Predict our win total.

[MixxSRC]

40-45 wins

[vbmeer]

Will Patrick McCaw have more made FGs than Raptors wins this season?

[Oakville_Raptor]

lol at anyone saying 40-45 wins after todays game...clear overreaction.

[UneducatedFan86]

I think it really depends on what Masai decides to do at the deadline. If we start off sluggish and there is some decent interest in our vets/expirings, then I could see us making long-term moves and that would bring our win total down.

If everything goes well: 44-47ish
If things go south: 30-35

[Chandan]

42 wins

lowry and Marc are getting up there in age. They are going to miss a few games here and there. Those will be automatic losses.

[Oakville_Raptor]

Man...this fanbase is depressing lol

[yellowknifer]

Will break 60 wins finally. 62 behind continued development and vets with a lot in the tank. Elite D. Elite O still. Depth still a plus. The east is strong at the top but weak at the bottom. Should find a lot of relatively easy wins. Team still has the personel to be an incredible defensive team.

[Air Canada]

There's still a lot of talent on this team. And a bunch of young guys with a lot of potential. I'm gonna say 49

[Westside Gunn]

34.50

[Realkeeper]

53 - 58.

If I compare this squad to the 2017 - 2018 squad (which won 59 games), I can't see why there would be a drastic difference in win total... the bench is weaker this year, but the starting group is better. Plus, the key players got some valuable experience last season.

[MixxSRC]

We lost Kawhi and Danny Green and didn't replace that production with new additions. Of course it's impossible but we didn't replace it even a little bit. How you can say 50 wins is beyond me. People forget the insane drop in production that Kyle had some months last year. Last year we could manage that. This year we don't.

[pingpongrac]

We lost Kawhi and Danny Green and didn't replace that production with new additions. Of course it's impossible but we didn't replace it even a little bit. How you can say 50 wins is beyond me. People forget the insane drop in production that Kyle had some months last year. Last year we could manage that. This year we don't.

- further improvement of Siakam and FVV
- expanded role/further improvement of Powell and OG
- a full season of Gasol (assuming no injury, we won't be forced into playing a Monroe-type 15-20 MPG for ~20 games) with an expanding role, not playing conservatively adjusting to a new team with a superstar already on it

Those are a few reasons for high hopes. You have to remember that Kawhi played just 60 games last year and we had numerous other injury issues (JV for two months, Lowry missing 17 games, FVV missing 18 games, OG missing 15 games, etc.). That may happen again, but the injury bug was pretty bad for us last year.

Winning 50+ isn't a lock by any means, but ~50 wins is far more reasonable than the people thinking we'll miss the playoffs and/or barely be a .500 team.

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[2019nbachamps]

We lost Kawhi and Danny Green and didn't replace that production with new additions. Of course it's impossible but we didn't replace it even a little bit. How you can say 50 wins is beyond me. People forget the insane drop in production that Kyle had some months last year. Last year we could manage that. This year we don't.

- further improvement of Siakam and FVV
- expanded role/further improvement of Powell and OG
- a full season of Gasol (assuming no injury, we won't be forced into playing a Monroe-type 15-20 MPG for ~20 games) with an expanding role, not playing conservatively adjusting to a new team with a superstar already on it

Those are a few reasons for high hopes. You have to remember that Kawhi played just 60 games last year and we had numerous other injury issues (JV for two months, Lowry missing 17 games, FVV missing 18 games, OG missing 15 games, etc.). That may happen again, but the injury bug was pretty bad for us last year.

Winning 50+ isn't a lock by any means, but ~50 wins is far more reasonable than the people thinking we'll miss the playoffs and/or barely be a .500 team.

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Forget about Danny Green...we lost one of the top 5 players in the NBA. We have no one capable of filling that void. Siakam might average 5 more PPG but that won't be enough. You talk about Gasol but in the regular season he was as productive as JV so consider his presence a wash. There's no escaping the fact we're weaker this year than last and while many of our fans are still riding the title high, they are forgetting how often we struggled last year when Kawhi wasn't carrying the offensive load. We're still going to make the playoffs easily but I cannot fathom us winning 50+ games. I don't want people coming back at the end of the season saying we fell short of 50 wins due to injuries and other excuses. Our team is extremely weak at the 2 and 3 which is going to hurt us all season. In fact, I can't recall the last time in our history we were this bad in those positions; probably not since we traded Vince.

[everdiso]

We lost Kawhi and Danny Green and didn't replace that production with new additions. Of course it's impossible but we didn't replace it even a little bit. How you can say 50 wins is beyond me. People forget the insane drop in production that Kyle had some months last year. Last year we could manage that. This year we don't.

- further improvement of Siakam and FVV
- expanded role/further improvement of Powell and OG
- a full season of Gasol (assuming no injury, we won't be forced into playing a Monroe-type 15-20 MPG for ~20 games) with an expanding role, not playing conservatively adjusting to a new team with a superstar already on it

Those are a few reasons for high hopes. You have to remember that Kawhi played just 60 games last year and we had numerous other injury issues (JV for two months, Lowry missing 17 games, FVV missing 18 games, OG missing 15 games, etc.). That may happen again, but the injury bug was pretty bad for us last year.

