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Re: Team Canada Basketball Thread V2.0 

Post#3721 » by aminiaturebuddha » Fri Jan 8, 2021 3:27 pm

mojo13 wrote:Mfiondu Kabengele will be a UFA at the end of the season.

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At first glance it would seem that the Clippers were a good landing spot for Kabengele because of their need for big man depth. However, they're clearly a "win now" team that seems to have little interest in giving a young player time to make mistakes and try to develop. I still think the guy has a future in the NBA somewhere. He has a few very translatable skills, he just needs to learn the game and get better across the board. Hopefully he and his agents make it their priority to get him to a team next year that will help his development and allow him court time to improve.
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Re: Team Canada Basketball Thread V2.0 

Post#3722 » by TrueNorth31 » Fri Jan 8, 2021 8:09 pm

The Kabengele situation is very odd. Obviously they are down on him ( remember they didn't even take him to the bubble last year )
Here's what Hollinger said about the situation.

"Kabengele’s case was the brow-raiser, however, as he is coming off his rookie season and his potential salary hit ($2,174,880) was quite low. The Clips would have had to be pretty convinced he wasn’t any kind of answer to make a move like this.

It’s surprising because his track record wasn’t so awful that you’d automatically hit eject after one year. He had a respectable G League season (20.4 PER) in 27 games, one where he showed some stretch big potential (53 made 3s). His limited NBA minutes, between preseason and NBA, haven’t been overtly awful. While his limited feel is an obstacle and there are some medical questions about his knees, this was a known quantity coming into the 2019 draft and the Clippers gave up a future first to get him.

Should they change their minds and want to bring him back, the Clippers are forbidden from offering Kabengele more than that $2,174,880 option amount this offseason. With a good year, he can become a poaching target for another squad trying to develop a young big."

https://theathletic.com/2300715/2021/01/04/cavs-defense-jimmy-butler-heat-patrick-williams-bulls-corey-kispert-nba-draft-gonzaga/

My take is that the Clippers aren't a great fit for somebody who's as raw as Kabengele and is a bit of a late bloomer ( he hardly started in college and is a guy who had a late growth spurt ). I watched him quite closely in pre season, his body looks a little soft and he doesn't have a great feel for setting screens and being in the right spot, but he does many things a modern post should do. He's a good 3 - point shooter and shot blocker ( he blocked Rudy Gobert twice in a row in the game I watched ) . His mobility despite his relative girth is surprisingly okay. I just think the Clippers are a terrible fit for somebody so raw - they have a crazy demanding owner, its NBA finals or bust and a well documented veteran roster with lots of chemistry issues.

I don't think he's going to be a star. but he certainly has modern NBA post rotation ability if given the proper time and opportunity. This is a guy the Raptors should be all over given their current post situation.
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Re: Team Canada Basketball Thread V2.0 

Post#3723 » by Kenter16 » Fri Jan 8, 2021 8:41 pm

TrueNorth31 wrote:The Kabengele situation is very odd. Obviously they are down on him ( remember they didn't even take him to the bubble last year )
Here's what Hollinger said about the situation.

"Kabengele’s case was the brow-raiser, however, as he is coming off his rookie season and his potential salary hit ($2,174,880) was quite low. The Clips would have had to be pretty convinced he wasn’t any kind of answer to make a move like this.

It’s surprising because his track record wasn’t so awful that you’d automatically hit eject after one year. He had a respectable G League season (20.4 PER) in 27 games, one where he showed some stretch big potential (53 made 3s). His limited NBA minutes, between preseason and NBA, haven’t been overtly awful. While his limited feel is an obstacle and there are some medical questions about his knees, this was a known quantity coming into the 2019 draft and the Clippers gave up a future first to get him.

Should they change their minds and want to bring him back, the Clippers are forbidden from offering Kabengele more than that $2,174,880 option amount this offseason. With a good year, he can become a poaching target for another squad trying to develop a young big."

https://theathletic.com/2300715/2021/01/04/cavs-defense-jimmy-butler-heat-patrick-williams-bulls-corey-kispert-nba-draft-gonzaga/

My take is that the Clippers aren't a great fit for somebody who's as raw as Kabengele and is a bit of a late bloomer ( he hardly started in college and is a guy who had a late growth spurt ). I watched him quite closely in pre season, his body looks a little soft and he doesn't have a great feel for setting screens and being in the right spot, but he does many things a modern post should do. He's a good 3 - point shooter and shot blocker ( he blocked Rudy Gobert twice in a row in the game I watched ) . His mobility despite his relative girth is surprisingly okay. I just think the Clippers are a terrible fit for somebody so raw - they have a crazy demanding owner, its NBA finals our bust and a well documented veteran roster with lots of chemistry issues.

