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Ibaka: 25.5mpg, -0.4bpm

DeRozan may end up having the best year of his career.

everdiso wrote:Some things never change.

Ibaka: 25.5mpg, -0.4bpm

Net Rating: +9.4
2020 Playoffs BPM: Highest on the team

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Mikistan wrote:Biyombo seemingly upset that rookie Lamelo passed up an open shot to bridges chasing a triple double in a close game

they ended upw inning anyway

Lmao

hsb wrote:

Mikistan wrote:Biyombo seemingly upset that rookie Lamelo passed up an open shot to bridges chasing a triple double in a close game

they ended upw inning anyway

Lmao

Trouble brewing let's bring Biyombo home, they will be looking to get rid of him if he can't get along with the star rookie

gasol is so unfair with bron when they are on lol

JV dropped 24/16/1/2 and the Grizzlies, despite not having JJJ/Winslow/Morant for all or a large part of the season so far, are 5-6.

update:

Ibaka 25.6mpg, -1.6bpm
Gasol 19.7mpg, +0.7bpm

everdiso wrote:update:

Ibaka 25.6mpg, -1.6bpm
Gasol 19.7mpg, +0.7bpm

Gasol's got to have something to do with Lakers being #1 defensive team in the league so far.

My brain is swelling to understand the logic to let Ibaka walk because of second year Clippers offered and we did not. All this for a pipe dream that Yannis will sign here .... (even if he wanted to leave and did not signed with Bucks he would NEVER consider us, as we are now...).


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TorontoRapsFan wrote:

everdiso wrote:update:

Ibaka 25.6mpg, -1.6bpm
Gasol 19.7mpg, +0.7bpm

Gasol's got to have something to do with Lakers being #1 defensive team in the league so far.

Disagree, he barely plays over 19 minutes per game and is having the worst numbers of his career. His PER sets him well outside the top 150 players in the league as well. He was amazing in the 2019 season for the Raps but he’s fallen off a cliff and it was a damn good move to dump him. Letting Ibaka go was much worse.

Georgios Printezis turns 36 next month.

I am old.

Morris_Shatford wrote:Georgios Printezis turns 36 next month.

I am old.

DeeAndre Hulett is 40

BoyzNTheHood wrote:

Morris_Shatford wrote:Georgios Printezis turns 36 next month.

I am old.

DeeAndre Hulett is 40

But is he staying in game shape?
We could always use a seasoned 2 and sorta D wing.

Rust_Cohle wrote:

TorontoRapsFan wrote:

everdiso wrote:update:

Ibaka 25.6mpg, -1.6bpm
Gasol 19.7mpg, +0.7bpm

Gasol's got to have something to do with Lakers being #1 defensive team in the league so far.

Disagree, he barely plays over 19 minutes per game and is having the worst numbers of his career. His PER sets him well outside the top 150 players in the league as well. He was amazing in the 2019 season for the Raps but he’s fallen off a cliff and it was a damn good move to dump him. Letting Ibaka go was much worse.

Gasol was a total bust his last season with raps and now with Lakers... but fan boys gonna pump....

Kingsway_fan wrote:

Rust_Cohle wrote:

TorontoRapsFan wrote:
Gasol's got to have something to do with Lakers being #1 defensive team in the league so far.

Disagree, he barely plays over 19 minutes per game and is having the worst numbers of his career. His PER sets him well outside the top 150 players in the league as well. He was amazing in the 2019 season for the Raps but he’s fallen off a cliff and it was a damn good move to dump him. Letting Ibaka go was much worse.

Gasol was a total bust his last season with raps and now with Lakers... but fan boys gonna pump....

Last year Gasol was first in the league in Defrtg amongst Cs. He also posted a 10.1 netrtg, placing him second in the league. So far this year he's 10th in Defrtg, and 6th in netrtg with 11.3. And his placing is actually 9th and 5th really cause one player is up there with 2 games played, Kevin Love. Fan boys gonna pump

Alex Len in 7 games with Wizards: 14.7 MPG, 6.0 PPG, 4.4 RPG, 1.7 APG. 62.5 FG%

Alex Len in 7 games with Raps: 10.8 MPG, 2.3 PPG, 1.6 RPG, 0.4 APG, 50.0 FG%.

