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2019-20 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2

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Re: 2019-20 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#21 » by casual_raps_fan » Tue Mar 17, 2020 5:45 am

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you'd have to give up their choice of OG or TD. Its just not enough for the 2nd leading scorer in the league.


I'd avoid Beal altogether. Consider we're looking at FVV signing a 60/3 or 80/4, I'd be very hesitant tying up almost 50 mill in cap space on two undersized guards.

Players of his archetype don't tend to win games because they need to be a #1 guy to maximize their value (and make up for value lost on the defensive end), but aren't good enough to be a true #1 (Booker, D'Angelo, Lillard come to mind). Put him on a good team like the Raptors who like to spread out their usage, and he quickly becomes a neutral or slightly positive player.

I'd rather continue focusing on signing & developing solid two-way players, or target someone in the archetype of Khris Middleton.


Yeah I wonder if he would be an Eric Gordon type in our system.

Honestly not sure.

If so, better off with powell.

He is far more talented than Eric Gordon. Gordon is a pretty well rounded scorer but Beal has a completely refined scoring arsenal.

In terms of scoring skills, he is far ahead of anybody on the Raptors. Nurse would do wonders for his game and be able to squeeze out more playmaking from him. If there is a reasonable trade to get him without giving up Siakam or OG, you take it.
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Re: 2019-20 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#22 » by gerrit4 » Tue Mar 17, 2020 8:36 pm

This will be an interesting draft for sure. Considering there probably won't be a combine, team meetings with prospects, a tournament to scout, etc, there will probably be more busts (and great picks taken late) than in most other drafts.
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Post#23 » by _MidNight_ » Wed Mar 18, 2020 12:29 am

gerrit4 wrote:This will be an interesting draft for sure. Considering there probably won't be a combine, team meetings with prospects, a tournament to scout, etc, there will probably be more busts (and great picks taken late) than in most other drafts.


Masai could be in line for a major steal with everything happening right now.
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Post#24 » by Psubs » Wed Mar 18, 2020 1:48 am

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gerrit4 wrote:This will be an interesting draft for sure. Considering there probably won't be a combine, team meetings with prospects, a tournament to scout, etc, there will probably be more busts (and great picks taken late) than in most other drafts.


Masai could be in line for a major steal with everything happening right now.


Oturu and Carey are all over the place. If Baynes can develop a 3, then these 2 can.
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Post#25 » by casual_raps_fan » Wed Mar 18, 2020 7:59 am

Didn't see an offseason thread so I'll post my thought here.

I was thinking of how the covid situation as well as Morey China situation would affect the NBA and so far, I'm pretty convinced it could work to our advantage.

Here is the scenario
- The cap is going to drop quite a bit
- We have 3 big free agents coming up (Fred, Ibaka, Gasol)
- We are looking to retain capspace for the 2021 free agency A.K.A. The Giannis Free Agency

There's going to be a lot less spending money out there this offseason and NBA franchises will also probably like to play it conservatively until the market recovers... which makes me to believe that all three of them are more likely resign on a 1 year contract or a discounted multi year contract. 8-)
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Post#26 » by gerrit4 » Fri Mar 20, 2020 3:52 pm

casual_raps_fan wrote:Didn't see an offseason thread so I'll post my thought here.

I was thinking of how the covid situation as well as Morey China situation would affect the NBA and so far, I'm pretty convinced it could work to our advantage.

Here is the scenario
- The cap is going to drop quite a bit
- We have 3 big free agents coming up (Fred, Ibaka, Gasol)
- We are looking to retain capspace for the 2021 free agency A.K.A. The Giannis Free Agency

There's going to be a lot less spending money out there this offseason and NBA franchises will also probably like to play it conservatively until the market recovers... which makes me to believe that all three of them are more likely resign on a 1 year contract or a discounted multi year contract. 8-)


I don't mean to belittle what is going on in the world, but this is a good time to have one of the best front offices and development staffs in the world.
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Post#27 » by douggood » Fri Mar 20, 2020 8:28 pm

casual_raps_fan wrote:Didn't see an offseason thread so I'll post my thought here.

I was thinking of how the covid situation as well as Morey China situation would affect the NBA and so far, I'm pretty convinced it could work to our advantage.

