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Re: 2019-20 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#121 » by KillaSham23 » Fri Jun 26, 2020 10:08 pm

I saw allonzo trier was waived by the knicks. Id defs take him over McCaw
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Re: 2019-20 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#122 » by pr0gr4m » Tue Jun 30, 2020 3:45 pm

Raptorfan2012 wrote:
pr0gr4m wrote:What about free agency and the MLE we have. I see us having some space after we re-sign or let go of Gasol, Ibaka, and FVV.

Any opinions on a FVV sign and trade for Oladipo? It's a low risk move that could pay off. I don't see long term success with FVV due to his size limitation. Unfortunately for us his value is high and we will be expected to pay about 25M/year.

Furthermore I would look at a veteran title chaser. A few names I like are Paul Millsap, Danilo Gallinari, Derrick Favors, Myers Leonard, and Bruno Caboclo.

Gallinari would be my first target. I am enamoured with players who are 6'10+ and can shoot the way he can. An extreme opinion I hold is, if Gallinari was load managed for the playoffs I can see him having a poor Kevin Durant type of impact on a series. He has elite shooting, ball handling, size, and clutch play. I would very easily throw the entire MLE at him to be a sixth man on next years squad.

Millsap is going to be 35 but the MLE would be fair for an older guy. One last significant title run as a rotational player. In the new age NBA I would experiement with him at the 5 behind Marc.

Favors hasn't been given appropriate opportunity thus far in his career. I would like to see him in a new veteran led environment and try to pass Marc's role off to him, as we shift to the new era.

Leonard has an impressive combination of size and shooting that would be used well off the bench in compliment to Siakam's transition and penetrating game.

Bruno still has an impressive combination of size and shooting. The organization should have always tried to develop him as a 5. I think he could really thrive as a 5 in this league. He is slow due to his unique body type compared to other SFs, but faster than most 5s in the league. He is stronger than he looks and could bang with thicker 5s down low. He's always been a decent rim protector, shooter, and could fit into the transition offense our guys love. I forecast a few haters on this point, let's just put it this way. I rather him than Stanley Johnson.


I like the idea of bringing back Bruno as a back up C, especially if Chris Boucher gets paid elsewhere.

I think if we go for Gallinari, we may have to kiss our changes at getting Giannis goodbye (unless Masai can orchestrate a trade next summer to free up cap room). I am okay with picking up DG though and have him play forward with Pascal and see where that goes.

The key for Toronto is to improve through trade and the draft.

Unfortunately Canada isn't a great FA market.

I would take incremental steps to ensure players in the rotation from 1 to 9 are as high quality as possible. While a superstar is nice if management can bring in a few 2nd tier stars to work together with culture, coaching, and system in place it could be a recipe for success.

Name's I am interested in would be: Oladipo, Gallinari, Holiday, Millsap, Chris Paul, and Andre Roberson.

Giannis is not going to come to Toronto. There is even a chance Ujiri may leave.

It has appeared over the years while winning and championships are great for most players and of high priority there is more emphasis on other aspects of their lives. LeBron, Wade, and Bosh a decade ago left their markets for Miami. Although George stayed in OKC he abruptly left as well. There's also Kawhi.

Using history to depict the future we can see that would mean Giannis would go to a warmer weather city with endorsement potential or he would go to his hometown (not possible). There is no chance he would come to Toronto.

Want a nail in the coffin?

Steve Nash didn't even want to come here and picked a toxic LAL roster to join instead.
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Re: 2019-20 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#123 » by Rapsfan07 » Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:49 pm

pr0gr4m wrote:
Raptorfan2012 wrote:
pr0gr4m wrote:What about free agency and the MLE we have. I see us having some space after we re-sign or let go of Gasol, Ibaka, and FVV.

Any opinions on a FVV sign and trade for Oladipo? It's a low risk move that could pay off. I don't see long term success with FVV due to his size limitation. Unfortunately for us his value is high and we will be expected to pay about 25M/year.

