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Post#121 » by whoknows » Mon Feb 19, 2018 7:01 pm

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whoknows wrote:the real sad part is that ESPN idiotic employee really believe that.

No surprise since ESPN is the toilet of sports media, they're the masters of fake news while barely staying in business.

I hope this motivates our guys!


ESPN ..barely staying in business?

See this is why Raptor fans get made outside this board.


I follow stocks and businesses on regular basis, you are the one that needs to educate himself.

http://www.businessinsider.com/espn-just-saw-its-largest-drop-in-subscribers-in-the-networks-history-2016-11

the last year political transformation of ESPN did not help the company, now Jemele is no longer with ESPN (was a matter of time)

http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/jemele-hill-white-supremacist-trump-espn-1202557572/
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Post#122 » by whoknows » Mon Feb 19, 2018 7:05 pm

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This is all true in pure theory. In practice we allow more foreign investment than almost any other developed nation. Those "profits" leave the country. We too easily sell our raw resources at bottom dollar. We farm out the value-added component to places like America and China. Is the role for the CRTC different in the Internet age? Probably a lot different. So even though Rogers and Bell get racket protection, as you say, their profits stay in Canada and if we had Comcast they would be f-ing us over a barrel torching net neutrality and sucking up our money by high tailing it off to wherever they hide their bounty. You either want a country that protects Canadian jobs and equity or you just see things in consumption terms and you have a Brampton depot for all things foreign namely American. I don't want to live in freckin Walmart Nation branch plant economy.


Government regulations are playing favourites (at our expense) against the natural free market of supply and demand (which wins all the time).
Raw resources prices are setup by the global market of supply and demand.
How do you protect Canadian jobs by creating monopoly in say telecommunication industry? Does the local repair technician care what name is on his truck?
Because the regular Canadian sure would love to pay 1/2 the CRTC inflated prices for data, in line to what Americans pay (for no limit plans).


Calling horseshoe on your post. Markets are neither "free" nor are they "natural". Market manipulation, monopoly, duolopoly, price fixing, currency rigging happen all the time. The reason lobbyists get paid is in the attempt to feather the nests of their clients to continue to have positions of advantage by bribe or whatever means to dominate and manipulate markets. If you believe markets are actually free you are substituting feel-good economic theory for facts. Don''t believe all these mantra talking points as fact. Do your economic homework. Being upset about the cost of cable or cell plans is a legitimate consumer grievance but be very careful not to adopt the master solution to all problems from the Fox that runs the hen house.


true, but you miss the point:
"fox that runs the hen house" is corrupt government/politicians, hence you prove my point.

Less government interference, better off (closer to "free market") we are.
Supply and demand laws of the market will always win, although sometimes delayed by government intervention.
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Post#123 » by kritical » Mon Feb 19, 2018 7:28 pm

what a joke, but prefer the raptors to become the Spurs, and show up when it counts
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Post#124 » by TorontoRapsFan » Mon Feb 19, 2018 7:30 pm

whoknows wrote:
Less government interference, better off (closer to "free market") we are.
Supply and demand laws of the market will always win, although sometimes delayed by government intervention.


How do you figure supply and demand is a law and how do you figure it 'wins' in some way?
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Post#125 » by TorontoRapsFan » Mon Feb 19, 2018 7:34 pm

I don't see why picking celtics over raps is such a troll thing to do. Two teams from each side, with rockets, warriors and cavs as unavoidable, leaving cetlics vs raps. There are lots of reasons to pick the celtics. I personally wouldn't bet on the celtics but thats me. This one is a little over reaction mayber??
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Post#126 » by whoknows » Mon Feb 19, 2018 7:41 pm

Victoriarapsfan wrote:
whoknows wrote:
Less government interference, better off (closer to "free market") we are.
Supply and demand laws of the market will always win, although sometimes delayed by government intervention.


How do you figure supply and demand is a law and how do you figure it 'wins' in some way?


Google is your friend:

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/l/law-of-supply-demand.asp

Basic economics knowledge.

it always wins, look at failed communism around the world, government tough they can own and control everything (private own companies were banned) based on planned economical plans.
It obviously failed, most recently look at poor Venezuela, although an oil rich country, their government controlling policies (after confiscating private property) made it a bankrupt country where people cannot get food. Another true communist country is North Korea.
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Post#127 » by Jef » Mon Feb 19, 2018 8:07 pm

Victoriarapsfan wrote:I don't see why picking celtics over raps is such a troll thing to do. Two teams from each side, with rockets, warriors and cavs as unavoidable, leaving cetlics vs raps. There are lots of reasons to pick the celtics. I personally wouldn't bet on the celtics but thats me. This one is a little over reaction mayber??


