prospects/salary relief with JV/Carroll/Joseph

I would build around Ujiri - Stackhouse - Lowry - DeRozan - Ibaka - 905 guys with a full training camp and hopefully improved role players. Everyone wanting to break up a year in year out 50 win team for ping pong balls is crazy. The team finally has a legit 3rd option in Ibaka that they have craved for years. Stackhouse is worth a gamble and may bring a spark to the team. JV/Joseph should net you some pretty interesting pieces. Getting rid of Carroll will be tough but Ujiri did something similar with Bargnani and got value in return. Everyone just needs to take a deep breath. Now if Lowry/Ibaka walk then I would need to rethink everything I would want to do.

[Rapsalot]

First a GM or Pres has to decide are we standing pat with coaches? Then are we standing pat with most players? Last if both are a no I would tank.

If you decide to tank I would let Casey run out his contract you are already paying him but let him know ping pong balls are top priority. If he quits fine.

If you tank try and Sign and trade KLow and SI if possible? Trade everyone over $10 mil.
Sign 2pat and PJ to about $9 mil each. If they can get more or don't want to be leaders to young. Guys during the Tank/build let them go. Resign and extend NP now if you can

PG CoJo, DW, FVV. Look to draft this position in next 3 draft tanks.
SG NP, FA
SF try to Draft now, PJ,
PF. PS give him the keys, play BC, 2Pat
C. JP, LN, some vet for payday.

I do think JP , PS and NP can be starters in league on a good team if Tank nets you very good PG and SF then year 3 best player available. Need Def C to help JP long term. Try and compete for 2022.

[Zeno]

Move on from Lowry. Move on from Patterson.

Sign Jeff Teague.

Sign Serge Ibaka.

Trade Jonas Valanciunas and Cory Joseph and a pick if necessary for a star wing who fits in well next to Derozan and shoots a ton of 3s.

Hire the next Brad Stevens to coach a more diverse offensive team that runs its offence primarily through the two wings with Teague and Ibaka as 15ppg complimentary pieces.

Move Norm to a 6 man role.

Start Poeltl at C.

Make Siakam the backup PF.


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That team is winning 42 games at best. If I was still trying to compete and wanted to switch things up, maybe resign Lowry and trade Demar to the Clippers with Carroll and Joseph for a resigned Blake (if he agrees to come here) and a resigned JJ Reddick(if he agrees to come here). Yes the Clippers do that because Doc sucks as a GM.

I play Ibaka and Blake at the 4/5. It doesn't matter which is the 4 and 5. They can take turns. Use the MLE on Bojangles. Resign Tucker. Let Patterson walk.

But really I'd just choose to rebuild.

[BramptonYute]

What would try to do is sign antetokounmpo who I actually know for a fact would love to come Toronto, he will look pretty good next to Wiggins

how do you know?