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2019 Off-Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread

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Re: 2019 Off-Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread 

Post#1621 » by RaptorPride » Sun Aug 11, 2019 5:02 am

Red_Claw wrote:If Masai didn't sign Carter, he definitely ain't signing Carmelo.

One of those players actually has gas in the tank.

I just have this feeling Masai is saving bring back a former player for DeMar.
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Re: 2019 Off-Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread 

Post#1622 » by ThunderBolt » Sun Aug 11, 2019 10:43 pm

Just setting here thinking about nba franchises and what you guys were able to accomplish this year. I’ve got a lot of respect for the raptor franchise. The general board is a cesspool of hate. Masai is legit and I’ll be rooting for you guys to get the next star to build and siakam. Carry on.
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Re: 2019 Off-Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread 

Post#1623 » by LoveMyRaps » Sun Aug 11, 2019 11:56 pm

Would y'all flip Ibaka for Steven Adams?

I think he has the potential to become one of the best passing big men in today's game.
Unfortunately, he can't shoot 3s. But he's only 26, and Ibaka never developed a 3pt shot until his 6th season.
We can afford to experiment with Adams a little bit, considering he only has 2 years left on that contract.
He offers elite defense, rebounding, and above averaging passing skills at his position.

I still consider him a prospect. Therefore, if we can turn him into an elite starting big man that can offer us spacing once in a while, we can resign him after his 2 years up. Otherwise, we can let him walk & still afford to pursue our 2021 Free Agency Class fantasies with our mouth watering cap-space.

It's somewhat of a lateral move that I actually see benefiting both teams.
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Re: 2019 Off-Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread 

Post#1624 » by agkagk » Mon Aug 12, 2019 3:51 pm

edgehead411 wrote:I'd take a flyer on Melo.

That second unit needs a bit of a ball hog tbh. I have no doubts that Carmelo can still play in today's nba. Not to mention our system/culture is infectious



you bring up a good point.


I wonder if there is something to this.

If the raptors are able to rehabilitate Carmelo; our status/respect within player circles would only skyrocket further.
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Re: 2019 Off-Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread 

Post#1625 » by DangerZone13 » Mon Aug 12, 2019 5:29 pm

LoveMyRaps wrote:Would y'all flip Ibaka for Steven Adams?

I think he has the potential to become one of the best passing big men in today's game.
Unfortunately, he can't shoot 3s. But he's only 26, and Ibaka never developed a 3pt shot until his 6th season.
We can afford to experiment with Adams a little bit, considering he only has 2 years left on that contract.
He offers elite defense, rebounding, and above averaging passing skills at his position.

I still consider him a prospect. Therefore, if we can turn him into an elite starting big man that can offer us spacing once in a while, we can resign him after his 2 years up. Otherwise, we can let him walk & still afford to pursue our 2021 Free Agency Class fantasies with our mouth watering cap-space.

It's somewhat of a lateral move that I actually see benefiting both teams.


I actually love this idea, given that he could work with Marc Gasol for the year (maybe bring Gasol back for 1 more year after this off the bench and the can tutor Adams and the other bigs) Adams doesn't have the mind Gasol does, but some quality tutoring could really benefit the team. As said, he's still fairly young, and if he adds a confident 3, our starting front court is locked down. It also suits our '21 window.
What are the odds OKC would be down, and what, if anything, would we need to add?
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Re: 2019 Off-Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread 

Post#1626 » by TheBoi10 » Mon Aug 12, 2019 5:30 pm

I guess a Wall/Beal/Siakam big 3 is ight. Not a fan of Wall's personality tho.

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Re: 2019 Off-Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread 

Post#1627 » by Asif16 » Mon Aug 12, 2019 5:33 pm

TheBoi10 wrote:I guess a Wall/Beal/Siakam big 3 is ight. Not a fan of Wall's personality tho.

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Re: 2019 Off-Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread 

Post#1628 » by TheBoi10 » Mon Aug 12, 2019 5:44 pm

Asif16 wrote:
TheBoi10 wrote:I guess a Wall/Beal/Siakam big 3 is ight. Not a fan of Wall's personality tho.

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lmao that is not a legit source


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Re: 2019 Off-Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread 

Post#1629 » by Morse Code » Mon Aug 12, 2019 5:59 pm

Melo is trash. Like net negative on his best day.
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Re: 2019 Off-Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread 

Post#1630 » by Raps1103 » Mon Aug 12, 2019 6:19 pm

First Take wrote:We could use Carmelo for offense. I am sure he would be open to play for the Raptors considering no team is offering anything.


There's a reason NO TEAM is offering him anything .. egotistical, ball hog, volume shooter, cancer!
2-3 teams have WAVED him!! He’s less than trash !
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Re: 2019 Off-Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread 

Post#1631 » by OAKLEY_2 » Mon Aug 12, 2019 11:35 pm

Asif16 wrote:
TheBoi10 wrote:I guess a Wall/Beal/Siakam big 3 is ight. Not a fan of Wall's personality tho.