Sorry my BC brother, but not really. Raps are first in the entire conference, just demolished the Celtics, and the GreenBeans are on an obvious down-slope. Plus most ranking factions have the Raps in the Top 3, and they statistically destroy the Leprechauns.

Plus Sir Charles said we were better. Boom.
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Post#128 » by Senbonzakura » Mon Feb 19, 2018 8:11 pm

We're winning the title. Tired of this ****.
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Post#129 » by Senbonzakura » Mon Feb 19, 2018 8:13 pm

whoknows wrote:
Victoriarapsfan wrote:
whoknows wrote:
Less government interference, better off (closer to "free market") we are.
Supply and demand laws of the market will always win, although sometimes delayed by government intervention.


How do you figure supply and demand is a law and how do you figure it 'wins' in some way?


Google is your friend:

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/l/law-of-supply-demand.asp

Basic economics knowledge.

it always wins, look at failed communism around the world, government tough they can own and control everything (private own companies were banned) based on planned economical plans.
It obviously failed, most recently look at poor Venezuela, although an oil rich country, their government controlling policies (after confiscating private property) made it a bankrupt country where people cannot get food. Another true communist country is North Korea.


Yep it "failed". It's crazy how the Scandinavian countries, South Korea and Singapore are all failing.
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Post#130 » by whoknows » Mon Feb 19, 2018 8:15 pm

Senbonzakura wrote:
whoknows wrote:
Victoriarapsfan wrote:
How do you figure supply and demand is a law and how do you figure it 'wins' in some way?


Google is your friend:

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/l/law-of-supply-demand.asp

Basic economics knowledge.

it always wins, look at failed communism around the world, government tough they can own and control everything (private own companies were banned) based on planned economical plans.
It obviously failed, most recently look at poor Venezuela, although an oil rich country, their government controlling policies (after confiscating private property) made it a bankrupt country where people cannot get food. Another true communist country is North Korea.


Yep it "failed". It's crazy how the Scandinavian countries, South Korea and Singapore are all failing.


are you implying that these countries are communist (as in all business/property is own by government)???
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Post#131 » by SharoneWright » Mon Feb 19, 2018 10:00 pm

^^
The Invisible Hand:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invisible_hand

Problem with socialism is govt puts it's (very visible) thumb on the scale, to the overall detriment of nearly everyone.
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Post#132 » by Tofubeque » Mon Feb 19, 2018 10:48 pm

whoknows wrote:
OAKLEY_2 wrote:
whoknows wrote:
Government regulations are playing favourites (at our expense) against the natural free market of supply and demand (which wins all the time).
Raw resources prices are setup by the global market of supply and demand.
How do you protect Canadian jobs by creating monopoly in say telecommunication industry? Does the local repair technician care what name is on his truck?
Because the regular Canadian sure would love to pay 1/2 the CRTC inflated prices for data, in line to what Americans pay (for no limit plans).


Calling horseshoe on your post. Markets are neither "free" nor are they "natural". Market manipulation, monopoly, duolopoly, price fixing, currency rigging happen all the time. The reason lobbyists get paid is in the attempt to feather the nests of their clients to continue to have positions of advantage by bribe or whatever means to dominate and manipulate markets. If you believe markets are actually free you are substituting feel-good economic theory for facts. Don''t believe all these mantra talking points as fact. Do your economic homework. Being upset about the cost of cable or cell plans is a legitimate consumer grievance but be very careful not to adopt the master solution to all problems from the Fox that runs the hen house.


true, but you miss the point:
"fox that runs the hen house" is corrupt government/politicians, hence you prove my point.

Less government interference, better off (closer to "free market") we are.
Supply and demand laws of the market will always win, although sometimes delayed by government intervention.


No, the fox running the hen house is business interests. Otherwise it would be hens running the hen house.

