Is Lowry playing injured or purposely sabotaging the Raptors,

Brinbe · Post #41 » by **Brinbe** » Mon Dec 10, 2018 2:04 am

At this point, who the fk knows. That he's not even trying to attack the rim anymore has to be a worry.

BillyGM · Post #42 » by **BillyGM** » Mon Dec 10, 2018 2:06 am

Probably could get Wall for him

Raps in 4 · Post #43 » by **Raps in 4** » Mon Dec 10, 2018 2:13 am

BillyGM wrote:Probably could get Wall for him

Washington would jump at the offer. But we shouldn't.

People don't realize how bad Wall is and how much money he's owed.

Post #44 » by **Reeko** » Mon Dec 10, 2018 2:14 am

This theory that he's purposely throwing games is absurd. There is no one on the team that wants to win more than Lowry. There are probably a bunch that want to win as much, but none more. My theory is that his back is still hurting from being shoved into someone's knee during the GS game. Aside from his shooting slump from 3, he's also not driving and if you recall when he drives in for a lay up he tends to extend his whole body to the point where he's almost horizontal and ends up taking a fall. His reluctance to do this suggests, at least to me, that he is hurt. Nick Nurse said he wasn't injured, there is a difference between being injured and being hurt.

rotty · Post #45 » by **rotty** » Mon Dec 10, 2018 2:18 am

What incentive does he have to purposely play bad. thats an insane idea...

Playing bad makes him personally look bad

SurgeIblocka · Post #46 » by **SurgeIblocka** » Mon Dec 10, 2018 2:18 am

Lowry is a douche.
He is purposely sabotaging ever since EsPN all access you can tell he doesnt want to be here. Biatch cant even get layups like he use to, hes not even trying. He is trying to make the raps lose Kawhi. Its plain and simple!

Why would he sabotage you ask?
Well if Kawhi leaves it gives Demar and Lowry all the excuses to say i told you so!

gp2015 · Post #47 » by **gp2015** » Mon Dec 10, 2018 2:19 am

This is the exact same guy that prioritized playing in the all star game over resting his injured shoulder so I wouldn't put it past him.

NirvanaFC · Post #48 » by **NirvanaFC** » Mon Dec 10, 2018 2:24 am

If he's sabotaging, why is he still playing defense and taking charges? You guys are **** ridiculous.

StringerBell · Post #49 » by **StringerBell** » Mon Dec 10, 2018 2:26 am

Has any one of the journalists asked him why he's been so passive lately?

edit: never mind - here's a half-assed article by Zwelling

https://www.sportsnet.ca/basketball/nba/lowrys-offensive-slump-continues-loss-bucks/

Skeezo · Post #50 » by **Skeezo** » Mon Dec 10, 2018 2:28 am

This is nothing but bad karma coming to haunt Lowry... It was bad karma when Lowry went up to hug Casey and whispered in his ear "I'm gonna kick your ass" or something to that extent and we ended up losing to Detroit... It's bad karma when Lowry acts like a douche on ESPN slandering the organization and the man that have guaranteed you and your family over 130m for 6 years of service and now he's stuck slumping and regressing at the same time... Lowry is a superstitious dude, he should know better

See him in the last two post game interviews... Now he is Mr Humble... Anyways, while I give Lowry a hard time, I don't believe he is sabotaging or pouting.

jeffyjaixx · Post #51 » by **jeffyjaixx** » Mon Dec 10, 2018 2:28 am

Well, the silver lining is the longer Lowry plays like this, the more likely Masai will make a trade.

popfan · Post #52 » by **popfan** » Mon Dec 10, 2018 2:33 am

goinrogue wrote:What I don't understand is why if he's in a shooting slump is he just jacking threes? Why doesn't he go to the hoop for free throws or shoot some 2's to get his confidence up? Kyle has a reputation for being hard-headed and it makes me wonder if Nurse is afraid to hold him accountable.

This is an interesting response. What is happening behind closed doors? He's playing like he's the walking dead. But why? Perhaps he alienated his teammates. Perhaps he's struggling with Kawhi's stardom and Kawhi's anti-social tendency. Perhaps he's privately requested a trade and prematurely given up on the Raptors.

