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Post#1 » by vini_vidi_vici » Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:57 pm

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Post#2 » by Yeezus_ » Wed Dec 12, 2018 4:02 pm

Im struggling to understand how to read the graph itself. Why is their overlap?
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Post#3 » by vini_vidi_vici » Wed Dec 12, 2018 4:04 pm

Yeezus_ wrote:Im struggling to understand how to read the graph itself. Why is their overlap?


Im not sure I understand your question, apologies.

Theres 48 mins in a game, its showing proportionally, how much they have led/been behind these teams over 48 mins.
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Post#4 » by Yeezus_ » Wed Dec 12, 2018 4:10 pm

vini_vidi_vici wrote:
Yeezus_ wrote:Im struggling to understand how to read the graph itself. Why is their overlap?


Im not sure I understand your question, apologies.

Theres 48 mins in a game, its showing proportionally, how much they have led/been behind these teams over 48 mins.

Sorry I get it now. At first I thought it was an average taken, which confused me as to why we could be leading a team by +10 but also be in a close game at the same time. But then I realized its on a per team basis so its stacked in the graph.

My bad, I get it though. Pretty cool graph to gauge how we fare against the better teams in the league.
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Post#5 » by XxIronChainzxX » Wed Dec 12, 2018 4:11 pm

vini_vidi_vici wrote:
Yeezus_ wrote:Im struggling to understand how to read the graph itself. Why is their overlap?


Im not sure I understand your question, apologies.

Theres 48 mins in a game, its showing proportionally, how much they have led/been behind these teams over 48 mins.


So the x-axis is effectively minutes in the game? Are these current SRS rankings?
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Post#6 » by vini_vidi_vici » Wed Dec 12, 2018 4:56 pm

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vini_vidi_vici wrote:
Yeezus_ wrote:Im struggling to understand how to read the graph itself. Why is their overlap?


Im not sure I understand your question, apologies.

Theres 48 mins in a game, its showing proportionally, how much they have led/been behind these teams over 48 mins.


So the x-axis is effectively minutes in the game? Are these current SRS rankings?


Ed Kupfer is usually pretty bang on, I would assume the rankings are current.

The x axis is at the very bottom, it goes by quarter (1/2/3/4).
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Post#7 » by XxIronChainzxX » Wed Dec 12, 2018 4:59 pm

vini_vidi_vici wrote:
XxIronChainzxX wrote:
vini_vidi_vici wrote:
Im not sure I understand your question, apologies.

Theres 48 mins in a game, its showing proportionally, how much they have led/been behind these teams over 48 mins.


So the x-axis is effectively minutes in the game? Are these current SRS rankings?


Ed Kupfer is usually pretty bang on, I would assume the rankings are current.

The x axis is at the very bottom, it goes by quarter (1/2/3/4).


This is very helpful. Thank you. I'm still working to parse the graph just because it's a new way to present the data.

I wish we could see the comparison of games where we rest Kawhi vs. games were we do not.
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Post#8 » by shmoosicle » Wed Dec 12, 2018 5:14 pm

Not bad so far.
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Post#10 » by team edward » Wed Dec 12, 2018 5:40 pm

Denver is owning things right now.

Raps actually look pretty good, no? Relative to the East.

And yesterday without Kawhi, previously with a terrible Kyle.
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Doncic is a generational player and worthy to fill the big shoes left by Dirk.
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Post#12 » by Lukeem » Wed Dec 12, 2018 5:41 pm

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Post#13 » by XxIronChainzxX » Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:10 pm

VanWest82 wrote:Milwaukee is terrifying.


I would be careful about drawing inferences. They currently have one of the GOAT SRS scores to date. It is simply very hard to tell.
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Post#14 » by VanWest82 » Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:17 pm

XxIronChainzxX wrote:
VanWest82 wrote:Milwaukee is terrifying.


I would be careful about drawing inferences. They currently have one of the GOAT SRS scores to date. It is simply very hard to tell.


They're terrifying because they're the one team in the East with a player as good as our best player, and they're a brutal match up for us at the other positions as well. They have all the markings of a Raptors killer. Big guards who play way above their heads against our little guards. Not good, but great three point shooting. Lots of good passers up and down the roster. A big in Lopez that we've never had an answer for going back to his Nets days. Bucks are the biggest threat.
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Post#15 » by dacrusha » Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:18 pm

Det and Was beating up on poor teams, but getting shook vs more elite.

Indiana and Clippers also pretenders.
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Post#16 » by dacrusha » Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:21 pm

VanWest82 wrote:
XxIronChainzxX wrote:
VanWest82 wrote:Milwaukee is terrifying.


I would be careful about drawing inferences. They currently have one of the GOAT SRS scores to date. It is simply very hard to tell.


They're terrifying because they're the one team in the East with a player as good as our best player, and they're a brutal match up for us at the other positions as well. They have all the markings of a Raptors killer. Big guards who play way above their heads against our little guards. Not good, but great three point shooting. Lots of good passers up and down the roster. A big in Lopez that we've never had an answer for going back to his Nets days. Bucks are the biggest threat.


Bucks had to rely on Lowry putting up a goose-egg to squeak out a victory last Sunday.

In a 7-game series with HCA, we would take them.
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Post#17 » by VanWest82 » Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:23 pm

dacrusha wrote:
VanWest82 wrote:
XxIronChainzxX wrote:
I would be careful about drawing inferences. They currently have one of the GOAT SRS scores to date. It is simply very hard to tell.


They're terrifying because they're the one team in the East with a player as good as our best player, and they're a brutal match up for us at the other positions as well. They have all the markings of a Raptors killer. Big guards who play way above their heads against our little guards. Not good, but great three point shooting. Lots of good passers up and down the roster. A big in Lopez that we've never had an answer for going back to his Nets days. Bucks are the biggest threat.


Bucks had to rely on Lowry putting up a goose-egg to squeak out a victory last Sunday.

In a 7-game series with HCA, we would take them.


Hope so. I think you could argue we should be favored against any East opponent. I'd still put Bucks at the top of the list though.
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Post#18 » by LiSTWithLani » Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:17 pm

XxIronChainzxX wrote:
vini_vidi_vici wrote:
XxIronChainzxX wrote:
So the x-axis is effectively minutes in the game? Are these current SRS rankings?


Ed Kupfer is usually pretty bang on, I would assume the rankings are current.

The x axis is at the very bottom, it goes by quarter (1/2/3/4).


This is very helpful. Thank you. I'm still working to parse the graph just because it's a new way to present the data.

I wish we could see the comparison of games where we rest Kawhi vs. games were we do not.

Not to point at the elephant in the room, but GSW would look better with all of their stars playing too.
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Post#19 » by XxIronChainzxX » Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:17 pm

lstern wrote:
XxIronChainzxX wrote:
vini_vidi_vici wrote:
Ed Kupfer is usually pretty bang on, I would assume the rankings are current.

The x axis is at the very bottom, it goes by quarter (1/2/3/4).


This is very helpful. Thank you. I'm still working to parse the graph just because it's a new way to present the data.

I wish we could see the comparison of games where we rest Kawhi vs. games were we do not.

Not to point at the elephant in the room, but GSW would look better with all of their stars playing too.


Sure. I think GSW is just a write off for any RS advanced stat since they're basically **** around until the post seasons starts (and even then).
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Post#20 » by old skool » Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:31 pm

My biggest take away from that graph is that the Raptors are tied for the 9th best record against top SRS 10 teams. I would have thought that the team with the best W-L record in the NBA would fare better than that against the best competition. I wonder if that improves when Leonard stops taking games off for rest.

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