mojo13 wrote: juli_rc wrote:
He usually says stuff like how team X is the best in the world even though they havent won anything and team Y sucks even though they won the tournament. So not sure results factor in to his fancy
Is that guy Mirotic12?
Yeah - but he has constantly preached that Greece has been pretty dog $#it with Giannis. That Giannis is very (VERY!) poorly suited to FIBA and Greece doesn't have the pieces to surround Giannis effectively. He has told us Greece is better off without Giannis as they can play the style that has historically made them pretty good. Hard to argue after seeing this (once again).
Serbia though? I'd like to hear his take on why they failed. To me it sure seemed like the coach has no clue what makes Jokic so good. Seems like there were bad chemistry issues as well with allot of dirty laundry being aired in the Serbian media.
I you remember, I actually was here for a long time telling you guys you really overrated Serbia. You were saying they were the 2nd or 3rd best team in the world and the best European team, and I kept telling you they were not.
Like I said, Serbia has very little depth in their program. Their national league is horribly bad, and they only produce a small amount of good players. They probably only have for instance, less than half the amount of good players that countries like Spain and Greece have. Even Lithuania, as small as the country is, has noticeably more depth of good players.
Serbia only has maybe 12-15 players in total available that can help their team that much in reality. Several of them are average level EuroLeague players or worse, they often have EuroCup level players having key roles. So if they miss just a couple players, their team consists of about half of their guys being average role players for EuroLeague (at best). I'm not talking about these are guys even at Pangos' level, clearly worse than that.
Their coach is also a quite lacking coach for a team that wants to win tournaments like this. Sasha Djordjevic was a great player, but he's very lacking as a basketball coach. He's not good enough IMO for any EuroLeague team to even be interested in him as a coach.
Against Spain, he got out coached by Scariolo, and I am sure this board will come at me hard for this also, but try to understand, Sergio Scariolo is one of the worst coaches Spanish national team has ever had, and he totally out coached Serbia coach.
Bottom line is, Serbia has been very overrated just because they made the finals of two world tournaments, through mainly total luck by how the brackets played out. Half of their key players are guys that no top EuroLeague team would want.
If you go back and look if you can find it, I kept telling you guys they were nowhere near as good as people here thought, and I remember no one agreeing with me. Fact is, they were never the best European team, and I guarantee that 100%.
With that being said, I think they should be able to beat this USA team, we will see how both teams react after bad losses.