Patrick McCaw is not a NBA caliber player
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I take at as this guy makes 4 mil per. (Overpaid but nice salary filler)
They're trying to evaluate what he can do.(showcasing for a trade)
They're trying to evaluate what he can do.(showcasing for a trade)
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WiggOuts wrote:guard stoppers are worth having on your team. Theyre trying to see if this is what he can be. He has the tools. Hes not playing so he can score big numbers and turn into a superstar, hes playing due to injury and to be assessed. "30 mins and he only scored 2 points!", who gives a ****, hes not here to score. He is a glue guy defensive specialist (or at least thats what it looks like they want him to be). Is Marc Gasol trash because he doesnt score? some of you definitely thought so. Learn the game and understand that not every player is the same just like not ever role is the same and not all results are the same
Lol at comparing a former DPOY to some random scrub who has provided nothing on either end his entire four year career
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Johnny Bball wrote:Randle McMurphy wrote:Johnny Bball wrote:When are people going to actually look at the situation and stop being such whinging children. Everyone is injured. There are no other options at SF which is where he is playing. We’ve been thin at SF after some guy named Kawhi left.
If Powell or Siakam was there, they would be starting. If Gasol was there would could even slide OG down and start Ibaka or Boucher. With all three hurt we are ****,
So you are all complaining about a guy that would never start at the position? It doesn’t surprise me at all that this forum once again has problem seeing what some players bring....but for the love of god how can’t you see it’s a necessity born out of injuries. Like what the actual ****.
And there are no changes in the rotation which win us yesterday’s game.... so spare me that junk please. Some puzzles just don’t have a solution.
I love how this post completely ignores that McCaw was playing 25-30 minutes a game for no reason at all even before Powell, Gasol, and Siakam went down.
https://www.espn.com/nba/game?gameId=401160702
https://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=401161023
https://www.espn.com/nba/game?gameId=401161037
https://www.espn.com/nba/game?gameId=401161050
Except Powell INS'T playing now. And you're still complaining about it, ignoring that the fact these three guys are hurt like it is status quo.
Maybe move on to some other thing to complain about until there's an option. Because right now there isn't and it seems like you haven't noticed there's a reason he started the last few and have been posting about rotations and McCaw the last few.
And we're going to completely ignore that we got one guard back while losing another as being even remotely relevant.
Play Davis more, play RHJ more, play Boucher more. All of those guys have shown themselves to be NBA level contributors. This shouldn’t be this hard.
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Johnny Bball wrote:Randle McMurphy wrote:Johnny Bball wrote:When are people going to actually look at the situation and stop being such whinging children. Everyone is injured. There are no other options at SF which is where he is playing. We’ve been thin at SF after some guy named Kawhi left.
If Powell or Siakam was there, they would be starting. If Gasol was there would could even slide OG down and start Ibaka or Boucher. With all three hurt we are ****,
So you are all complaining about a guy that would never start at the position? It doesn’t surprise me at all that this forum once again has problem seeing what some players bring....but for the love of god how can’t you see it’s a necessity born out of injuries. Like what the actual ****.
And there are no changes in the rotation which win us yesterday’s game.... so spare me that junk please. Some puzzles just don’t have a solution.
I love how this post completely ignores that McCaw was playing 25-30 minutes a game for no reason at all even before Powell, Gasol, and Siakam went down.
https://www.espn.com/nba/game?gameId=401160702
https://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=401161023
https://www.espn.com/nba/game?gameId=401161037
https://www.espn.com/nba/game?gameId=401161050
Except Powell INS'T playing now. And you're still complaining about it, ignoring that the fact these three guys are hurt like it is status quo.
Maybe move on to some other thing to complain about until there's an option. Doesn't seem like it's me that's ignoring the current reality, or hasn't noticed.
But I guess we are going to completely ignore that we got one guard back while losing another as being even remotely relevant.
Dude - no one really has an issue that Mccaw plays. Its the amount of time that he has played.
Bottom line - do you actually believe the Raptors have a better chance of winning when Mccaw gets more minutes than TD2 and RHJ (or even just substantial minutes)? If so, then there really is nothing more to discuss. Most of us (and the world for that matter - not just the people on this board) just disagree with you
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missionman wrote:Johnny Bball wrote:Randle McMurphy wrote:
I love how this post completely ignores that McCaw was playing 25-30 minutes a game for no reason at all even before Powell, Gasol, and Siakam went down.
https://www.espn.com/nba/game?gameId=401160702
https://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=401161023
https://www.espn.com/nba/game?gameId=401161037
https://www.espn.com/nba/game?gameId=401161050
Except Powell INS'T playing now. And you're still complaining about it, ignoring that the fact these three guys are hurt like it is status quo.