Furthermore I would look at a veteran title chaser. A few names I like are Paul Millsap, Danilo Gallinari, Derrick Favors, Myers Leonard, and Bruno Caboclo.

Gallinari would be my first target. I am enamoured with players who are 6'10+ and can shoot the way he can. An extreme opinion I hold is, if Gallinari was load managed for the playoffs I can see him having a poor Kevin Durant type of impact on a series. He has elite shooting, ball handling, size, and clutch play. I would very easily throw the entire MLE at him to be a sixth man on next years squad.

Millsap is going to be 35 but the MLE would be fair for an older guy. One last significant title run as a rotational player. In the new age NBA I would experiement with him at the 5 behind Marc.

Favors hasn't been given appropriate opportunity thus far in his career. I would like to see him in a new veteran led environment and try to pass Marc's role off to him, as we shift to the new era.

Leonard has an impressive combination of size and shooting that would be used well off the bench in compliment to Siakam's transition and penetrating game.

Bruno still has an impressive combination of size and shooting. The organization should have always tried to develop him as a 5. I think he could really thrive as a 5 in this league. He is slow due to his unique body type compared to other SFs, but faster than most 5s in the league. He is stronger than he looks and could bang with thicker 5s down low. He's always been a decent rim protector, shooter, and could fit into the transition offense our guys love. I forecast a few haters on this point, let's just put it this way. I rather him than Stanley Johnson.


I like the idea of bringing back Bruno as a back up C, especially if Chris Boucher gets paid elsewhere.

I think if we go for Gallinari, we may have to kiss our changes at getting Giannis goodbye (unless Masai can orchestrate a trade next summer to free up cap room). I am okay with picking up DG though and have him play forward with Pascal and see where that goes.

The key for Toronto is to improve through trade and the draft.

Unfortunately Canada isn't a great FA market.

I would take incremental steps to ensure players in the rotation from 1 to 9 are as high quality as possible. While a superstar is nice if management can bring in a few 2nd tier stars to work together with culture, coaching, and system in place it could be a recipe for success.

Name's I am interested in would be: Oladipo, Gallinari, Holiday, Millsap, Chris Paul, and Andre Roberson.

Giannis is not going to come to Toronto. There is even a chance Ujiri may leave.

It has appeared over the years while winning and championships are great for most players and of high priority there is more emphasis on other aspects of their lives. LeBron, Wade, and Bosh a decade ago left their markets for Miami. Although George stayed in OKC he abruptly left as well. There's also Kawhi.

Using history to depict the future we can see that would mean Giannis would go to a warmer weather city with endorsement potential or he would go to his hometown (not possible). There is no chance he would come to Toronto.

Want a nail in the coffin?

Steve Nash didn't even want to come here and picked a toxic LAL roster to join instead.


Yeah I think secondary stars is probably the way to go. I like the idea of Giannis and unlike you, I'm not as down on our chances of getting him BUT I will almost always prefer keeping my options open rather than putting all my eggs in one basket.

To your point though - Wade never left his team. He brought guys in. That is a really important distinction for two reasons:

1. He was already a proven winner and a top 5 player in the league at the time, I would argue.
2. LBJ and Bosh were both superstars coming from teams that weren't able to get over the hump.

The Kawhi point is legit though. We've seen over and over than you really can't win in the NBA if you don't have a Top 5 guy.

All that to say that outside of Giannis, I don't see any other Top 5 guys that are even POSSIBLY attainable. If Masai thinks he won't come or he himself won't be here, I wouldn't mind if he grabbed the second tier guys. I really really like Oladipo personally but I'm sure they'll be a ton of interest from other teams as well and unfortunately, we don't have a superstar to attract other guys.
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Re: 2019-20 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#124 » by OGLife » Yesterday 7:23 pm

pr0gr4m wrote:
Raptorfan2012 wrote:
pr0gr4m wrote:What about free agency and the MLE we have. I see us having some space after we re-sign or let go of Gasol, Ibaka, and FVV.

