why did the bucks and 76ers go ALL in this season?

[TorontoRapsFan]

sixers all in should have been AD

[RaptorHooter]

Cause they know we're waiting for them.

[HomieOmey]

Bucks gave up a bunch of 2nds. Raptors still own all their 1sts except next year's which will be like the 29th pick. Only team that went all in were the 76ers.

Haha seriously. There's no real move the Bucks could make that would have them going "all in." That being said, I'm sure they see this as an unexpected chance to make the finals and convince a lot of players that it would be smart to join the run. Curious if teams like the Lakers and Clippers go after Middleton.

[alienchild]

I don't think it makes sense. Nothing makes sense, anymore.

That's OP's specialty.

[Bank Shot]

Philly is still setup well for the long-run with these moves. They haven't really given up any significant long-term pieces.
The Bucks would be crazy not to go for it this year. They've been the best team in the league by a fair amount. Ya, the Warriors would be favorites, but with how the Bucks play, they would have a legit shot. They would just have to get hot from deep in four of seven games (see Spurs v. Heat in 2014).

[Volcano]

Going all in would mean selling out their future to get better now. Neither have done that.

[ratul]

Philly is the strange one if they don’t resign all those guys

[johanliebert]

They did what the raptors won’t..add talent at the wing position

[76ciology]

1.) uncertainty on the availability of star players after this wave. I dont see a set of star wings after the traded ones this season. I also dont see bucks or sixers winning the kd or kawhi fa lottery
2.) gsw looks like the tower of babel with the dmc move then rumors of Kd leaving with the sharp decline of draymond and a struggling klay
3.) bucks built a very special team and are just moving according to the momentum while sixers has a limited window until ben’s max extension while they’re just capitalizing on clips and wolves direction of wanting to dispose tobias and butler

[rapsdontlie]

PS I also this what clippers did was intentional because they gave a lot more than the actual value of the trade. "after 6ers and raptors game LA probably encouraged 6ers to go all in and traded their best raptors killers as a free bonus, and said, "heres extra 2 players you can keep along with Tobias. in return we just want you to eliminate raptors so that we could sign kawhi"

I never heard this theory before but you could be on to something here. Assuming it's true, it might backfire though. Kawhi may catch on to what they did and not want to be a part of a sneaky organization like that. Similar to what happened with the Nash free agency when the Raps signed Laundry Fields just to screw over the Knicks so they couldn't sign him. IMO, that likely played a huge part in Nash signing with the Lakers instead of us. It's hard to trust sneaky organizations like that.

[JShuttlesworth]

Bucks and Sixers haven't gone all in the same way we have. If Kawhi leaves the ride is all but over for us - The old core is gone.

I like what both of those teams have done to bulk up for the playoffs.

[binjumper]

Cap space. Both teams are going to have issue next year with it. I think the bucks alone are going to have 5 guys needing contracts.

[Rapsalot]

With no LeBron and Boston not looking smooth these too 5 teams say hey let’s get to finals. Only Indy not there with Victor going down. But they even added.

[hankscorpioLA]

The Sixers aren't necessarily all in this year. They weren't in a position to have enough cap space to be a big player in free agency next year so they acquired a player they can exceed the cap for.

[SFour]

Bucks and Sixers haven't gone all in the same way we have. If Kawhi leaves the ride is all but over for us - The old core is gone.

I like what both of those teams have done to bulk up for the playoffs.

Butler and Tobias can leave just like Kawhi can. These guys want to get paid the max.

[Johnny Bball]

Elton Brand stated that he realized that the championship window for the Philadelphia 76ers was open after seeing how much Joel Embiid and Ben Simmons improved over the summer.

“So the window is now. The opportunity is now. So once I saw that [Embiid and Simmons improved over the summer], we discussed taking a shot at it now, because who knows how long that window is going to be open?”

Elton Brand really said this.

[Johnny Bball]

Bucks and Sixers haven't gone all in the same way we have. If Kawhi leaves the ride is all but over for us - The old core is gone.

I like what both of those teams have done to bulk up for the playoffs.

Butler and Tobias can leave just like Kawhi can. These guys want to get paid the max.

bucks entire starting lineup minus giannis are free agents.

[Basketball_Jones]

Demar left the conference so everyone in the East thinks they can make the finals now.

[sidsid]

1.) uncertainty on the availability of star players after this wave. I dont see a set of star wings after the traded ones this season. I also dont see bucks or sixers winning the kd or kawhi fa lottery
2.) gsw looks like the tower of babel with the dmc move then rumors of Kd leaving with the sharp decline of draymond and a struggling klay
3.) bucks built a very special team and are just moving according to the momentum while sixers has a limited window until ben’s max extension while they’re just capitalizing on clips and wolves direction of wanting to dispose tobias and butler

The first point is accurate I think. The Sixers struck out on LeBron et al last year, and now all the speculation is going towards the LA and NY teams. They're taking a calculated risk on bringing these guys together and selling them on the team now instead of just hoping an FA decides to join them.

I think it was the right risk to take considering they were on the outside looking in on expected rumours/destinations and running out of runway after this year.

The Bucks don't have a ton to work with, since their entire team is expiring. It was just a relatively low cost move to add to what they're already doing this year. The whole team might be different next year.

[Yosemite Dan]

Bucks don’t want to lose Giannis, 76ers don’t want to lose butler

They’ll pay Tobias before they pay Butler whose not a max player anymore. Butler’s going to the Lakers, only team dumb enough to give him the max.





Besides the Knicks