2018 Offseason Trades & FA Ideas Thread (CBA Guide Pg.1) V1.0

[bballsparkin]

Anyone get the sense that if JV puts up 16/10 numbers this year, his trade value will be high enough to nab someone like Butler at the deadline (obviously have to include more)?

He seems like a bad fit for KAT.

[Uncle Dennis]

Anyone get the sense that if JV puts up 16/10 numbers this year, his trade value will be high enough to nab someone like Butler at the deadline (obviously have to include more)?

He seems like a bad fit for KAT.

Alternatively if OG explodes this year and puts up 10+PPG with stellar defence he could be a huge trade chip. But at that point would we even want to let him go?

[Red_Claw]

Anyone get the sense that if JV puts up 16/10 numbers this year, his trade value will be high enough to nab someone like Butler at the deadline (obviously have to include more)?

He seems like a bad fit for KAT.

Alternatively if OG explodes this year and puts up 10+PPG with stellar defence he could be a huge trade chip. But at that point would we even want to let him go?

I get the impression that the same people wwho prefer to tank and start with a blank slate also suggest that we get rid of all our longterm assets to make the "big push" for a championship. Neither is good stategy.

Getting rid of an improving OG, someone who "could" fill Kawhi's shoes if he leaves is just dumb. Especially when you have him on a rookie contract for 3 more years.

[Uncle Dennis]

He seems like a bad fit for KAT.

Alternatively if OG explodes this year and puts up 10+PPG with stellar defence he could be a huge trade chip. But at that point would we even want to let him go?

I get the impression that the same people wwho prefer to tank and start with a blank slate also suggest that we get rid of all our longterm assets to make the "big push" for a championship. Neither is good stategy.

Getting rid of an improving OG, someone who "could" fill Kawhi's shoes if he leaves is just dumb. Especially when you have him on a rookie contract for 3 more years.

I don't know if it's dumb, it depends on what the GM wants (short term or long term). If we got Butler for OG and we ended up winning a championship in the short term, most wouldn't see it as dumb. However, I still would be reluctant to include him in any trade (if he was playing really well).

[Red_Claw]

Alternatively if OG explodes this year and puts up 10+PPG with stellar defence he could be a huge trade chip. But at that point would we even want to let him go?

I get the impression that the same people wwho prefer to tank and start with a blank slate also suggest that we get rid of all our longterm assets to make the "big push" for a championship. Neither is good stategy.

Getting rid of an improving OG, someone who "could" fill Kawhi's shoes if he leaves is just dumb. Especially when you have him on a rookie contract for 3 more years.

I don't know if it's dumb, it depends on what the GM wants (short term or long term). If we got Butler for OG and we ended up winning a championship in the short term, most wouldn't see it as dumb. However, I still would be reluctant to include him in any trade (if he was playing really well).

"IF we win a championship....."

What if we don't? What if we under achieve? Would it have been worth giving away our entire future?!

but i do see your point about OG specifically and if he were the only piece to have to trade to bring in an all star, maybe i would react differently but thats not the case here. We would have to give up alot more. Some even suggest adding our up an up and coming center who is our primary (only) rebounder who can handle big minutes.

Best case scenarios are easy to imagine. Its being able to forsee the worst case thats a real skill.

[Uncle Dennis]

I get the impression that the same people wwho prefer to tank and start with a blank slate also suggest that we get rid of all our longterm assets to make the "big push" for a championship. Neither is good stategy.

Getting rid of an improving OG, someone who "could" fill Kawhi's shoes if he leaves is just dumb. Especially when you have him on a rookie contract for 3 more years.

I don't know if it's dumb, it depends on what the GM wants (short term or long term). If we got Butler for OG and we ended up winning a championship in the short term, most wouldn't see it as dumb. However, I still would be reluctant to include him in any trade (if he was playing really well).

"IF we win a championship....."

What if we don't? What if we under achieve? Would it have been worth giving away our entire future?!

but i do see your point about OG specifically and if he were the only piece to have to trade to bring in an all star, maybe i would react differently but thats not the case here. We would have to give up alot more. Some even suggest adding our up an up and coming center who is our primary (only) rebounder who can handle big minutes.

Best case scenarios are easy to imagine. Its being able to forsee the worst case thats a real skill.

Sure there are the if's and but's. And yes, worst case scenario, Butler and Kawhi would leave, and we'd be without OG. I guess those are the risks management has to evaluate and determine if it fits their sentiments. In the end we'll see, and I trust Masai to do what's best. He has been doing a pretty solid job thus far, so I'm satisfied with how we look.

