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Woj: Celtics looking to land both Hayward and George
Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 6:43 pm
by nitrous
Re: Woj: Celtics looking to land both Hayward and George
Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 6:45 pm
by Johnny Bball
VinBaker6 wrote:Wake me up when the Celtics actually make a move.
Re: Woj: Celtics looking to land both Hayward and George
Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 6:48 pm
by dukes_wild
I swear when Woj writes these articles he just copy and pastes the one he wrote like 3 days ago about the same thing
Re: Woj: Celtics looking to land both Hayward and George
Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 6:48 pm
by RaptorsLife
If they do it. Good for them. Hell of move. Until they do it. Dust really
Re: Woj: Celtics looking to land both Hayward and George
Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 6:49 pm
by Raptorfan2012
Don't they pretty much play the same position? I mean, they can always try...
Re: Woj: Celtics looking to land both Hayward and George
Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 6:52 pm
by CoachJReturns
I'll believe it when I see it. That said, I hope it actually happens. Falling clearly a tier below another eastern conference team would make a rebuild a more logical path to take and an easier sell to fans. Still unlikely though.
Re: Woj: Celtics looking to land both Hayward and George
Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 6:52 pm
by PhilBlackson
Not enough to get past CLE but I'm sure the idea is to take the top spot once LBJ leaves next year since by acquiring George the Cavs won't have any real chance to win. I think if we were to bring back Kyle n Serge we could get to their level if we did some sort of S&T of JV and Corey for Millsap but our window would be smaller than theirs. We really don't have much a positive outlook for the next few years, I'd really rather we rebuild than try to work with a messed up foundation.
Re: Woj: Celtics looking to land both Hayward and George
Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 6:52 pm
by pbj
I'd be surprised if Hayward left Utah
Re: Woj: Celtics looking to land both Hayward and George
Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 6:54 pm
by gerrit4
Interesting. They'd have the assets to land a good big man as well to round out their roster. They'll have an excess of guards/small forwards. They could trade any of Jae Crowder, Marcus Smart, Terry Rozier, Jaylen Brown, in order to get a rebounding defensive big (kind of like Bogut was on the Warriors etc).
Oddly, I think JV would be really good on this team (he's used to sitting the 4th anyways), though I'm not sure there'd be enough of a match there in terms of trade assets. Looking at the Celtics roster, they'd either be giving too much or too little.
Maybe Jae Crowder & Tyler Zeller for JV?
Re: Woj: Celtics looking to land both Hayward and George
Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 6:54 pm
by Throwback24
Raptorfan2012 wrote:Don't they pretty much play the same position? I mean, they can always try...
They can both play off the ball... it's not like pairing Harden and DD.
Re: Woj: Celtics looking to land both Hayward and George
Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 6:54 pm
by RonaldArtest
Raptorfan2012 wrote:Don't they pretty much play the same position? I mean, they can always try...
Both guys have the size and skill set to play either wing position really, I don't see any problem at all.
Re: Woj: Celtics looking to land both Hayward and George
Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 6:54 pm
by ash_k
so PG13 and Hayward woud just watch IT take over in the 4th??...Gordon should be ok with it, I highly doubt PG13 would. Potential chemistry issues there
Re: Woj: Celtics looking to land both Hayward and George
Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 6:55 pm
by CoachD
I know Gordon will take a second banana role in a big market, but you are talking about 3 players with high usage rate that ALL want the ball.
I don't see it working
Re: Woj: Celtics looking to land both Hayward and George
Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 6:57 pm
by RaptorsLife
ash_k wrote:so PG13 and Hayward woud just watch IT take over in the 4th??...Gordon should be ok with it, I highly doubt PG13 would. Potential chemistry issues there
Paul George is the least clutch player
Re: Woj: Celtics looking to land both Hayward and George
Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 6:57 pm
by Asif16
Don't see it happening. Ainge is cheap hoarder. He thought Minny gave up "alot" to get Jimmy Butler.
If Ainge thinks the Wolves gave up a lot to get Jimmy Butler, you can just tell that he's offering little of value for both PG and Butler
Re: Woj: Celtics looking to land both Hayward and George
Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 6:59 pm
by PhilBlackson
For everyone talking about usage and IT taking over....
1. Pretty much every time a "Big 3" come together each player realizes they won't get as many touches as they used to and if there were ever some understanding players of that PG and Hayward are quite easy to picture being able to making that adjustment.
2. Keep in mind IT has such heavy 4th usage BECAUSE he has no help and no other teammates that can create for themselves. You might want to believe it wouldn't work but there's no reason why it wouldn't.
Re: Woj: Celtics looking to land both Hayward and George
Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:01 pm
by jonny three time
Maybe Im the only one who loves the fit. All 3 guys are true triple threats, while none of them is meant to carry a Lebron type load. They can all spot up from 3 really well too. Stevens is a great coach and this is the era of personal sacrifice for the super team.
The only question would be whether or not they have enough assets left to bring in the rebounding and rim protection they need.
Re: Woj: Celtics looking to land both Hayward and George
Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:03 pm
by LJKO
People need to understand we are much closer then we think just need to minus those negatives and insert those positives with consistency namingly our bum starting 3 and backup Stretch 4 we would of been right there with the cavs
Re: Woj: Celtics looking to land both Hayward and George
Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:08 pm
by ash_k
RaptorsLife wrote:ash_k wrote:so PG13 and Hayward woud just watch IT take over in the 4th??...Gordon should be ok with it, I highly doubt PG13 would. Potential chemistry issues there
Paul George is the least clutch player
But he wants to be the star. He wants to make the clutch shots..just ask C.J. Miles
LeBron would gladly let him take those, in Cleveland.
As a Laker, he would get those clutch shots.
IT, Hayward, PG13...that's a bit much on perimeter. I cant see him settle as "KlayThompson"
Re: Woj: Celtics looking to land both Hayward and George
Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:12 pm
by PhilBlackson
jonny three time wrote:Maybe Im the only one who loves the fit. All 3 guys are true triple threats, while none of them is meant to carry a Lebron type load. They can all spot up from 3 really well too. Stevens is a great coach and this is the era of personal sacrifice for the super team.
The only question would be whether or not they have enough assets left to bring in the rebounding and rim protection they need.
Only one?! lol there's a reason why BOS is pursuing it...
There's NO question if they have enough assets hence why everyone is busting Danny's chops about being a horder. Butler who has a longer deal and never said anything about wanting to leave got CHI 7th pick + LaVine + Dunn. BOS could easily offer either the BKN pick or more likely the LAL/SAC pick + Brown + Crowder or Bradley and throw in maybe one of MEM or SAC 2019s and that tops MIN's package. They'd still have the one of the BKN or LAL/SAC pick and one of the MEM/SAC 2019s plus all the other young players Zizic, Smart etc...DeAndre, Drummond, Favors look like their franchises would love to trade them and it's not like they really even need a player that great but can just rebound and defend a bit. Heck they could probably grab Millsap and none of those names would even cost them a top 5-7 pick.