Winning 50+ isn't a lock by any means, but ~50 wins is far more reasonable than the people thinking we'll miss the playoffs and/or barely be a .500 team.

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Forget about Danny Green...we lost one of the top 5 players in the NBA. We have no one capable of filling that void. Siakam might average 5 more PPG but that won't be enough. You talk about Gasol but in the regular season he was as productive as JV so consider his presence a wash. There's no escaping the fact we're weaker this year than last and while many of our fans are still riding the title high, they are forgetting how often we struggled last year when Kawhi wasn't carrying the offensive load. We're still going to make the playoffs easily but I cannot fathom us winning 50+ games. I don't want people coming back at the end of the season saying we fell short of 50 wins due to injuries and other excuses. Our team is extremely weak at the 2 and 3 which is going to hurt us all season. In fact, I can't recall the last time in our history we were this bad in those positions; probably not since we traded Vince.

Struggled?

They were 17-5 without kawhi in the lineup. A 63 win pace.

A 13-9 record in those games would have been a 50win pace.

They were also 8-1 in games kawhi scored fewer than 20pts.

They were also 17-5 in games kawhi shot lower than 45%.

[2019nbachamps]

- further improvement of Siakam and FVV
- expanded role/further improvement of Powell and OG
- a full season of Gasol (assuming no injury, we won't be forced into playing a Monroe-type 15-20 MPG for ~20 games) with an expanding role, not playing conservatively adjusting to a new team with a superstar already on it

Those are a few reasons for high hopes. You have to remember that Kawhi played just 60 games last year and we had numerous other injury issues (JV for two months, Lowry missing 17 games, FVV missing 18 games, OG missing 15 games, etc.). That may happen again, but the injury bug was pretty bad for us last year.

Winning 50+ isn't a lock by any means, but ~50 wins is far more reasonable than the people thinking we'll miss the playoffs and/or barely be a .500 team.

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Forget about Danny Green...we lost one of the top 5 players in the NBA. We have no one capable of filling that void. Siakam might average 5 more PPG but that won't be enough. You talk about Gasol but in the regular season he was as productive as JV so consider his presence a wash. There's no escaping the fact we're weaker this year than last and while many of our fans are still riding the title high, they are forgetting how often we struggled last year when Kawhi wasn't carrying the offensive load. We're still going to make the playoffs easily but I cannot fathom us winning 50+ games. I don't want people coming back at the end of the season saying we fell short of 50 wins due to injuries and other excuses. Our team is extremely weak at the 2 and 3 which is going to hurt us all season. In fact, I can't recall the last time in our history we were this bad in those positions; probably not since we traded Vince.

Struggled?

They were 17-5 without kawhi in the lineup. A 63 win pace.

A 13-9 record in those games would have been a 50win pace.

They were also 8-1 in games kawhi scored fewer than 20pts.

They were also 17-5 in games kawhi shot lower than 45%.

13 of those 17 wins came against non playoff teams. We rested Kawhi strategically against crappy teams. When we rested him vs playoff teams we went 4-5.

Even when Kawhi had a bad game he was still good for 20 pts. Siakam is pretty much the only guy on our team now capable of scoring 20 on a bad night. You aren't getting 20 from any other player shooting in the low 40s.

I'm going into the season with low expectations. I'm enjoying our championship and will enjoy watching our young guys mature. But many fellow Raptors fans will be in for a rude awakening. I suspect 20 games into what will be a tough start to the season when we're hovering around 500, Raptors fans will start to realize how much they overrated the team going into this season.

[Mak]

We lost Kawhi and Danny Green and didn't replace that production with new additions. Of course it's impossible but we didn't replace it even a little bit. How you can say 50 wins is beyond me. People forget the insane drop in production that Kyle had some months last year. Last year we could manage that. This year we don't.

- further improvement of Siakam and FVV
- expanded role/further improvement of Powell and OG
- a full season of Gasol (assuming no injury, we won't be forced into playing a Monroe-type 15-20 MPG for ~20 games) with an expanding role, not playing conservatively adjusting to a new team with a superstar already on it

Those are a few reasons for high hopes. You have to remember that Kawhi played just 60 games last year and we had numerous other injury issues (JV for two months, Lowry missing 17 games, FVV missing 18 games, OG missing 15 games, etc.). That may happen again, but the injury bug was pretty bad for us last year.

Winning 50+ isn't a lock by any means, but ~50 wins is far more reasonable than the people thinking we'll miss the playoffs and/or barely be a .500 team.