Maybe move on to some other thing to complain about until there's an option. Doesn't seem like it's me that's ignoring the current reality, or hasn't noticed.
But I guess we are going to completely ignore that we got one guard back while losing another as being even remotely relevant.
Dude - no one really has an issue that Mccaw plays. Its the amount of time that he has played.
Bottom line - do you actually believe the Raptors have a better chance of winning when Mccaw gets more minutes than TD2 and RHJ (or even just substantial minutes)? If so, then there really is nothing more to discuss. Most of us (and the world for that matter - not just the people on this board) just disagree with you
That's a two points in 32 minutes. Perfect pre deadline trade ballast.
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missionman wrote:Johnny Bball wrote:Randle McMurphy wrote:
I love how this post completely ignores that McCaw was playing 25-30 minutes a game for no reason at all even before Powell, Gasol, and Siakam went down.
https://www.espn.com/nba/game?gameId=401160702
https://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=401161023
https://www.espn.com/nba/game?gameId=401161037
https://www.espn.com/nba/game?gameId=401161050
Except Powell INS'T playing now. And you're still complaining about it, ignoring that the fact these three guys are hurt like it is status quo.
Maybe move on to some other thing to complain about until there's an option. Doesn't seem like it's me that's ignoring the current reality, or hasn't noticed.
But I guess we are going to completely ignore that we got one guard back while losing another as being even remotely relevant.
Dude - no one really has an issue that Mccaw plays. Its the amount of time that he has played.
Bottom line - do you actually believe the Raptors have a better chance of winning when Mccaw gets more minutes than TD2 and RHJ (or even just substantial minutes)? If so, then there really is nothing more to discuss. Most of us (and the world for that matter - not just the people on this board) just disagree with you
I'm going to try to get through to you guys one last time... McCaw is starting at SF. There are no options and I don't see two many teams where they can start TD2 at SF. You will noticed my posts are about starting and who else could possibly play there with injuries. If you guys want to keep going with complaining about McCaw like it was still 5 games ago like nothing has changed.... there really isn't anything else to discuss.
and we don't stand much of a chance right now with McCaw starting and having to play Miller, no matter how much you think minor changes to the rotations could turn around a 20 point game.
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RHJ should be starting over Pat Pat... Nurse is bias and stubborn mofo...
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Johnny Bball wrote:missionman wrote:Johnny Bball wrote:
Except Powell INS'T playing now. And you're still complaining about it, ignoring that the fact these three guys are hurt like it is status quo.
Maybe move on to some other thing to complain about until there's an option. Doesn't seem like it's me that's ignoring the current reality, or hasn't noticed.
But I guess we are going to completely ignore that we got one guard back while losing another as being even remotely relevant.
Dude - no one really has an issue that Mccaw plays. Its the amount of time that he has played.
Bottom line - do you actually believe the Raptors have a better chance of winning when Mccaw gets more minutes than TD2 and RHJ (or even just substantial minutes)? If so, then there really is nothing more to discuss. Most of us (and the world for that matter - not just the people on this board) just disagree with you
I'm going to try to get through to you guys one last time... McCaw is starting at SF. There are no options and I don't see two many teams where they can start TD2 at SF. You will noticed my posts are about starting and who else could possibly play there with injuries. If you guys want to keep going with complaining about McCaw like it was still 5 games ago like nothing has changed.... there really isn't anything else to discuss.
and we don't stand much of a chance right now with McCaw starting and having to play Miller, no matter how much you think minor changes to the rotations could turn around a 20 point game.
I have an idea. He can start and play less than 32 minutes !
Moreover, having no chance to win a game is an even better reason to play Td2 - in my eyes anyways.
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missionman wrote:Johnny Bball wrote:missionman wrote:
Dude - no one really has an issue that Mccaw plays. Its the amount of time that he has played.
