Hayes - Siakam a lock to sign extension

[navyblue]

https://sports.yahoo.com/sources-raptors-pascal-siakam-seeking-rookiescale-max-but-picture-not-so-clear-for-others-in-draft-class-180147606.html

It’s almost a certainty that emerging star Pascal Siakam and the Toronto Raptors will come to terms on an extension before Monday’s deadline for rookie-scale extension candidates.

The Cameroon native is the only player remaining from the 2016 NBA draft class considered to be a virtual lock to get a deal completed before the deadline, which is quite an accomplishment for the No. 27 overall pick.

However, in order to finalize the agreement between the two sides, a maximum contract offer will be required, league sources told Yahoo Sports.

[mademan]

I dont really see the point of getting a max in right now. If it's less than max, sure, get the extension signed. But if he wants the full max, lets see him prove it for another year

[Tor_Raps]

I dont really see the point of getting a max in right now. If it's less than max, sure, get the extension signed. But if he wants the full max, lets see him prove it for another year

Really hope this is the case unless Masai doesn't want to cause any strain in his relationship with Siakam. More often than not, these type of signings happen then get delayed when both sides seem to want it to happen.

[LastNameEver]

I like Siakim..but max contracts ruin the value of complementary stars.

100 makes you really valuable. 150-170 makes you Harris and Middleton.

[Mak]

It makes sense that he will take less than a max over risking 100m with an injury. Giannis took less than max, its hard to give someone who has not made an all star team the max.

[Zeno]

I was wondering, is it possible to give him max next year but then drop his salary by 8% for 2021 and then max increases for the rest of the years.
So...
2020 -29 250 000 2021 -26 910 000 2022 -29 250 000 2023 -31 590 000 2024 -33 930 000
5 years 151 million about 19 million under the contract Simmons and Murray signed. Is this a legal extension as far as the CBA is concerned or do 5 year rookie extensions have to have max increases in each year?

[visionquest]

I dont really see the point of getting a max in right now. If it's less than max, sure, get the extension signed. But if he wants the full max, lets see him prove it for another year

Correct. Pascal has no leverage at all.

But considering the Raps paid him peanuts last year for borderline all star performance, I think Masai wants to rectify that by dealing with this expeditiously.

[WuTang_OG]

I dont really see the point of getting a max in right now. If it's less than max, sure, get the extension signed. But if he wants the full max, lets see him prove it for another year

Correct. Pascal has no leverage at all.

But considering the Raps paid him peanuts last year for borderline all star performance, I think Masai wants to rectify that by dealing with this expeditiously.

yea issue is he'll still be getting paid peanuts this year lol

[Yeezus_]

I dont really see the point of getting a max in right now. If it's less than max, sure, get the extension signed. But if he wants the full max, lets see him prove it for another year

Really hope this is the case unless Masai doesn't want to cause any strain in his relationship with Siakam. More often than not, these type of signings happen then get delayed when both sides seem to want it to happen.

Unless Masai believes there is a chance he makes an All NBa team, in which case his max extension % increases.

[Starr1]

I will be happy for the brother but for my beloved Raptors, It will be a terrible mistake getting that done right now. I wanna see him make that jump first before offering him the max. I will be willing to pay him right now close to what Buddy Hield in Sacremento is getting and nothing more.

[Tor_Raps]

I dont really see the point of getting a max in right now. If it's less than max, sure, get the extension signed. But if he wants the full max, lets see him prove it for another year

Really hope this is the case unless Masai doesn't want to cause any strain in his relationship with Siakam. More often than not, these type of signings happen then get delayed when both sides seem to want it to happen.

Unless Masai believes there is a chance he makes an All NBa team, in which case his max extension % increases.

Is this true?

[dagger]

I dont really see the point of getting a max in right now. If it's less than max, sure, get the extension signed. But if he wants the full max, lets see him prove it for another year

Correct. Pascal has no leverage at all.

But considering the Raps paid him peanuts last year for borderline all star performance, I think Masai wants to rectify that by dealing with this expeditiously.

People underestimate the value of a good relationship. He' wants to be here long-term. There is no benefit for either party in letting this go to next summer. He's not going to be cheaper to sign next summer, and the FA class next summer is so pathetically weak, there is no incentive to keep him on his cap hold - and there is always the chance that if you screw around with him, another team will tender some kind of short-term offer sheet which we would match, but would make him an unrestricted free agent sooner.

[dagger]

I was wondering, is it possible to give him max next year but then drop his salary by 8% for 2021 and then max increases for the rest of the years.
So...
2020 -29 250 000 2021 -26 910 000 2022 -29 250 000 2023 -31 590 000 2024 -33 930 000
5 years 151 million about 19 million under the contract Simmons and Murray signed. Is this a legal extension as far as the CBA is concerned or do 5 year rookie extensions have to have max increases in each year?

It is technically possible to do a second year dip of 8%, but then the third year raise is limited to 8% of the second year figure. A more plausible scenario is a first year max, same salary in Year 2, then max increases through the fifth year with the latter being player option.

[howlin mad axer]

Let's just hope Masai isn't in Rwanda when it's time to seal the deal.

[And1Skip]

He was a few votes away from making 3rd Team All-NBA last season. If he makes 3rd Team All-NBA this season he's eligible for 30% Max rather than the 25% Max he wants (unless he wants the added provision if he makes the team, he gets the 30% Max).

[WuTang_OG]

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[phillipmike]

Lets hope we dont give him the max now and the cap drops 10-15% as rumored if China pulls out.

[SFour]

I think Siakam will be taking a slight discount since he's close with Masai.

[PushDaRock]

He was a few votes away from making 3rd Team All-NBA last season. If he makes 3rd Team All-NBA this season he's eligible for 30% Max rather than the 25% Max he wants (unless he wants the added provision if he makes the team, he gets the 30% Max).

He's not taking less than the Max with the market already set by Simmons and Murray. Any negotiations is likely over the provisions.

[Zeno]

I was wondering, is it possible to give him max next year but then drop his salary by 8% for 2021 and then max increases for the rest of the years.
So...
2020 -29 250 000 2021 -26 910 000 2022 -29 250 000 2023 -31 590 000 2024 -33 930 000
5 years 151 million about 19 million under the contract Simmons and Murray signed. Is this a legal extension as far as the CBA is concerned or do 5 year rookie extensions have to have max increases in each year?

It is technically possible to do a second year dip of 8%, but then the third year raise is limited to 8% of the second year figure. A more plausible scenario is a first year max, same salary in Year 2, then max increases through the fifth year with the latter being player option.

Yeah that does make more sense. So that would come out as 5 year 160 or 9 million less than the max that Simmons, Murray got. I hope they could avoid the player option though that might be the cost of getting him to take that 9 million off. Question really is if 2 to 2.5 million in potential cap space in 2021 is worth losing a year of player control in 2024? If he wants the player option I would want a bit of a dip in the 2021 salary. The fact that future increase are off the 2021 does make it hard though.