When there's no government oversight, it doesn't result in perfect competition. It results in trusts and monopolies. It results in JD Rockefeller shutting down his competition with credible threats and secret deals with railroad companies. The first company past the post can easily buy out all their competitors, buy up all the infastructure, and then charge whatever the hell they want for bad products. State intervention in the economy is ESSENTIAL to prevent this, as well as to protect consumers and adjudicate theft.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_antitrust_law

True, a big problem in the US right now is corporate lobbying of the government, but tellingly the most common lobbying is to get the government to NOT act. Republicans and Democrats take millions in lobbying to make sure the government is as ineffective as it can be, and shut it down if possible. Don't enact gun control so arms manufacturers make more money. Don't fund the Post Office so FedEx makes more money. Don't enact healthcare reform, or reform it in ways that are as insurer-friendly as possible, so pharmaceutical and insurance companies make more money.

Also Venezuela faces food shortages largely because of sanctions from countries like the US and Canada, and from doing whatever the IMF wants while their international credit is held hostage. But that's another can of worms http://www.globalization101.org/why-is-the-imf-controversial/
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Post#133 » by whoknows » Mon Feb 19, 2018 11:14 pm

Tofubeque wrote:
whoknows wrote:
OAKLEY_2 wrote:
Calling horseshoe on your post. Markets are neither "free" nor are they "natural". Market manipulation, monopoly, duolopoly, price fixing, currency rigging happen all the time. The reason lobbyists get paid is in the attempt to feather the nests of their clients to continue to have positions of advantage by bribe or whatever means to dominate and manipulate markets. If you believe markets are actually free you are substituting feel-good economic theory for facts. Don''t believe all these mantra talking points as fact. Do your economic homework. Being upset about the cost of cable or cell plans is a legitimate consumer grievance but be very careful not to adopt the master solution to all problems from the Fox that runs the hen house.


true, but you miss the point:
"fox that runs the hen house" is corrupt government/politicians, hence you prove my point.

Less government interference, better off (closer to "free market") we are.
Supply and demand laws of the market will always win, although sometimes delayed by government intervention.


No, the fox running the hen house is business interests. Otherwise it would be hens running the hen house.

When there's no government oversight, it doesn't result in perfect competition. It results in trusts and monopolies. It results in JD Rockefeller shutting down his competition with credible threats and secret deals with railroad companies. The first company past the post can easily buy out all their competitors, buy up all the infastructure, and then charge whatever the hell they want for bad products. State intervention in the economy is ESSENTIAL to prevent this, as well as to protect consumers and adjudicate theft.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_antitrust_law

True, a big problem in the US right now is corporate lobbying of the government, but tellingly the most common lobbying is to get the government to NOT act. Republicans and Democrats take millions in lobbying to make sure the government is as ineffective as it can be, and shut it down if possible. Don't enact gun control so arms manufacturers make more money. Don't fund the Post Office so FedEx makes more money. Don't enact healthcare reform, or reform it in ways that are as insurer-friendly as possible, so pharmaceutical and insurance companies make more money.

Also Venezuela faces food shortages largely because of sanctions from countries like the US and Canada, and from doing whatever the IMF wants while their international credit is held hostage. But that's another can of worms http://www.globalization101.org/why-is-the-imf-controversial/


There are shreds of truth in what you say and I partially agree with some things, but your general view is totally distorted by left view glasses.
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Post#134 » by TorontoRapsFan » Tue Feb 20, 2018 1:17 am

whoknows wrote:
Victoriarapsfan wrote:
whoknows wrote:
Less government interference, better off (closer to "free market") we are.
Supply and demand laws of the market will always win, although sometimes delayed by government intervention.


How do you figure supply and demand is a law and how do you figure it 'wins' in some way?


Google is your friend:

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/l/law-of-supply-demand.asp

Basic economics knowledge.

it always wins, look at failed communism around the world, government tough they can own and control everything (private own companies were banned) based on planned economical plans.
It obviously failed, most recently look at poor Venezuela, although an oil rich country, their government controlling policies (after confiscating private property) made it a bankrupt country where people cannot get food. Another true communist country is North Korea.


I don't have much of an opinion on what's right/wrong in the 'free market vs...' argument. My issue is with taking this as a law. Even the website you linked says "Generally, low supply and high demand increase price. In contrast, the greater the supply and the lower the demand, the price tends to fall." Generally doesn't make a law.
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Post#135 » by Superchunk » Tue Feb 20, 2018 1:05 pm

whoknows wrote:
Victoriarapsfan wrote:
whoknows wrote:
Less government interference, better off (closer to "free market") we are.
Supply and demand laws of the market will always win, although sometimes delayed by government intervention.