TorontoRapsFan wrote:

Kingsway_fan wrote:

Rust_Cohle wrote:
Disagree, he barely plays over 19 minutes per game and is having the worst numbers of his career. His PER sets him well outside the top 150 players in the league as well. He was amazing in the 2019 season for the Raps but he’s fallen off a cliff and it was a damn good move to dump him. Letting Ibaka go was much worse.

Gasol was a total bust his last season with raps and now with Lakers... but fan boys gonna pump....

Last year Gasol was first in the league in Defrtg amongst Cs. He also posted a 10.1 netrtg, placing him second in the league. So far this year he's 10th in Defrtg, and 6th in netrtg with 11.3. And his placing is actually 9th and 5th really cause one player is up there with 2 games played, Kevin Love. Fan boys gonna pump

He’s not tenth in defensive rating:

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/def_rtg_top_10.html

He’s been brutal this season and outside top 150 on PER. He’s having the worst stretch of his career which is understandable as he’s been brutal after being one of the worst playoff performers last season onward.

Even on the RAPTOR rating he only places a below average 122 in the league:

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/nba-player-ratings/

He’s washed up at this point and that’s fine, he’s old now. But it was a good move for the Raps to let him go despite their frontline issues.

Rust_Cohle wrote:

TorontoRapsFan wrote:

Kingsway_fan wrote:
Gasol was a total bust his last season with raps and now with Lakers... but fan boys gonna pump....

Last year Gasol was first in the league in Defrtg amongst Cs. He also posted a 10.1 netrtg, placing him second in the league. So far this year he's 10th in Defrtg, and 6th in netrtg with 11.3. And his placing is actually 9th and 5th really cause one player is up there with 2 games played, Kevin Love. Fan boys gonna pump

He’s not tenth in defensive rating:

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/def_rtg_top_10.html

He’s been brutal this season and outside top 150 on PER. He’s having the worst stretch of his career which is understandable as he’s been brutal after being one of the worst playoff performers last season onward.

Even on the RAPTOR rating he only places a below average 122 in the league:

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/nba-player-ratings/

He’s washed up at this point and that’s fine, he’s old now. But it was a good move for the Raps to let him go despite their frontline issues.

The ratings I talked about are between Cs. Kind of doesn't make sense to compare defensive rating of Cs and guards/forwards. Pretty big difference in their role. PER is box score number dependent. Gasol is valued for his contributions that don't show up so much on the box score. He's playing the C position 20mpg on the number 1 defensive team in the league. Believe it or not, he is contributing to that.

TorontoRapsFan wrote:

Rust_Cohle wrote:

TorontoRapsFan wrote:
Last year Gasol was first in the league in Defrtg amongst Cs. He also posted a 10.1 netrtg, placing him second in the league. So far this year he's 10th in Defrtg, and 6th in netrtg with 11.3. And his placing is actually 9th and 5th really cause one player is up there with 2 games played, Kevin Love. Fan boys gonna pump

He’s not tenth in defensive rating:

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/def_rtg_top_10.html

He’s been brutal this season and outside top 150 on PER. He’s having the worst stretch of his career which is understandable as he’s been brutal after being one of the worst playoff performers last season onward.

Even on the RAPTOR rating he only places a below average 122 in the league:

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/nba-player-ratings/

He’s washed up at this point and that’s fine, he’s old now. But it was a good move for the Raps to let him go despite their frontline issues.

The ratings I talked about are between Cs. Kind of doesn't make sense to compare defensive rating of Cs and guards/forwards. Pretty big difference in their role. PER is box score number dependent. Gasol is valued for his contributions that don't show up so much on the box score. He's playing the C position 20mpg on the number 1 defensive team in the league. Believe it or not, he is contributing to that.

Amongst C's he fares very poorly:

https://www.lineups.com/nba/player-stats/marc-gasol

If you actually watch the Lakers, you'll see he's insanely slow, terrible at guarding the pick and roll and a terrible rebounder at this stage of his career.

Even Laker blogs are turning on him:

https://lakeshowlife.com/2021/01/30/los-angeles-lakers-rumors-marc-gasol-starter/