Here is the scenario
- The cap is going to drop quite a bit
- We have 3 big free agents coming up (Fred, Ibaka, Gasol)
- We are looking to retain capspace for the 2021 free agency A.K.A. The Giannis Free Agency

There's going to be a lot less spending money out there this offseason and NBA franchises will also probably like to play it conservatively until the market recovers... which makes me to believe that all three of them are more likely resign on a 1 year contract or a discounted multi year contract. 8-)

next year cap is projected to apx the same (unless they shorten next season), next season cap is based on estimated BRI of next season. Was projected to be 116, then 115 after china, lets say 113-114 for next season.

the big question is how to make up for the shortfall this season. do you take money back from the players? or do you smooth it in and reduce the cap number going forward so the owners make up the shortfall.
lets say the loss is 600mil this year, players have to give back $300, the nba and nbapa, might just agree to artifically reduce the cap by $5mil for the next 2 years.
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Post#28 » by LoveMyRaps » Sat Mar 21, 2020 1:27 am

Would you guys package Norm for Beal?
Norm's trade value this upcoming off-season will be at an all-time high.
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Post#29 » by douggood » Sat Mar 21, 2020 1:42 am

LoveMyRaps wrote:Would you guys package Norm for Beal?
Norm's trade value this upcoming off-season will be at an all-time high.

that time has passed, cant even make salary numbers work without including lowry.

players under contract

lowry 29
pascal 29

powell 11
mccaw 4
sj 3.5
og2.5


beal 29
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Post#30 » by casual_raps_fan » Mon Mar 23, 2020 1:54 am

douggood wrote:
LoveMyRaps wrote:Would you guys package Norm for Beal?
Norm's trade value this upcoming off-season will be at an all-time high.

that time has passed, cant even make salary numbers work without including lowry.

players under contract

lowry 29
pascal 29

powell 11
mccaw 4
sj 3.5
og2.5


beal 29

Looking at those contracts and under the assumption that Fred is retained, the most likely trade scenario I can see is a trade Norm for a big or Norm for picks/prospects.

Norm will fit into a ton of starting lineups and will probably be paid like one in the 2021 free agency. Unless the Raptors want him to eventually be the starting 2, he's probably too expensive for us as a bench scorer.

I'm sure there are many teams that would love him. Just getting into his prime, all around scorer, solid defense, proven playoff performer, champion. His value is probably pretty high right now.
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Post#31 » by LoveMyRaps » Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:25 pm

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Post#32 » by Psubs » Tue Mar 24, 2020 3:57 am

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/257663/Pau-Gasol-Hopes-To-Return-To-NBA-But-Thinking-About-Retirement

Pau should ring chase with his brother Marc! Pau wouldn't want Marc to tie him at 2. :D
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Post#33 » by YelloC » Thu Apr 2, 2020 12:50 am

I wonder if Pau Gasol could be healthy if the season reconvenes?
We could use the extra size when guys get in foul trouble vs 76ers, Bucks, Lakers, Den etc.
Probably too early to be considering a restart to the season, whatever that will end up looking like.
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Post#34 » by Psubs » Thu Apr 2, 2020 1:11 am

YelloC wrote:I wonder if Pau Gasol could be healthy if the season reconvenes?
We could use the extra size when guys get in foul trouble vs 76ers, Bucks, Lakers, Den etc.
Probably too early to be considering a restart to the season, whatever that will end up looking like.


I've mentioned this! He would be a great 3rd big C.
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Post#35 » by Psubs » Mon Apr 6, 2020 9:57 pm

YelloC wrote:I wonder if Pau Gasol could be healthy if the season reconvenes?
We could use the extra size when guys get in foul trouble vs 76ers, Bucks, Lakers, Den etc.
Probably too early to be considering a restart to the season, whatever that will end up looking like.


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Post#36 » by megalison » Tue Apr 7, 2020 12:06 am

YelloC wrote:I wonder if Pau Gasol could be healthy if the season reconvenes?
We could use the extra size when guys get in foul trouble vs 76ers, Bucks, Lakers, Den etc.
Probably too early to be considering a restart to the season, whatever that will end up looking like.


I'd rather look into guys like Kostas Koufos, Joakim Noah or a Timofey Mozgov. If Ibaka/Gasol go down, the one part of their games we'll want to retain is their defense. I'd trust any of those 3 guys given their track records and age, over a washed up Pau Gasol who was never known as a plus defender.
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Post#37 » by NotMyKawhi » Sat Apr 11, 2020 7:41 pm

I'd look to do sign and trade ibaka, young player for gobert
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Post#38 » by Psubs » Sat Apr 11, 2020 11:19 pm

NotMyKawhi wrote:I'd look to do sign and trade ibaka, young player for gobert


Utah isn't hip enough for Ibaka to agree to be signed and traded to.
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Post#39 » by Ell Curry » Mon Apr 13, 2020 10:04 pm

Can we just get a sticky separate draft prospects discussion thread? Thanks
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Post#40 » by Psubs » Mon Apr 13, 2020 10:51 pm

Ell Curry wrote:Can we just get a sticky separate draft prospects discussion thread? Thanks


https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=1904610&start=480

We have the thread but not stickied.
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