How do you figure supply and demand is a law and how do you figure it 'wins' in some way?


Google is your friend:

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/l/law-of-supply-demand.asp

Basic economics knowledge.

it always wins, look at failed communism around the world, government tough they can own and control everything (private own companies were banned) based on planned economical plans.
It obviously failed, most recently look at poor Venezuela, although an oil rich country, their government controlling policies (after confiscating private property) made it a bankrupt country where people cannot get food. Another true communist country is North Korea.


I'm genuinely not trying to be a jerk, but you have no idea what you're talking about. There's no such thing as a free market and there never has been, so how can you talk about it winning?

This is very sophmoric stuff.
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Post#136 » by whoknows » Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:08 pm

Superchunk wrote:
whoknows wrote:
Victoriarapsfan wrote:
How do you figure supply and demand is a law and how do you figure it 'wins' in some way?


Google is your friend:

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/l/law-of-supply-demand.asp

Basic economics knowledge.

it always wins, look at failed communism around the world, government tough they can own and control everything (private own companies were banned) based on planned economical plans.
It obviously failed, most recently look at poor Venezuela, although an oil rich country, their government controlling policies (after confiscating private property) made it a bankrupt country where people cannot get food. Another true communist country is North Korea.


I'm genuinely not trying to be a jerk, but you have no idea what you're talking about. There's no such thing as a free market and there never has been, so how can you talk about it winning?

This is very sophmoric stuff.


:lol: you are clearly thinking of the definition of "free"...

It is a term used in economics/business same as "law of supply and demand" which another poster takes at ad litteram.

some info below, but again google and read before attacking posters because your "knowledge" does not allow you to have an open mind for learning.

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/f/freemarket.asp
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Post#137 » by Superchunk » Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:25 pm

whoknows wrote:
Superchunk wrote:
whoknows wrote:
Google is your friend:

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/l/law-of-supply-demand.asp

Basic economics knowledge.

it always wins, look at failed communism around the world, government tough they can own and control everything (private own companies were banned) based on planned economical plans.
It obviously failed, most recently look at poor Venezuela, although an oil rich country, their government controlling policies (after confiscating private property) made it a bankrupt country where people cannot get food. Another true communist country is North Korea.


I'm genuinely not trying to be a jerk, but you have no idea what you're talking about. There's no such thing as a free market and there never has been, so how can you talk about it winning?

This is very sophmoric stuff.


:lol: you are clearly thinking of the definition of "free"...

It is a term used in economics/business same as "law of supply and demand" which another poster takes at ad litteram.

some info below, but again google and read before attacking posters because your "knowledge" does not allow you to have an open mind for learning.

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/f/freemarket.asp



That's cool. Whatever you say. I don't care about your ignorance to be honest.
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Post#138 » by Superchunk » Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:46 pm

whoknows wrote:
Superchunk wrote:
whoknows wrote:
Google is your friend:

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/l/law-of-supply-demand.asp

Basic economics knowledge.

it always wins, look at failed communism around the world, government tough they can own and control everything (private own companies were banned) based on planned economical plans.
It obviously failed, most recently look at poor Venezuela, although an oil rich country, their government controlling policies (after confiscating private property) made it a bankrupt country where people cannot get food. Another true communist country is North Korea.


I'm genuinely not trying to be a jerk, but you have no idea what you're talking about. There's no such thing as a free market and there never has been, so how can you talk about it winning?

This is very sophmoric stuff.


:lol: you are clearly thinking of the definition of "free"...

It is a term used in economics/business same as "law of supply and demand" which another poster takes at ad litteram.

some info below, but again google and read before attacking posters because your "knowledge" does not allow you to have an open mind for learning.

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/f/freemarket.asp


Actually I can't help myself. What definition of free do you think I'm using? I'm really curious.

There are only a couple of definitions of free. Please please fill me in on what made you "lol" about your assumption of how I'm using the word.

I'll help out a bit. The two main definitions of free would be a) unfettered, without restriction or b) without monetary cost. As I'm clearly in need of education, can you tell me what the definition of "free" in "free market" is, that I have so woefully misunderstood. Thanks.

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