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TheBoi10 wrote:He's a good center but he doesn't get to the line often, has bad hands/dribbling and doesn't create his own shot.
Only guys I trust in the playoffs to be consistently solid are Kawhi, Pascal and maybe Delon.
alienchild wrote:Again, I hope the basketball gods give us the 14th pick in the draft. I hope OG asks for a trade, Birch signs elsewhere and GTJ signs an offer sheet and Raptors don't match. Frankly Masai is dead to me.
dTox wrote:for the "I told you so" guys, I think you are overlooking at how accurate he's been this season compared to prev. seasons, and this is not only due to him playing C, its also due to his sweat equity he's put in during the offseason..
Johnny Bball wrote:Yep. Ibaka is playing like he did before Steven Adams played his way into starting and changed WHERE Ibaka played on the floor. This has NEVER been about how Ibaka played but where he played. He moved further from the basket on both ends. So 1/3 of a season isn't even the relevant part, it the fact that they moved him back to a similar role, as years prior, to dominate.
He wasn't regressing last year. I don't know how many times I had to say it.... but you can all hear me say I told you so now. For those that were talking about his age.
Troubadour wrote:For some context...
Serge is averaging a career high in points (16.7)
the most OREBs since 2014-15
his highest FG% since 2012-13
a career high for free throw attempts per game
highest rebounds per game since 2014-15
best net rating since 2013-2014
32 dunks made this season (he had 45 all of last season. Continuing at this pace, he would finish with 90 dunks)
highest career usage rate
second highest career BPM
Pooh_Jeter wrote:Yes and no.
First off, he is shooting over 70% on 2 point jump shots beyond 16 feet which can't be sustainable. League average at those spots is around 40% depending on the zone.
The good thing is that the vast majority of his shots are coming inside the paint though so even if those numbers fall off it won't mean he is suddenly useless or anything. He is a good jump shooter from mid range regardless, so even with some regression those open looks will still be perfectly decent shots to take.
His 3 point shooting falling off is a concern, but I do have to say his overall shot IQ has improved immensely. He rarely takes ridiculous contested shots and off balance fadeaways like he did in years past. If his 3 point shooting ticks up it would more than make up for any regression in his mid range game.
As long as he is playing inside, grabbing offensive rebounds and protecting the rim he will be a positive contributor for this team. The problem is that come playoff time he is going to be under intense pressure to make plays. The Bucks playbook on defense is likely going to be utilized by all our opponents. Basically, make Serge make plays. He will have open looks, but you don't exactly want Ibaka taking 20 shots a game even if they are good looks. He has made some strides in terms of his playmaking and overall decision making, but it is still something he struggles with so that is another potential issue.
vini_vidi_vici wrote:And1Skip wrote:I find that pick and pop play, he's money every time as long as he shoots it right away in rhythm. When he takes one dribble to dodge the defender, he doesn't have as much success. Something to work on. I noticed that in shoot-around before last night's game he was working on his corner 3's and was hitting them regularly. He got that one look in the corner last night and nailed it. So all in all, all that work he's putting in is really paying off.
What if I told you, he shoots better off one dribble than C&S??
YelloC wrote:Pooh_Jeter wrote:Yes and no.
First off, he is shooting over 70% on 2 point jump shots beyond 16 feet which can't be sustainable. League average at those spots is around 40% depending on the zone.
The good thing is that the vast majority of his shots are coming inside the paint though so even if those numbers fall off it won't mean he is suddenly useless or anything. He is a good jump shooter from mid range regardless, so even with some regression those open looks will still be perfectly decent shots to take.
His 3 point shooting falling off is a concern, but I do have to say his overall shot IQ has improved immensely. He rarely takes ridiculous contested shots and off balance fadeaways like he did in years past. If his 3 point shooting ticks up it would more than make up for any regression in his mid range game.
As long as he is playing inside, grabbing offensive rebounds and protecting the rim he will be a positive contributor for this team. The problem is that come playoff time he is going to be under intense pressure to make plays. The Bucks playbook on defense is likely going to be utilized by all our opponents. Basically, make Serge make plays. He will have open looks, but you don't exactly want Ibaka taking 20 shots a game even if they are good looks. He has made some strides in terms of his playmaking and overall decision making, but it is still something he struggles with so that is another potential issue.
I’d like to see his shot chart. He seems to hit every shot near top of the key and they always have the same form. Rarely has he taken a shot outside of 1 of 3 spots, at least that’s what the eye test shows.
alienchild wrote:Again, I hope the basketball gods give us the 14th pick in the draft. I hope OG asks for a trade, Birch signs elsewhere and GTJ signs an offer sheet and Raptors don't match. Frankly Masai is dead to me.
