Is Fred expecting to start here or get traded?

Metallikid · Post #1 » by **Metallikid** » Sat Dec 8, 2018 11:53 pm

What do you guys think is his angle here? Does he want to start over Kyle? Does he expect that if things don't work out this year with Kawhi that he'll start during our rebuild? Does he figure he'll be traded or does he want a trade? Is he just cocky and believes he can be Kemba-lite?

I really did not expect to hear this kind of rhetoric from a guy who clearly isn't a starter on a contending team, especially after the way he spoke to the media his first two years here.

https://ca.nba.com/news/toronto-raptors-fred-vanvleet-sixth-man-starter-kyle-lowry-future/179wnw23v1me51agkhzzxs6kga

Valard · Post #2 » by **Valard** » Sun Dec 9, 2018 12:00 am

"I'd love to stay in Toronto for the rest of my career," he said. "Obviously Kyle [Lowry] can't play forever so hopefully, we milk him for everything he's got and then, once he's done we'll see what happens. I love being in Toronto and I don't want to leave anytime soon."

Valard · Post #3 » by **Valard** » Sun Dec 9, 2018 12:01 am

Did you read the article or were you purposely just trying to stir the pot?

Inevitable · Post #4 » by **Inevitable** » Sun Dec 9, 2018 12:01 am

Unless it’s your niche like Lou Will, I’m pretty sure every player wants to be a starter in the league. He’s got a long way to go though.

RaptorPride · Post #5 » by **RaptorPride** » Sun Dec 9, 2018 12:01 am

This is the kinda energy you want from your players

ratul · Post #6 » by **ratul** » Sun Dec 9, 2018 12:05 am

We want Freddy TO believe in himself.

Jenga_tDot · Post #7 » by **Jenga_tDot** » Sun Dec 9, 2018 12:09 am

"Yeah, I'm going to be a starter, it's just a matter of when"

"I'm embracing my role and trying to be the best I can be in that," VanVleet said. "But I'm going to be a starter in this league very, very soon. I prepare like that every day and that's my mindset going forward."

Ridiculous... :crazy:

If this is what he thinks of himself its no wonder he's playing this selfishly...
:banghead:

Metallikid · Post #8 » by **Metallikid** » Sun Dec 9, 2018 12:09 am

Valard wrote:Did you read the article or were you purposely just trying to stir the pot?

When was the last time you heard a player say anything other than, "I want to be in X my whole career"? It's a talking point it doesn't mean anything anymore. Player's play the business game a lot more and a lot better than they used to when they actually answered questions sincerely more often.

Metallikid · Post #9 » by **Metallikid** » Sun Dec 9, 2018 12:11 am

RaptorPride wrote:This is the kinda energy you want from your players

So this is just the next step up from #betonyourself?

Post #10 » by **lebron stopper** » Sun Dec 9, 2018 12:15 am

Jenga_tDot wrote:
"Yeah, I'm going to be a starter, it's just a matter of when"

"I'm embracing my role and trying to be the best I can be in that," VanVleet said. "But I'm going to be a starter in this league very, very soon. I prepare like that every day and that's my mindset going forward."

Ridiculous...
If this is what he thinks of himself its no wonder he's playing this selfishly...

Friday Nov 16 against Celtics: VanVleet subbed halfway into overtime, Celtics expand their lead big-time.

Friday Dec 7 against Nets: VanVleet subbed halfway into overtime for JV, Jarrett Allen scores go-ahead basket that ends up being the deciding factor.

Did I mention that Ibaka looked like garbage offensively while coming off the bench last night? Wonder why...

rim_killa · Post #11 » by **rim_killa** » Sun Dec 9, 2018 12:26 am

Post #12 » by **7 Footer** » Sun Dec 9, 2018 12:31 am

Reminds me on Trashquez, thinking he was starter material, smfh

Lord_Zedd · Post #13 » by **Lord_Zedd** » Sun Dec 9, 2018 12:33 am

He can start for the Phoenix Suns

Johnny Bball · Post #14 » by **Johnny Bball** » Sun Dec 9, 2018 12:33 am

Metallikid wrote:What do you guys think is his angle here? Does he want to start over Kyle? Does he expect that if things don't work out this year with Kawhi that he'll start during our rebuild? Does he figure he'll be traded or does he want a trade? Is he just cocky and believes he can be Kemba-lite?

