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jojo152433 wrote:dukes_wild wrote:I absolutely despise people who bring up Washington's poor record and pin it on Fultz. Scum of the earth casuals who clearly didn't watch the games...
Wow - overreact much?
I think you've overvalued the importance of basketball analysis when it comes to evaluating one's character.
You think so?
dukes_wild wrote:Big Mac Biyombo wrote:dukes_wild wrote:Lol seriously?
He was an absolute force offensively in Washington. Great 3 point shooter with Harden-esque scoring instincts.
It's his shoulder. Why would a player who shot 41% from 3 on 5 attempts per game in College suddenly go 3 games without taking one 3pt attempt? Why would a player with seemingly fine shooting mechanics absolutely change his shooting form at the line in a way that puts no pressure on his shoulder?
The Sixers medical staff have said his shoulder is fine.
He wasn't that good in college. His team was 2-16 in conference play and lost 13 straight games to end the season. Kid seems like a real leader out there.
Yeah, you didn't watch Washington I guess.
The best teammates he had were David Crisp, a 6 foot shooting guard, and Noah Dickerson, neither of which will ever be drafted or appear in an NBA game.
That team was a clown show full of guys who shouldn't even be playing D1 basketball. I absolutely despise people who bring up Washington's poor record and pin it on Fultz. Scum of the earth casuals who clearly didn't watch the games but since LaVar Ball brought it up it's apparently fact
Boogie! wrote:
team would've been better with johnson over carroll. fraction of the price too... no idea why casey hated him so much. never got a fair shake here tbh. his skillset could've been used as a point forward role off the bench, instead he was just another garbage man in casey's iso system. would fit in well with this current team as well.
AkelaLoneWolf wrote:zilby wrote:I’m so beyond impressed by the bench. They’re making me excited for this year and beyond. Youth movement is real for us
the 905 effect at work. it's just as much chemistry as it is talent.
Big Mac Biyombo wrote:The Boy wrote:He's playing with the same injury Lowry had in 2015.RaptorsLife wrote:Seriously What has he shown that makes him a number 1 overrall pick in a stack draft. No elite attribute
Shoulder injury changes your whole game, he will look lost for a while.
I was watching their game the other night and the commentators said that the Sixers medical staff has said there is nothing wrong with his shoulder. Take that for what it's worth.
Boogie! wrote:
team would've been better with johnson over carroll. fraction of the price too... no idea why casey hated him so much. never got a fair shake here tbh. his skillset could've been used as a point forward role off the bench, instead he was just another garbage man in casey's iso system. would fit in well with this current team as well.
dukes_wild wrote:Big Mac Biyombo wrote:dukes_wild wrote:Yeah, you didn't watch Washington I guess.
The best teammates he had were David Crisp, a 6 foot shooting guard, and Noah Dickerson, neither of which will ever be drafted or appear in an NBA game.
That team was a clown show full of guys who shouldn't even be playing D1 basketball. I absolutely despise people who bring up Washington's poor record and pin it on Fultz. Scum of the earth casuals who clearly didn't watch the games but since LaVar Ball brought it up it's apparently fact
First of all, he could be playing with me and you and I'd still expect him to not go out there and lose by 20+ every night. No number one pick loses that bad. Even Ben Simmons didn't and his situation was even worse than Fultz's.
You still haven't answered my question. What does he do at a high level in the NBA? Aside from his size, he doesn't have any high quality attributes.
He's an average athlete, with average playmaking, poor defense, poor leadership, and has decided to change his shot. The one positive attribute he had is now his biggest weakness.
What does any 19 year old rookie do at a high level in the NBA aside from generational talents like KD/LeBron?
Anyways, Fultz is an elite scoring prospect. Hesitation, PnR scoring, Pull-up, amazing craftiness with the ball that resembles James Harden. He's literally the prototype of what you want a scoring PG to be, he has every single weapon in his arsenal that a player needs to succeed at the NBA level. The only negative thing you can say about his game offensively is his shot selection can be pretty erratic, but that's to be expected playing for a bad team that relies heavily on your scoring to even make the games close.
I'm not taking anything from these games until I get a legit explanation as to why he's not taking any 3s, which was a huge part of his success in College. Why is he only playing 19 minutes per game? Why has he including pre-season played 7 games, and has only taken three total 3s, making none after being a 41% 3pt shooter on high volume in College?
dukes_wild wrote:Big Mac Biyombo wrote:dukes_wild wrote:Yeah, you didn't watch Washington I guess.
The best teammates he had were David Crisp, a 6 foot shooting guard, and Noah Dickerson, neither of which will ever be drafted or appear in an NBA game.
