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2019-20 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2

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Re: 2019-20 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#1721 » by tecumseh18 » Sun Nov 22, 2020 4:06 am

souljah006 wrote:With Myles Turner wanting out...

Can we put a package enticing enough for the Pacers?

Norman, TD, 2 Firsts and fillers

Myles is someone you can take a flier on with First round picks because he is still young. On a bigger contract than his production represents. Would be great to feature for our future and present. Fits our team like a glove.


That's 40 mill in salary you're bringing in, and sending out 20 mill. Unless the Pacers want 31-year-old Serge for some reason, it's not happening. He did have some good games against them last season, but they're not in win-now mode.

And for the Raptors, the clear strategy is to have max cap space in 2021 (Turner's contract runs to 2023). Masai's not going to mess with that strategy unless there's a clear superstar available (like Harden).
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Re: 2019-20 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#1722 » by RapsFanInOhio » Sun Nov 22, 2020 4:08 am

I think it’s pretty clear at this point they are not taking on any 2021 salary. So any signings likely will be one year or two years with a team option. This also rules out nearly any Brooklyn S&T unless a 3rd team is involved, because they don’t have enough expirings to match what we’re offering Serge for one year.

Pretty much what’s left is going to be one year deals on centers and SFs plus Boucher. People are spot on with Giles, Baynes, etc. We are getting into a bidding war for Gasol or even Serge because we’re not eating into the 2021 tax space. And to show how the margins are slim - we don’t even have the cap space right now. We’re banking on Norm opting out and / or moving his contract which may take a pick to do if teams know we’re in the running for a Giannis or Beal.
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Re: 2019-20 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#1723 » by RapsFanInOhio » Sun Nov 22, 2020 4:09 am

tecumseh18 wrote:
souljah006 wrote:With Myles Turner wanting out...

Can we put a package enticing enough for the Pacers?

Norman, TD, 2 Firsts and fillers

Myles is someone you can take a flier on with First round picks because he is still young. On a bigger contract than his production represents. Would be great to feature for our future and present. Fits our team like a glove.


That's 40 mill in salary you're bringing in, and sending out 20 mill. Unless the Pacers want 31-year-old Serge for some reason, it's not happening. He did have some good games against them last season, but they're not in win-now mode.

And for the Raptors, the clear strategy is to have max cap space in 2021 (Turner's contract runs to 2023). Masai's not going to mess with that strategy unless there's a clear superstar available (like Harden).

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Post#1724 » by RapsFanInOhio » Sun Nov 22, 2020 4:10 am

Oakvillehoops wrote:I want Ibaka back, but if he’s keen on the Nets, could we sign and trade with a pick for Lavert?

Only if you want to take yourself out of the 2021 sweepstakes, and you don’t do that for Lavert.
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Post#1725 » by RapsFanInOhio » Sun Nov 22, 2020 4:15 am

Brinbe wrote:assuming serge is back, what do we do with the mle? must assuredly be a big, right? i wonder who they'll target.

I think Serge coming back is a fairly decent sized assumption right now. He’s working towards a multi-year deal. If someone wasn’t offering that, he would have already signed. We can give him more than the MLE (meaning more than anyone else) because of his bird rights. That tells me we aren’t offering anything beyond this year and that someone out there is trying to make space for a larger-than-MLE, multi-year deal.

I think we need to start looking into teams that have serviceable bigs with the expiring contracts in the range of $20 million.
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Post#1726 » by BillyGM » Sun Nov 22, 2020 4:21 am

Casey got Delon Wright back
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Post#1727 » by RapsFanInOhio » Sun Nov 22, 2020 4:25 am

I have no idea if this is realistic, but here’s a fun one:

To Dallas:
Lou Will
Noah

To Toronto:
James Johnson
Luke Kennard

To LAC:
S&T Serge @ 3 years $60 million
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Post#1728 » by Blacklash2k4 » Sun Nov 22, 2020 4:27 am

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Post#1729 » by alpngso » Sun Nov 22, 2020 4:28 am

Torrey Craig, possible to sign this guy?
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Post#1730 » by Lukeem » Sun Nov 22, 2020 4:28 am

RapsFanInOhio wrote:
Oakvillehoops wrote:I want Ibaka back, but if he’s keen on the Nets, could we sign and trade with a pick for Lavert?

Only if you want to take yourself out of the 2021 sweepstakes, and you don’t do that for Lavert.


Yeah I was talking about this with someone today. I love lavert (Michigan fan) and I just don’t see anything working with nets that really works for us.

Lavert is good but with Lowry, fvv, Powell, og, thomas I don’t think he makes us better. Why would we facilitate direct competition unless it clearly makes us better
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Post#1731 » by RapsFanInOhio » Sun Nov 22, 2020 4:29 am

Another:

To Dallas:
Lavert

To Brooklyn:
Serge @ 3 years $60 million

To Toronto:
James Johnson
Jarrett Allen
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Post#1732 » by C-R-E-A-M- » Sun Nov 22, 2020 4:42 am

Trade for Myles Turner.
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Post#1733 » by StringerBell » Sun Nov 22, 2020 4:58 am

If the Pacers can't land Bogdanovic, wonder if they'd be interested in Norm. Norm + for Turner
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Post#1734 » by OfficialRef » Sun Nov 22, 2020 4:59 am

Honestly if Gasol doesn't sign, Masai might have f*cked up. The market on Bigs isn't great and feels like anyone we nab is a downgrade.
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Post#1735 » by Psubs » Sun Nov 22, 2020 5:38 am

StringerBell wrote:If the Pacers can't land Bogdanovic, wonder if they'd be interested in Norm. Norm + for Turner


https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/260496/Pacers-Interested-In-Sign-And-Trade-For-Bogdan-Bogdanovic

Ya, sooooo let's do a 3-way.

Pacers get: healthy Bogdan Bogdanovic

Toronto gets: iffy Victor Oladipo

Sacramento gets: Norman Powell, Terence Davis and Patrick McCaw
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Post#1736 » by Mark_83 » Sun Nov 22, 2020 5:41 am

Not much left out there.

Sign Baynes to 6M × 2 and either Biz (3M × 1) or Diallo (3M × 2).

Sign Kaleb Wesson to a 2-way.

Sign GRIII (3M × 1) or Dotson (3M × 1)

Baynes - Diallo - Wesson
Pascal - Boucher
OG - Dotson
FVV - Norm - Thomas
Lowry - Flynn - TDIII
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Re: 2019-20 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#1737 » by LoveMyRaps » Sun Nov 22, 2020 6:23 am

We need to use Norm to acquire a big. Not another guard.

Potential targets: Turner, Aldridge, Gobert
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Post#1738 » by HangTime » Sun Nov 22, 2020 6:45 am

What about Willy Hernangomez
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Post#1739 » by WeTheNorth123 » Sun Nov 22, 2020 6:47 am

Honestly at this point....im looking at this guy.....he's long, young and athletic + former 6th pick....low risk high potential (medium potential lol)

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Re: 2019-20 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#1740 » by Zeno » Sun Nov 22, 2020 6:47 am

LoveMyRaps wrote:We need to use Norm to acquire a big. Not another guard.

Potential targets: Turner, Aldridge, Gobert

Turner is multi-year contract so doesn't fit.
Gobert makes too much to salary match and requires assets we won't want to include.
Aldridge is possible if Spurs would take Norm, Stanley and McCaw for him. We'd be taking on 5 million extra but he's expiring. This is your winner.
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