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rapcity10 wrote:

Lukeem wrote:

rapcity10 wrote:I'm sorry bro I'm saying this in the nicest of way, but are you out of your god damn mind??!!!!!! Memphis laughs off the phone with that trade offer. Marc Gasol is Memphis, he's the heart of that community. It's going to take a blockbuster to pry him away. He's under contract for a couple more years still at a reasonable price, Memphis will get a very good offer for him as they should. He'll be great and I mean a great fit for us. I don't know if we have enough, we traded away our first rounder next year, are we willing to trade back to back first round picks? They will ask for OG, Potel, and they would hope to trade JV to Another 3rd team. The breakdown would be Potel, OG, a fist rounder, and JV, not our scrub prospects.

i am not your bro and i am not out of my mind.

i have 3 brothers and they are all capable of using reading comprehension before throwing 6
exclamation marks around like they just figured out how to use one.

i responded to someone saying they cannot find a legal trade on trade machine, then i posted that those salaries match. there are tonnes of other scenarios that would be close enough to work as well if jv is in the deal. and including a couple rookie contracts

Damn bro why u so mad and cheesed for homie bro?

CoachD wrote:

jonny three time wrote:I really like Gasols game, but he would be a terrible fit with Ibaka and Derozan. He and Ibaka operate in the same areas of the floor on offense, without either being much of a roll threat off of screens. He would also force Ibaka to play as a 4 to close out halfs/games, so it limits the types of lineups we can use, or one of them would have to sit when we finish games small.

Derozan's lack of shooting/spacing would hinder gasols post game as well, similar to how it hinders JVs. To properly use any big mans post up game in this era you really need all the perimeter players to be a legit 3 pt threat. Derozan's effect on team-wide ball movement would also hurt Gasols playmaking ability as a point-center. I can't remember a single great point-center/forward who excelled on a team that struggles moving the ball.

The ideal center for this team is a better version of what Jakob Poeltl is. An athletic rim-running garbage man, who rolls QUICK to the basket on PnR.

Umm

If Gasol could play with Zbo... He can definitely play with Serge

jonny three time wrote:

CoachD wrote:

jonny three time wrote:I really like Gasols game, but he would be a terrible fit with Ibaka and Derozan. He and Ibaka operate in the same areas of the floor on offense, without either being much of a roll threat off of screens. He would also force Ibaka to play as a 4 to close out halfs/games, so it limits the types of lineups we can use, or one of them would have to sit when we finish games small.

Derozan's lack of shooting/spacing would hinder gasols post game as well, similar to how it hinders JVs. To properly use any big mans post up game in this era you really need all the perimeter players to be a legit 3 pt threat. Derozan's effect on team-wide ball movement would also hurt Gasols playmaking ability as a point-center. I can't remember a single great point-center/forward who excelled on a team that struggles moving the ball.

The ideal center for this team is a better version of what Jakob Poeltl is. An athletic rim-running garbage man, who rolls QUICK to the basket on PnR.

Umm

If Gasol could play with Zbo... He can definitely play with Serge

Z-bo occupies a completely different area of the floor on offense. He's a low block guy. Serge and Gasol are both top of the key/arc guys. We could get by by using more staggered screens and putting Gasol on the low-block more, but the main problem is that neither can roll to the basket off of screens. They're both pick and pop guys when they screen.

The real issue though is that it completely negates using Ibaka as a 5 during key times. So we always either have to play big, or we have to sit one. When Lebron, Giannis, Kawhi, Durant, Melo and every other big SF with skill is playing the PF position, we're screwed for matchups, or like I said, we have to sit one of our bigs.

Its not just the Ibaka fit. It's Derozan and our team's entire style of offense (which is catered to Derozan). Gasol needs to be in more of a team system where he's surrounded by cutters and shooters he can make use of.

Moose23 wrote:Ibaka sucks as a pf defensively and is only effective at center. (although I do not believe that he can withstand being a full time center)

Him and gasol would not be a great pairing. Add demar into the mix and its terrible

If you get gasol you trade demar and jv for him and filler

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jonny three time wrote:

CoachD wrote:

jonny three time wrote:I really like Gasols game, but he would be a terrible fit with Ibaka and Derozan. He and Ibaka operate in the same areas of the floor on offense, without either being much of a roll threat off of screens. He would also force Ibaka to play as a 4 to close out halfs/games, so it limits the types of lineups we can use, or one of them would have to sit when we finish games small.