I don't think he's going to be a star. but he certainly has modern NBA post rotation ability if given the proper time and opportunity. This is a guy the Raptors should be all over given their current post situation.
I echo the fact that the Raptors should be all over him. I would imagine they could trade for him right now for very little, a future 2nd maybe. Raptors bigs have been so bad they could definitely find him some playing time. Also with their record of development, it would be mutually beneficial.

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Re: Team Canada Basketball Thread V2.0 

Post#3724 » by Hair Canada » Mon Jan 11, 2021 5:27 pm

I know this discussion is all over this board. But I don't think it's been said enough on this Team Canada thread:

How great has Chris Boucher been?!

* In only 21 minutes a game, he's 3rd in the league in blocks!
* He's also 3rd in the league in PER (!), behind only Morant (3 games) and Jokic.
* His per-36 numbers per game are 26 points, 10 rebounds, and 4.5 blocks.
* His current true shooting is 68%.
* And, as a bonus, he's also a fun player to watch. a bundle of energy on the court, swatting anything in site, disrupting plays, and crashing the offensive boards.

For all I care, Raptors fans can continue to debate over his weight (if only he had 20 more pounds...), wonder if the Raptors overpaid for him (I swear I saw this multiple times), and contemplate whether he or Alex Len (Alex Len!) should start.

But how exciting would it be to have him playing like this for Team Canada? I'm pretty sure the NT head coach is somewhere taking notes.
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Re: Team Canada Basketball Thread V2.0 

Post#3725 » by mojo13 » Mon Jan 11, 2021 6:17 pm

Hair Canada wrote:I know this discussion is all over this board. But I don't think it's been said enough on this Team Canada thread:

How great has Chris Boucher been?!

* In only 21 minutes a game, he's 3rd in the league in blocks!
* He's also 3rd in the league in PER (!), behind only Morant (3 games) and Jokic.
* His per-36 numbers per game are 26 points, 10 rebounds, and 4.5 blocks.
* His current true shooting is 68%.
* And, as a bonus, he's also a fun player to watch. a bundle of energy on the court, swatting anything in site, disrupting plays, and crashing the offensive boards.

For all I care, Raptors fans can continue to debate over his weight (if only he had 20 more pounds...), wonder if the Raptors overpaid for him (I swear I saw this multiple times), and contemplate whether he or Alex Len (Alex Len!) should start.

But how exciting would it be to have him playing like this for Team Canada? I'm pretty sure the NT head coach is somewhere taking notes.


He's been making me quit excited as well. He really fills some huge holes for Team Canada's frontcourt too.
The only decent rim protector we have is Khem Birch (Alexander and Kabengele perhaps) and really the only reliable three point shooting big right now is KO (yeah...Ejim, Clarke as PFs I suppose). Further assuming KO, Birch and Kabengele could be out this summer as FA, then Boucher becomes a very key piece (bench or starter).

I do recall him playing against a large lumbering, crappy Chinese center in the Pacific Rim classic in Victoria and he was very easily shoved around and was terrible defending the paint (outside of the odd block). Since FIBA is much more forgiving with the physicality this is a significant concern if we were relying on Boucher as a primary paint defender. But he gives us plenty more versatility as another big that can play alongside Thompson, Birch or Powell. With KO likely out - Boucher could be huge for Team Canada.
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Re: Team Canada Basketball Thread V2.0 

Post#3726 » by mojo13 » Mon Jan 11, 2021 10:07 pm

G-League draft was today and here the CanCon:

- Oshae Brissett drafted in the early second round by the Fort Wayne Mad Ants (Pacers)
- XRM goes undrafted and remains in the avaialbe player pool.
- Simi Shittu wasn't not in the draft for some reason but there are early unconfirmed reports he has signed with the Westchester Knicks.
- Nik Stauskas previously singed with he 905 was a veteran player.


I think that's it....


Not sure if I mentioned Shayok signed in Turkey last week. Kyle Alexander a few weeks back in Spain - not sure if there was anyone else floating around NBA camps in pre-season or is that it?
Nothing out there on Lindell Wigginton or Justin Jackson who were supposedly working out with clubs in the offseason. Nor on Anthony Bennett, who the Clippers supposedly still hold his G League rights.
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Re: Team Canada Basketball Thread V2.0 

Post#3727 » by Hair Canada » Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:44 am

RJ Barrett against Indiana (2 games): 7 of 8 from 3.
Barrett against any other team: 2 of 42 (!) from 3.

His 3-point shooting just fell off a cliff. Tonight he had a couple of completely open looks. They were not even close. One of them from the corner was an airball that managed to be both long and wide. But what can he do? He has to keep shooting them or he'll become a smaller less-talented Ben Simmons. This is definitely hurting the Knicks though.