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lmao that is not a legit source


We will not touch Wall. Adams maybe.
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Re: 2019 Off-Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread 

Post#1632 » by StringerBell » Tue Aug 13, 2019 5:20 pm

Why would they trade either expiring contract of Ibaka or Gasol to take on an additional year of Adams? I'll pass on paying a big in today's game that can't either space the floor or protect the rim 27 mil.

And hell no to Wall, even if Beal comes with him.
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Re: 2019 Off-Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread 

Post#1633 » by gerrit4 » Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:28 pm

StringerBell wrote:Why would they trade either expiring contract of Ibaka or Gasol to take on an additional year of Adams? I'll pass on paying a big in today's game that can't either space the floor or protect the rim 27 mil.

And hell no to Wall, even if Beal comes with him.


Well to both notes:

I can't see us possibly getting Wall/Beal. I mean, to match that salary we'd be giving up probably Lowry/Ibaka (or Gasol), along with whatever additional assets the Wiz require. Assuming Wall doesn't play this year, that team doesn't exactly seem like a contender, and then we lose any cap flexibility in the future by having those two huge contracts on the books. We'd basically become Wizards 2.0 (although obviously with a much better GM to find players to build around them).

I also don't see the point in getting Adams. I'm not quite sure getting him makes us better in the present, and he's not exactly a building block for the future. The centre position is starting to look like a mercenary position, and there seems to be mediocre centres available for cheap whenever you need them. I like him, and I'd be fine with getting him I guess. I just don't see how it fits either timeline - it makes us a bit worse this season, and I'm not sure I'd want his salary here if we're rebuilding.
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Re: 2019 Off-Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread 

Post#1634 » by Raptors_128 » Wed Aug 14, 2019 1:55 am

TheBoi10 wrote:I guess a Wall/Beal/Siakam big 3 is ight. Not a fan of Wall's personality tho.

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I wouldn't mind this if we can make it a 4-team trade.

Toronto-Miami-OKC-Washington

Washington trades Wall + Beal + filler (for roster spots) for OG + Winslow + Powell + Ibaka + Waiters + 2022 Raps 1st + 2020 OKC 2nd

OKC trades CP3 + 2020 OKC 2nd for Wall + Boucher + 2020 Raps 1st

Miami trades Winslow + Waiters + Johnson for CP3 + 2020 Raps 2nd + 2023 Raps 2nd

Toronto trades OG + Powell + Ibaka + Boucher + 2020 Raps 1st + 2022 Raps 1st + 2020 Raps 2nd + 2023 Raps 2nd for Beal + Johnson
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Re: 2019 Off-Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread 

Post#1635 » by TheAlchemist » Wed Aug 14, 2019 4:06 am

I don't believe this jackass, but this is a trade that anyone can guess and most likely can realistically happen.

We have 3 major expiring contracts, a lot of young pieces, and some really flexibility.

I think if Masai really is trying to swing for this trade, we're out of the Giannis race unfortunately.

Also, John Wall is FAR from salvageble. That's it for him. I read about all his injuries and i'm petrified for him. He's also gain weight, couldn't even WALK for months on end and he's about to hit 30.

He will be lucky to be 40% of the player he was. He also got extremely fat, obviously, from no conditioning.

So depending on the assets we give up for beal, we can have a group of;

Siakim
Beal
Fred

or

Siakim
OG
Beal

and limited cap space.
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Re: 2019 Off-Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread 

Post#1636 » by LJKO » Wed Aug 14, 2019 4:57 am

ThunderBolt wrote:Just setting here thinking about nba franchises and what you guys were able to accomplish this year. I’ve got a lot of respect for the raptor franchise. The general board is a cesspool of hate. Masai is legit and I’ll be rooting for you guys to get the next star to build and siakam. Carry on.

One of my life long dream as a Raptors fan is complete because we won a championship but I have another or 1 other dream as a Raptors fan and that is to finally get a Superstar like a MJ/Kobe/Kawhi/Giannis/Lebron/etc to be born as a Raptors from the start to the end.
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Re: 2019 Off-Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread 

Post#1637 » by TheBoi10 » Wed Aug 14, 2019 4:08 pm

I wonder if we can get Zach Lavine for cheap.

He's becoming a greatish scorer, Lowry and company can help him improve his pick and roll game by picking up some tricks.
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Re: 2019 Off-Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread 

Post#1638 » by sportsyard » Wed Aug 14, 2019 5:32 pm

Beal and Masai have been linked together for awhile... apparently they know each other from charity work in DC.
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Re: 2019 Off-Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread 

Post#1639 » by sportsyard » Wed Aug 14, 2019 5:32 pm

TheBoi10 wrote:I wonder if we can get Zach Lavine for cheap.

He's becoming a greatish scorer, Lowry and company can help him improve his pick and roll game by picking up some tricks.


Lavine is awful defensively, doesn't match a raptors development type player
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Re: 2019 Off-Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread 

Post#1640 » by sportsyard » Wed Aug 14, 2019 5:33 pm

Dejonte Murray this off season would be an excellent target. Max him out with Siakam and then hope for Giannis

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