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Forget about Danny Green...we lost one of the top 5 players in the NBA. We have no one capable of filling that void. Siakam might average 5 more PPG but that won't be enough. You talk about Gasol but in the regular season he was as productive as JV so consider his presence a wash. There's no escaping the fact we're weaker this year than last and while many of our fans are still riding the title high, they are forgetting how often we struggled last year when Kawhi wasn't carrying the offensive load. We're still going to make the playoffs easily but I cannot fathom us winning 50+ games. I don't want people coming back at the end of the season saying we fell short of 50 wins due to injuries and other excuses. Our team is extremely weak at the 2 and 3 which is going to hurt us all season. In fact, I can't recall the last time in our history we were this bad in those positions; probably not since we traded Vince.

Almost this same team won 59 games with Derozan who was a negative net player 2 years ago.

[Mak]

Forget about Danny Green...we lost one of the top 5 players in the NBA. We have no one capable of filling that void. Siakam might average 5 more PPG but that won't be enough. You talk about Gasol but in the regular season he was as productive as JV so consider his presence a wash. There's no escaping the fact we're weaker this year than last and while many of our fans are still riding the title high, they are forgetting how often we struggled last year when Kawhi wasn't carrying the offensive load. We're still going to make the playoffs easily but I cannot fathom us winning 50+ games. I don't want people coming back at the end of the season saying we fell short of 50 wins due to injuries and other excuses. Our team is extremely weak at the 2 and 3 which is going to hurt us all season. In fact, I can't recall the last time in our history we were this bad in those positions; probably not since we traded Vince.

Struggled?

They were 17-5 without kawhi in the lineup. A 63 win pace.

A 13-9 record in those games would have been a 50win pace.

They were also 8-1 in games kawhi scored fewer than 20pts.

They were also 17-5 in games kawhi shot lower than 45%.

13 of those 17 wins came against non playoff teams. We rested Kawhi strategically against crappy teams. When we rested him vs playoff teams we went 4-5.

Are you sure? If i remember correctly he never played on the second game of the back to back. There was no strategy there.

[SharoneWright]

Struggled?

They were 17-5 without kawhi in the lineup. A 63 win pace.

A 13-9 record in those games would have been a 50win pace.

They were also 8-1 in games kawhi scored fewer than 20pts.

They were also 17-5 in games kawhi shot lower than 45%.

13 of those 17 wins came against non playoff teams. We rested Kawhi strategically against crappy teams. When we rested him vs playoff teams we went 4-5.

Are you sure? If i remember correctly he never played on the second game of the back to back. There was no strategy there.

Just balls of steel. We did our thing. And then we smashed the playoffs.

[2019nbachamps]

- further improvement of Siakam and FVV
- expanded role/further improvement of Powell and OG
- a full season of Gasol (assuming no injury, we won't be forced into playing a Monroe-type 15-20 MPG for ~20 games) with an expanding role, not playing conservatively adjusting to a new team with a superstar already on it

Those are a few reasons for high hopes. You have to remember that Kawhi played just 60 games last year and we had numerous other injury issues (JV for two months, Lowry missing 17 games, FVV missing 18 games, OG missing 15 games, etc.). That may happen again, but the injury bug was pretty bad for us last year.

Winning 50+ isn't a lock by any means, but ~50 wins is far more reasonable than the people thinking we'll miss the playoffs and/or barely be a .500 team.

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Forget about Danny Green...we lost one of the top 5 players in the NBA. We have no one capable of filling that void. Siakam might average 5 more PPG but that won't be enough. You talk about Gasol but in the regular season he was as productive as JV so consider his presence a wash. There's no escaping the fact we're weaker this year than last and while many of our fans are still riding the title high, they are forgetting how often we struggled last year when Kawhi wasn't carrying the offensive load. We're still going to make the playoffs easily but I cannot fathom us winning 50+ games. I don't want people coming back at the end of the season saying we fell short of 50 wins due to injuries and other excuses. Our team is extremely weak at the 2 and 3 which is going to hurt us all season. In fact, I can't recall the last time in our history we were this bad in those positions; probably not since we traded Vince.

Almost this same team won 59 games with Derozan who was a negative net player 2 years ago.

DeRozan gave us 23 ppg, we had a deeper bench, the east was weaker, and we had 4 solid starters. We're going into this season with starting SGs and SFs that aren't good enough to start on 85% of NBA teams out there, plus guys like Lowry and Gasol who probably won't be 100% to start the season. It will be a miracle if this team wins 50 or more.

[2019nbachamps]

Struggled?

They were 17-5 without kawhi in the lineup. A 63 win pace.

A 13-9 record in those games would have been a 50win pace.

They were also 8-1 in games kawhi scored fewer than 20pts.

They were also 17-5 in games kawhi shot lower than 45%.

13 of those 17 wins came against non playoff teams. We rested Kawhi strategically against crappy teams. When we rested him vs playoff teams we went 4-5.

Are you sure? If i remember correctly he never played on the second game of the back to back. There was no strategy there.

Yes we rested him on back to backs but also against the crappiest teams in the league.

We destroyed non playoff teams and struggled against playoff teams without him. Obviously we're going to play 15 playoff bound teams this season so based on our track record last season, we shouldnt continue to point to our non Kawhi record to convince ourselves we'll be a 50+ win team without him.