And it's too bad because he's actually improved some aspects of his game. 7.5 rebounds and 3.5 assists per game are good numbers, ternding up. And his defense also looks much better. If he can only get the 3-points shooting back, even to what it was last year... He would be scoring 20 points per game and everything would look different, opening up his driving and passing lanes.
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Re: Team Canada Basketball Thread V2.0 

Post#3728 » by Kenter16 » Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:48 pm

NAW goes off last night!
His first start of the season - 37p/8r/1a/1 steal and only 1 turn over
His only start of last season - 29p/1r/7a/1 steal

I am not an expert, but maybe they should start him more!
I really hope we see him in Victoria this summer.
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Re: Team Canada Basketball Thread V2.0 

Post#3729 » by aminiaturebuddha » Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:18 pm

Kenter16 wrote:NAW goes off last night!
His first start of the season - 37p/8r/1a/1 steal and only 1 turn over
His only start of last season - 29p/1r/7a/1 steal

I am not an expert, but maybe they should start him more!
I really hope we see him in Victoria this summer.


He's been really inconsistent so far in his NBA career (particularly with his shooting), but it's hard to tell if that's partly because he hasn't had consistent minutes to get into a rhythm, or if his minutes are inconsistent because he hasn't been reliable. Probably a bit of both. The New Orleans roster seems a little more cleared at his position for him to get minutes this year though, so hopefully he'll keep improving and impress.

I actually think he's the natural long term answer for that team at the SG spot. Reddick is getting older, and NAW seems like he would be a good complement to the other core members of that starting lineup - Zion, Ingram, and Lonzo. I wouldn't be surprised if that's his permanent role as soon as next year. For now though, we'll just have to enjoy these flashes whenever he gets a chance to play significant minutes.

As for whether or not he'll be on the National Team, right now NO is at 4-6 and the West is really tough, so unless they get into the playoffs through the play-in games, I think there's a good chance he'll be available. He'd be a good answer to fill in for someone like Murray, who will likely still be playing deep into the playoffs.
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Re: Team Canada Basketball Thread V2.0 

Post#3730 » by mojo13 » Yesterday 5:44 pm

Reports stating Canada will playing in the next FIBA AmeriCup Qualifier window (Feb17-21). Held in a "bubble" in PR, where Canada will play 4 games. The two regularly scheduled games vs USVI & Cuba as well as the two make-up games from Nov. when Canada did not travel to DR.

Report in Spanish here:
https://saltoalcentro.wordpress.com/2021/01/09/republica-dominicana-jugara-tercera-ventana-clasificatoria-copa-america-2022-en-puerto-rico/

Also seeing 4 games scheduled for Canada on the FIBA site:
http://www.fiba.basketball/americup/2022/qualifiers/games
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Re: Team Canada Basketball Thread V2.0 

Post#3731 » by TrueNorth31 » Yesterday 6:36 pm

mojo13 wrote:Reports stating Canada will playing in the next FIBA AmeriCup Qualifier window (Feb17-21). Held in a "bubble" in PR, where Canada will play 4 games. The two regularly scheduled games vs USVI & Cuba as well as the two make-up games from Nov. when Canada did not travel to DR.

Report in Spanish here:
https://saltoalcentro.wordpress.com/2021/01/09/republica-dominicana-jugara-tercera-ventana-clasificatoria-copa-america-2022-en-puerto-rico/

Also seeing 4 games scheduled for Canada on the FIBA site:
http://www.fiba.basketball/americup/2022/qualifiers/games


Nice find, hopefully since FIBA has been quite accommodating to us , we go and don't screw this up. I imagine a bubble in P.R. is a little bit safer than one in the D.R.

I've heard through the grapevine , that they've reached out to some prominent U sports players. Between them , and pro guys who didn't go to Europe hopefully we'd have an adequate team.
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Re: Team Canada Basketball Thread V2.0 

Post#3732 » by TrueNorth31 » Yesterday 7:38 pm

Some more love for Boucher from Zach Lowe ( as a workaround you can access Australia ESPN as the American one has been banned in Canada / China ) .

4. Cuttin' Chris Boucher
Boucher has been one of the bright spots in the Tampa Drakes' dreary start. He's averaging 15 points on 59% shooting, including 47% from deep.

He is doing all the stuff you'd expect, including flying from nowhere to contest 3-pointers. It must be unnerving to see Boucher and his elastic arms invading your airspace as you rise up. Boucher has blocked six triples in 11 games, per Second Spectrum. Matisse Thybulle led all players with 21 3-point rejections last season. Mitchell Robinson has the highest single-season total -- 24 -- since the introduction of tracking data in 2013. Draymond Green has the most (76) in that span. Boucher is on pace to block 39 3-pointers in 72 games!

It is very hard to score against Toronto with Boucher, Kyle Lowry, OG Anunoby and Pascal Siakam on the floor. The Raps have allowed just 103.7 points per 100 possessions with that quartet on the floor -- a tick stingier than the Lakers' top-ranked defense, per NBA.com. Toronto has needed every stop given its woes on the other end.

He also talks about Dort.

https://www.espn.com.au/nba/insider/story/_/id/30710857/ten-nba-things-like-including-awesome-lakers

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