That team was a clown show full of guys who shouldn't even be playing D1 basketball. I absolutely despise people who bring up Washington's poor record and pin it on Fultz. Scum of the earth casuals who clearly didn't watch the games but since LaVar Ball brought it up it's apparently fact
First of all, he could be playing with me and you and I'd still expect him to not go out there and lose by 20+ every night. No number one pick loses that bad. Even Ben Simmons didn't and his situation was even worse than Fultz's.
You still haven't answered my question. What does he do at a high level in the NBA? Aside from his size, he doesn't have any high quality attributes.
He's an average athlete, with average playmaking, poor defense, poor leadership, and has decided to change his shot. The one positive attribute he had is now his biggest weakness.
What does any 19 year old rookie do at a high level in the NBA aside from generational talents like KD/LeBron?
Anyways, Fultz is an elite scoring prospect. Hesitation, PnR scoring, Pull-up, amazing craftiness with the ball that resembles James Harden. He's literally the prototype of what you want a scoring PG to be, he has every single weapon in his arsenal that a player needs to succeed at the NBA level. The only negative thing you can say about his game offensively is his shot selection can be pretty erratic, but that's to be expected playing for a bad team that relies heavily on your scoring to even make the games close.
I'm not taking anything from these games until I get a legit explanation as to why he's not taking any 3s, which was a huge part of his success in College. Why is he only playing 19 minutes per game? Why has he including pre-season played 7 games, and has only taken three total 3s, making none after being a 41% 3pt shooter on high volume in College?
Raptorstopfan wrote:Demar is inarguably the best jump shooter NBA has seen in a long long time.
kj_ wrote:Boogie! wrote:nabbs wrote:
Man I can't believe the shape he is in
team would've been better with johnson over carroll. fraction of the price too... no idea why casey hated him so much. never got a fair shake here tbh. his skillset could've been used as a point forward role off the bench, instead he was just another garbage man in casey's iso system. would fit in well with this current team as well.
Dunking on people was never his weakness. Realizing he was a poor shooter was. Couldn't understand his role. Defend, get to the rim when he had a clear advantage. Thought he was more of a scorer than his skills suggested.
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mdenny wrote:In anycase....Masai is probably gonna make Fred the first active player/head coach in franchise history now that Nurse is out of the way. That's been the plan all along.
Dr Positivity wrote:dukes_wild wrote:RaptorsLife wrote:Sure did. His team was ass but his jump shot was actually competent. His free throw shooting motion looks like shaq at the line lol
If lonzo ball played like this I can only imagine the trolls
If you watched him in College, how can you say he has no elite attribute then?
He had one of the most dominant offensive years by an NCAA freshman in recent memory
By stats like WS and BPM he actually wasn't that great compared to the other top 10 picks. It wasn't an ultra statistical season like Durant or Beasley, he just put up lots of PPG playing with no talent teammates
Anticon wrote:Dr Positivity wrote:dukes_wild wrote:If you watched him in College, how can you say he has no elite attribute then?
He had one of the most dominant offensive years by an NCAA freshman in recent memory
By stats like WS and BPM he actually wasn't that great compared to the other top 10 picks. It wasn't an ultra statistical season like Durant or Beasley, he just put up lots of PPG playing with no talent teammates
I didn't watch a minute of Fultz in college but honestly how he played then is irrelevant now.
The question is, does he have the skill-set/talent of a number one pick based on his NBA performance? I don't see it right now, and with a number one pick you definitely should. That should be clear pretty immediately even with wonky shooting.
He looks like a great top ten prospect to me, but for the life of me I don't understand how he became consensus number one. Just some weird group think.
BBallG wrote:Boogie! wrote:
team would've been better with johnson over carroll. fraction of the price too... no idea why casey hated him so much. never got a fair shake here tbh. his skillset could've been used as a point forward role off the bench, instead he was just another garbage man in casey's iso system. would fit in well with this current team as well.
We all saw his talent and yet our professional NBA staff couldn't make it work somehow. How does this happens is beyond me. The politics behind the scene must be interesting...
Boogie! wrote:kj_ wrote:Boogie! wrote:
team would've been better with johnson over carroll. fraction of the price too... no idea why casey hated him so much. never got a fair shake here tbh. his skillset could've been used as a point forward role off the bench, instead he was just another garbage man in casey's iso system. would fit in well with this current team as well.
Dunking on people was never his weakness. Realizing he was a poor shooter was. Couldn't understand his role. Defend, get to the rim when he had a clear advantage. Thought he was more of a scorer than his skills suggested.
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carroll really wasn't much better at anything else in his tenure here other than his shooting. what couldn't he understand about his role? his role was to be a garbage man. defend and be the last option on offense. and that's what he did. the problem is he should've been used differently. i'm not saying that he wasn't partially to blame. but my point was that he didn't get a chance and his skillset wasn't being used properly on this team. but we've said that about a lot of players.