Kevin Willis · Post #53 » by **Kevin Willis** » Mon Dec 10, 2018 2:38 am

I doubt he's throwing games, that's not his personality, but the last three losses were on him. Also he's never had a "hot" stretch this season. He's had 0 games where he's scored over 20 pts back to back. 0. Last year at this time he had 3 and a stretch where he scored over 15 pts in 6 games straight.

One thing is clear is when he plays like this we lose. In the losses he's scored 9,4,14,14,5,3,0. Those are bench numbers. His 3 pt% is under 20% in the losses. I would like to say he does this against great teams but he did this against Brooklyn. I would like to say this happened after ESPN Raptors day but it was before that. He'll snap out of it but until then this 14 game tough streak that started off well is going to be very, very bad.

Valard · Post #54 » by **Valard** » Mon Dec 10, 2018 2:40 am

hype_2004 wrote:
xavis wrote:He's just not as good as his hot start earlier this year.

Yeah but he's throwing goose eggs the past 3 or 4 games, he never had this spell before, never.

He has definitely been brutal for lengthy stretches every year. I'm glad that this time its early in the year versus going into the playoffs

Natural11 · Post #55 » by **Natural11** » Mon Dec 10, 2018 2:42 am

goinrogue wrote:What I don't understand is why if he's in a shooting slump is he just jacking threes? Why doesn't he go to the hoop for free throws or shoot some 2's to get his confidence up? Kyle has a reputation for being hard-headed and it makes me wonder if Nurse is afraid to hold him accountable.

Say what you will about Casey, but he did have the balls to bench his star players if they weren't performing. Of course, the bench was a lot better last year and took over their fair share of games.

Either way, there's something up with him. He's so determined to pad his assist stats that he won't even attempt a lay-up if there's someone within 10 feet he can dish to. In my years of watching him, I've never seen this type of slump from him before.

I don't think he's given up. He's still playing hard defense, but given that it's December and not March, they should consider resting him a game or two and see if he can sort himself out.

yogimvp · Post #56 » by **yogimvp** » Mon Dec 10, 2018 2:43 am

i cant believe people are saying its just a slump. the worst players in the league can manage to score more points if given the same minutes as lowry.

he is either hiding a major injury or just being a little ***** to get back at masai

Brinbe · Post #57 » by **Brinbe** » Mon Dec 10, 2018 2:44 am

Everyone speculating on things but none of us really know, it could be anything... but it's weird how the actual team, the coaches/management. is seemingly not even really discussing it or rather, they're ignoring it. It's all weird and it's made weirder because we're all just outside looking in. And that they're just letting this play out so nonchalantly adds it it. His minutes aren't going down, his role is the same as ever, his teammates have carried on as if he's playing normally. But his struggles have been so pronounced.

It's just this giant elephant in the room that everyone there is ignoring. Why? To save his feelings? If it's an injury, give him time off. If it's something else, that's even more serious. But there's certainly nothing normal about his slump over the past few weeks, and we gotta get him right one way or another. Expecting him to just suddenly return to normal may not be the best option anymore, especially the longer this goes on.

We need an answer, a real one. Just acting like everything is fine, which they've been doing, is costing us games.

omar36 · Post #58 » by **omar36** » Mon Dec 10, 2018 3:13 am

Raps in 4 wrote:
BillyGM wrote:Probably could get Wall for him

Washington would jump at the offer. But we shouldn't.

People don't realize how bad Wall is and how much money he's owed.

over 40+ million avg for 4 years starting next season.

that is over 40 million for john wall for 4 years.
40 million :lol:

ImaBeatDatAzz · Post #59 » by **ImaBeatDatAzz** » Mon Dec 10, 2018 3:20 am

2 words: Mental Midget

jeffya2 · Post #60 » by **jeffya2** » Mon Dec 10, 2018 3:22 am

Rob Diaz wrote:He's playing against DeMar on January 3rd, it's likely been weighing him down .

He's more focused on his nightly calls to Demar