Any opinions on a FVV sign and trade for Oladipo? It's a low risk move that could pay off. I don't see long term success with FVV due to his size limitation. Unfortunately for us his value is high and we will be expected to pay about 25M/year.

Furthermore I would look at a veteran title chaser. A few names I like are Paul Millsap, Danilo Gallinari, Derrick Favors, Myers Leonard, and Bruno Caboclo.

Gallinari would be my first target. I am enamoured with players who are 6'10+ and can shoot the way he can. An extreme opinion I hold is, if Gallinari was load managed for the playoffs I can see him having a poor Kevin Durant type of impact on a series. He has elite shooting, ball handling, size, and clutch play. I would very easily throw the entire MLE at him to be a sixth man on next years squad.

Millsap is going to be 35 but the MLE would be fair for an older guy. One last significant title run as a rotational player. In the new age NBA I would experiement with him at the 5 behind Marc.

Favors hasn't been given appropriate opportunity thus far in his career. I would like to see him in a new veteran led environment and try to pass Marc's role off to him, as we shift to the new era.

Leonard has an impressive combination of size and shooting that would be used well off the bench in compliment to Siakam's transition and penetrating game.

Bruno still has an impressive combination of size and shooting. The organization should have always tried to develop him as a 5. I think he could really thrive as a 5 in this league. He is slow due to his unique body type compared to other SFs, but faster than most 5s in the league. He is stronger than he looks and could bang with thicker 5s down low. He's always been a decent rim protector, shooter, and could fit into the transition offense our guys love. I forecast a few haters on this point, let's just put it this way. I rather him than Stanley Johnson.


I like the idea of bringing back Bruno as a back up C, especially if Chris Boucher gets paid elsewhere.

I think if we go for Gallinari, we may have to kiss our changes at getting Giannis goodbye (unless Masai can orchestrate a trade next summer to free up cap room). I am okay with picking up DG though and have him play forward with Pascal and see where that goes.

The key for Toronto is to improve through trade and the draft.

Unfortunately Canada isn't a great FA market.

I would take incremental steps to ensure players in the rotation from 1 to 9 are as high quality as possible. While a superstar is nice if management can bring in a few 2nd tier stars to work together with culture, coaching, and system in place it could be a recipe for success.

Name's I am interested in would be: Oladipo, Gallinari, Holiday, Millsap, Chris Paul, and Andre Roberson.

Giannis is not going to come to Toronto. There is even a chance Ujiri may leave.

It has appeared over the years while winning and championships are great for most players and of high priority there is more emphasis on other aspects of their lives. LeBron, Wade, and Bosh a decade ago left their markets for Miami. Although George stayed in OKC he abruptly left as well. There's also Kawhi.

Using history to depict the future we can see that would mean Giannis would go to a warmer weather city with endorsement potential or he would go to his hometown (not possible). There is no chance he would come to Toronto.

Want a nail in the coffin?

Steve Nash didn't even want to come here and picked a toxic LAL roster to join instead.

Nash wanted to win a ring and he was at the end of his career. He choose a roster which looked stacked on paper. Let's get the narrative straight.

Giannis has a lot of endorsement potential here. Way more than in the States. There is no way he is beating LeBron in LA or in the US with endorsement deals.

He is not going to GS because of it would be considered a KD move. Giannis doesn't want that comparison made.

The only other team I believe he would consider is Miami. Other than that, he will either be a Buck or A Raptor.
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Re: 2019-20 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#125 » by JerryWestGold » Yesterday 10:00 pm

2 reasons why Nash choose LA:
1- Wanted a shot at a title
2 - As he stated many times LA was closer to phoniex and he wanted to be closer to hes kids.

I think we should focus on trading for a Bradely Beal, then try to sell Giannis of a big three of Beal, Pascal and Giannis.
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Re: 2019-20 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#126 » by bballsparkin » Yesterday 11:36 pm

Also, Nash is not the best example of a Canadian not wanting to play in Toronto. He's a west guy accustomed to the gentler winters. A better example would be someone like Jamal Murray not wanting to play here.

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