Derozan's lack of shooting/spacing would hinder gasols post game as well, similar to how it hinders JVs. To properly use any big mans post up game in this era you really need all the perimeter players to be a legit 3 pt threat. Derozan's effect on team-wide ball movement would also hurt Gasols playmaking ability as a point-center. I can't remember a single great point-center/forward who excelled on a team that struggles moving the ball.

The ideal center for this team is a better version of what Jakob Poeltl is. An athletic rim-running garbage man, who rolls QUICK to the basket on PnR.

Umm

If Gasol could play with Zbo... He can definitely play with Serge

Z-bo occupies a completely different area of the floor on offense. He's a low block guy. Serge and Gasol are both top of the key/arc guys. We could get by by using more staggered screens and putting Gasol on the low-block more, but the main problem is that neither can roll to the basket off of screens. They're both pick and pop guys when they screen.

The real issue though is that it completely negates using Ibaka as a 5 during key times. So we always either have to play big, or we have to sit one. When Lebron, Giannis, Kawhi, Durant, Melo and every other big SF with skill is playing the PF position, we're screwed for matchups, or like I said, we have to sit one of our bigs.

Its not just the Ibaka fit. It's Derozan and our team's entire style of offense (which is catered to Derozan). Gasol needs to be in more of a team system where he's surrounded by cutters and shooters he can make use of.

rapcity10 wrote:Just so you guys know David Fizdale is a pace and space type of coach. If they do trade Marc they will not want anything to do with JV at all. Some of you guys need a reality check if you think JV can be the centrepiece in acquiring Marc gasol. He couldn't even net an asset over the summertime, he wouldn't have been on the team right now otherwise. To even have Memphis entertain our offer it would have include Potel, OG, wright, and a first rounder. With JV being shipped to a third team for cap purposes. Just stop with these garbage trade proposals. Bruno, Bebe, vanvleet is not getting any GM excited. There not in a Indiana type of situation. Complete opposite actually.

dukes_wild wrote:

rapcity10 wrote:Just so you guys know David Fizdale is a pace and space type of coach. If they do trade Marc they will not want anything to do with JV at all. Some of you guys need a reality check if you think JV can be the centrepiece in acquiring Marc gasol. He couldn't even net an asset over the summertime, he wouldn't have been on the team right now otherwise. To even have Memphis entertain our offer it would have include Potel, OG, wright, and a first rounder. With JV being shipped to a third team for cap purposes. Just stop with these garbage trade proposals. Bruno, Bebe, vanvleet is not getting any GM excited. There not in a Indiana type of situation. Complete opposite actually.

Pace and space?

Memphis played at the league's 3rd slowest pace last season with 92.3 possessions per game, and they were a middle of the pack team in 3PA/game.

Mike Conley is a PG that excels in a half-court offense where you can set up your plays and run them. I don't see Memphis turning into the Warriors any time soon.

dukes_wild wrote:

rapcity10 wrote:Just so you guys know David Fizdale is a pace and space type of coach. If they do trade Marc they will not want anything to do with JV at all. Some of you guys need a reality check if you think JV can be the centrepiece in acquiring Marc gasol. He couldn't even net an asset over the summertime, he wouldn't have been on the team right now otherwise. To even have Memphis entertain our offer it would have include Potel, OG, wright, and a first rounder. With JV being shipped to a third team for cap purposes. Just stop with these garbage trade proposals. Bruno, Bebe, vanvleet is not getting any GM excited. There not in a Indiana type of situation. Complete opposite actually.

Pace and space?

Memphis played at the league's 3rd slowest pace last season with 92.3 possessions per game, and they were a middle of the pack team in 3PA/game.

Mike Conley is a PG that excels in a half-court offense where you can set up your plays and run them. I don't see Memphis turning into the Warriors any time soon.

Senbonzakura wrote:This is why giving up assets just to save money was a terrible idea. (See the Carroll trade).

We have no picks to include in a trade for Marc Gasol. So we basically have a 0% chance of acquiring him.

rapcity10 wrote:Just so you guys know David Fizdale is a pace and space type of coach. If they do trade Marc they will not want anything to do with JV at all. Some of you guys need a reality check if you think JV can be the centrepiece in acquiring Marc gasol. He couldn't even net an asset over the summertime, he wouldn't have been on the team right now otherwise. To even have Memphis entertain our offer it would have include Potel, OG, wright, and a first rounder. With JV being shipped to a third team for cap purposes. Just stop with these garbage trade proposals. Bruno, Bebe, vanvleet is not getting any GM excited. There not in a Indiana type of situation. Complete opposite actually.

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This is the first and last time I will ever see marc gasol in a raps jersey, thanks TZ!