[bballsparkin]

Alternatively if OG explodes this year and puts up 10+PPG with stellar defence he could be a huge trade chip. But at that point would we even want to let him go?

Yeah that would be tough. If OG is playing well he will be important to any long playoff run. I don't think Butler is realistic at this point. He'll be a true rental come the deadline and the cost will hurt. Tough call. I'm thinking the Wolve's would have to be out of the playoff picture to move him.

Personally if I was the Wolves I'd try to cash in on KAT. A big that talented who coasts on defense. See ya!

[PHANTOMPHOENIX]

Anyone get the sense that if JV puts up 16/10 numbers this year, his trade value will be high enough to nab someone like Butler at the deadline (obviously have to include more)?

He seems like a bad fit for KAT.

That is because he is a bad fit for KAT. I really don't understand these trade offers including JV to Minny. As if Minny is going to ship out KAT to accommodate JV.

Ibaka is a better fit for Minny because he can defend 4/5 and gives them some rim protection, basically he would defend whoever KAT does not want to defend.

I am not saying Ibaka would get you Butler, just that he is a better fit for KAT and would only have 1 more year of salary at the trade deadline.

Also at the trade deadline, Butler is basically 3 month rental so I don't expect a great package from any team.

[Psubs]

Anyone get the sense that if JV puts up 16/10 numbers this year, his trade value will be high enough to nab someone like Butler at the deadline (obviously have to include more)?

He seems like a bad fit for KAT.

That is because he is a bad fit for KAT. I really don't understand these trade offers including JV to Minny. As if Minny is going to ship out KAT to accommodate JV.

Ibaka is a better fit for Minny because he can defend 4/5 and gives them some rim protection, basically he would defend whoever KAT does not want to defend.

I am not saying Ibaka would get you Butler, just that he is a better fit for KAT and would only have 1 more year of salary at the trade deadline.

Also at the trade deadline, Butler is basically 3 month rental so I don't expect a great package from any team.

Though could the Raptors really want to get out of Ibaka's final year? Minnesota could lose Taj Gibson the following season too and could use a big.

[Asif16]

Anyone get the sense that if JV puts up 16/10 numbers this year, his trade value will be high enough to nab someone like Butler at the deadline (obviously have to include more)?

He seems like a bad fit for KAT.

I think its the opposite. KAT's game is transitioning more and more to the perimeter.

There's also complaints among wolves fans that KAT doesnt like playing defense and guarding the other team's C's. Thats why he's such a mediocre rebounder. Minnesota might do well by having Val do all the dirty work and have KAT play PF full time

[Rapcity_11]

Anyone get the sense that if JV puts up 16/10 numbers this year, his trade value will be high enough to nab someone like Butler at the deadline (obviously have to include more)?

He seems like a bad fit for KAT.

I think its the opposite. KAT's game is transitioning more and more to the perimeter.

There's also complaints among wolves fans that KAT doesnt like playing defense and guarding the other team's C's. Thats why he's such a mediocre rebounder. Minnesota might do well by having Val do all the dirty work and have KAT play PF full time

KAT had a 30.9% DRB last year. #4 in the NBA. Mediocre? LOL

[HeadtopChunes]

He seems like a bad fit for KAT.

I think its the opposite. KAT's game is transitioning more and more to the perimeter.

There's also complaints among wolves fans that KAT doesnt like playing defense and guarding the other team's C's. Thats why he's such a mediocre rebounder. Minnesota might do well by having Val do all the dirty work and have KAT play PF full time

KAT had a 30.9% DRB last year. #4 in the NBA. Mediocre? LOL

Yeah hes recorded a double-double in 181 out of his 246 career games. KAt is far from a mediocre rebounder.

[Clutch0z24]

Wouldnt mind taking a flyer on Waiters who might come cheap and hes on a 3 year deal....Maybe he can develop here like Oladopo did in Indiana...

Maybe a deal like Powell/Wright for Waiters....Kinda would hate losing Wright but hes about to become a free agent and with KL/Fvv being here long term hes kind of out of position playing the SG position....

Waiters is a natural SG and can score in various ways (Something we are lacking is a shot creator/Maker)

Watch on YouTube

he was playing great before the injury

[Mr Swagtastic]

Wouldnt mind taking a flyer on Waiters who might come cheap and hes on a 3 year deal....Maybe he can develop here like Oladopo did in Indiana...