Bottom line - do you actually believe the Raptors have a better chance of winning when Mccaw gets more minutes than TD2 and RHJ (or even just substantial minutes)? If so, then there really is nothing more to discuss. Most of us (and the world for that matter - not just the people on this board) just disagree with you
I'm going to try to get through to you guys one last time... McCaw is starting at SF. There are no options and I don't see two many teams where they can start TD2 at SF. You will noticed my posts are about starting and who else could possibly play there with injuries. If you guys want to keep going with complaining about McCaw like it was still 5 games ago like nothing has changed.... there really isn't anything else to discuss.
and we don't stand much of a chance right now with McCaw starting and having to play Miller, no matter how much you think minor changes to the rotations could turn around a 20 point game.
I have an idea. He can start and play less than 32 minutes !
Moreover, having no chance to win a game is an even better reason to play Td2 - in my eyes anyways.
Hey, I have an idea, lets not play a team that starts three big and scoring wings and has more on the bench, maybe a team like the Pacers and he can start and play 20 mpg. Or is that not obvious.
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I remember saying this about FVV his rookie year lol
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I disagree with the OP subject Patrick is a 13 or 14th guy NBA caliber it is just we have 3-4 guys hurt all the time so he come into minutes. I would agree nurse playing him way too much. He should be back up guard for now getting 10-14 mpg and let OG back to playing SF. Go with RHJ at PF and have CB backup both C and PF.
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Scott Hall wrote:I remember saying this about FVV his rookie year lol
If only McCaw was a 21 year old rookie and not a 24 year old, four year NBA scrub.
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tecumseh18 wrote:NUCKER101 wrote:McCaw is too thin to be a SF, he's a tall guard. That's exactly why he struggles to guard physical players and only seems effective on players who aren't clearly stronger than him.
This is the problem. Why is it a problem? Because Kyle and Fred don't belong together for extended minutes, let alone starting. If it's ever worked, it's only because they are individually really good players.
OG is a 3. McCaw is a 2. Any attempt to mess with that reality just to force Lowry and Fred to play together is doomed to result in losing games to good, normal-sized teams. If Masai needs to find a 4 (e.g. Jeff Green) to play while Siakam is out, or to back him up, he should damn well do it.
Agree.
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Randle McMurphy wrote:Scott Hall wrote:I remember saying this about FVV his rookie year lol
If only McCaw was a 21 year old rookie and not a 24 year old, four year NBA scrub.
You guys are wild'n over McCaw if this team is completely healthy or in a playoff series he wouldn't see the light
of day. His career has also been derailed by injuries so far. You could see they wanted to take a flier on him because
of his size and defensive upside. I really don't care if he pans out or not there's literally no expectations for him.
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Raptorstorm wrote:RHJ should be starting over Pat Pat... Nurse is bias and stubborn mofo...
Our bench is also very important. RHJ is likely kept there as he brings a certain energy.
RHJ finds himself playing crucial minutes in the 4th anyhow. So don't care if he starts.
I cant imagine going after a G leaguer at this point could fare any worse
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If he doesn’t play, then he has no trade value.
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team edward wrote:If he doesn’t play, then he has no trade value.
if he plays, he has less.
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Nurse wants to develop Mccaw into his own Raja Bell or Thabo Sefolosha type utility defensive wing that can guard multiple positions and make good decisions offensively. This would allow other guys on our team to give more effort offensively.
Problem with this is Raptors are playing more zone than any team I can remember in the last 5 years or so and all our players instinctively defend, and they do this just as well as Mccaw. So Mccaws "good defense" isnt really better than any other players and hes a huge liability offensively.
Another issue would be that quite honestly we already have a utility defender in Anunoby that can guard any position and does on a nightly basis. So now your trying to start Anunoby and Mccaw to both play that same role. Whats the point of this? Is it to give Anunoby less of a hard time on defense so he can score more? Mccaws minutes seem to be directly affecting Anunoby's development as the two do not play well together.
Problem with this is Raptors are playing more zone than any team I can remember in the last 5 years or so and all our players instinctively defend, and they do this just as well as Mccaw. So Mccaws "good defense" isnt really better than any other players and hes a huge liability offensively.
Another issue would be that quite honestly we already have a utility defender in Anunoby that can guard any position and does on a nightly basis. So now your trying to start Anunoby and Mccaw to both play that same role. Whats the point of this? Is it to give Anunoby less of a hard time on defense so he can score more? Mccaws minutes seem to be directly affecting Anunoby's development as the two do not play well together.
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