I really did not expect to hear this kind of rhetoric from a guy who clearly isn't a starter on a contending team, especially after the way he spoke to the media his first two years here.

https://ca.nba.com/news/toronto-raptors-fred-vanvleet-sixth-man-starter-kyle-lowry-future/179wnw23v1me51agkhzzxs6kga

Could he have stated it any more plainly so people wouldn't take it the wrong way?

Obviously Kyle [Lowry] can't play forever so hopefully, we milk him for everything he's got and then, once he's done we'll see what happens. I love being in Toronto and I don't want to leave anytime soon."

Post #15 » by **lebron stopper** » Sun Dec 9, 2018 12:33 am

7 Footer wrote:Reminds me on Trashquez, thinking he was starter material, smfh

at least Trashquez gave us Powell and Anunoby, tbh.

Post #16 » by **7 Footer** » Sun Dec 9, 2018 12:38 am

lebron stopper wrote:
7 Footer wrote:Reminds me on Trashquez, thinking he was starter material, smfh

at least Trashquez gave us Powell and Anunoby, tbh.

I'm pretty sure Fred can fetch us something pretty good if Masai were to dangle him around the League.

Metallikid · Post #17 » by **Metallikid** » Sun Dec 9, 2018 12:39 am

Johnny Bball wrote:
Metallikid wrote:What do you guys think is his angle here? Does he want to start over Kyle? Does he expect that if things don't work out this year with Kawhi that he'll start during our rebuild? Does he figure he'll be traded or does he want a trade? Is he just cocky and believes he can be Kemba-lite?

I really did not expect to hear this kind of rhetoric from a guy who clearly isn't a starter on a contending team, especially after the way he spoke to the media his first two years here.

https://ca.nba.com/news/toronto-raptors-fred-vanvleet-sixth-man-starter-kyle-lowry-future/179wnw23v1me51agkhzzxs6kga

Could he have stated it any more plainly so people wouldn't take it the wrong way?

Obviously Kyle [Lowry] can't play forever so hopefully, we milk him for everything he's got and then, once he's done we'll see what happens. I love being in Toronto and I don't want to leave anytime soon."

And you don't see where he contradicts himself?

"I'm going to be a starter very, very soon" vs "once [Kyle's] done we'll see what happens"

Very, very soon and the season after next when Kyle's deal expires are not compatible timelines. In fact, Kyle and FVV will be UFA that same offseason.

RaptorsLife · Post #18 » by **RaptorsLife** » Sun Dec 9, 2018 12:44 am

One can only hope

Boogie! · Post #19 » by **Boogie!** » Sun Dec 9, 2018 12:54 am

Jenga_tDot wrote:
"Yeah, I'm going to be a starter, it's just a matter of when"

"I'm embracing my role and trying to be the best I can be in that," VanVleet said. "But I'm going to be a starter in this league very, very soon. I prepare like that every day and that's my mindset going forward."

Ridiculous...
If this is what he thinks of himself its no wonder he's playing this selfishly...

Whatever team he's starting for is heading straight to the lottery

StopitLeo · Post #20 » by **StopitLeo** » Sun Dec 9, 2018 1:16 am

7 Footer wrote:
lebron stopper wrote:
7 Footer wrote:Reminds me on Trashquez, thinking he was starter material, smfh

at least Trashquez gave us Powell and Anunoby, tbh.

I'm pretty sure Fred can fetch us something pretty good if Masai were to dangle him around the League.

With only 2 years on a reasonable deal I think the Suns would take a look at him to see how he might be able to run their team.

I'd want Ariza back but that would necessitate sending someone like CJ out to a third team because the Suns aren't going to want his salary.