Maybe a deal like Powell/Wright for Waiters....Kinda would hate losing Wright but hes about to become a free agent and with KL/Fvv being here long term hes kind of out of position playing the SG position....

Waiters is a natural SG and can score in various ways (Something we are lacking is a shot creator/Maker)

Watch on YouTube

he was playing great before the injury

Seems like a waste of Wright IMHO, Waiters is okay but with Green I don't see many minutes for him. Wright is a combo guard he has great defensive instincts to play either spot and has size to be effective as well. I don't buy this he's not a true SG stuff, we seen he can work with FVV and even played SF minutes.

Dion to me has always been a scorer and a me first type of player, I don't like his fit as he is a horrible free throw shooter and a overhyped three point shooter.

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[mirrornick]

I would give OJ Mayo a chance. http://www.williamsondailynews.com/sports/o-j-mayo-hoping-for-second-chance-in-nba-this/article_3e9c359d-18f9-5670-bc1e-af70d135628b.html

Only 30 years old yet he's a vet.

[Uncle Dennis]

I would give OJ Mayo a chance. http://www.williamsondailynews.com/sports/o-j-mayo-hoping-for-second-chance-in-nba-this/article_3e9c359d-18f9-5670-bc1e-af70d135628b.html

Only 30 years old yet he's a vet.

If he's been keeping in shape I'd give him a chance too. He was decent when he started (he got worse as the years went on), but you never know? Do we even have a spot for him though?

[mirrornick]

I would give OJ Mayo a chance. http://www.williamsondailynews.com/sports/o-j-mayo-hoping-for-second-chance-in-nba-this/article_3e9c359d-18f9-5670-bc1e-af70d135628b.html

Only 30 years old yet he's a vet.

If he's been keeping in shape I'd give him a chance too. He was decent when he started (he got worse as the years went on), but you never know?

He played overseas and I am sure he is motivated to return to the NBA after 2 years.

[Uncle Dennis]

I would give OJ Mayo a chance. http://www.williamsondailynews.com/sports/o-j-mayo-hoping-for-second-chance-in-nba-this/article_3e9c359d-18f9-5670-bc1e-af70d135628b.html

Only 30 years old yet he's a vet.

If he's been keeping in shape I'd give him a chance too. He was decent when he started (he got worse as the years went on), but you never know?

He played overseas and I am sure he is motivated to return to the NBA after 2 years.

Wikipedia says he played in Puerto Rico.

"Mayo started 18 of his 21 appearances with the team, shooting just 39.0 percent from the field and 34.7 percent from beyond the arc. He also averaged 13.4 points, 3.9 rebounds, 3.5 assists and 1.1 steals."

Honestly I can't see him taking minutes from Norm, but it would be an interesting option.

[mirrornick]

If he's been keeping in shape I'd give him a chance too. He was decent when he started (he got worse as the years went on), but you never know?

He played overseas and I am sure he is motivated to return to the NBA after 2 years.

Wikipedia says he played in Puerto Rico.

"Mayo started 18 of his 21 appearances with the team, shooting just 39.0 percent from the field and 34.7 percent from beyond the arc. He also averaged 13.4 points, 3.9 rebounds, 3.5 assists and 1.1 steals."

Honestly I can't see him taking minutes from Norm, but it would be an interesting option.

Most people on here are set to go. I don't think there's much more to do to improve the team. Everything seems intact.

[Mr Swagtastic]

If he's been keeping in shape I'd give him a chance too. He was decent when he started (he got worse as the years went on), but you never know?

He played overseas and I am sure he is motivated to return to the NBA after 2 years.

Wikipedia says he played in Puerto Rico.

"Mayo started 18 of his 21 appearances with the team, shooting just 39.0 percent from the field and 34.7 percent from beyond the arc. He also averaged 13.4 points, 3.9 rebounds, 3.5 assists and 1.1 steals."

Honestly I can't see him taking minutes from Norm, but it would be an interesting option.

Doesn't seem like his numbers are that great to justify a roster spot. I mean we have VanVleet, Lowry, Green, Powell, Wright and Miles all as back court players. I can't see Mayo as better than any one of those guys. Mayo isn't really a SF as well and his defense isn't that great, IDK seems like a waste of a spot to me especially for a cap strapped team.

I can see him maybe going to a team looking for a veteran trying to help them make them better like maybe Detroit or Orlando or one of Washington or Indiana.

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