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Early look at FA: Gallinari

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Early look at FA: Gallinari 

Post#1 » by pr0gr4m » Mon Jun 22, 2020 4:59 am

At 6'10 and an elite shooter subtract injury concerns and Gallinari would be a headliner in the league.

He's going to be 32 next season and he had a decent showing the past 2 seasons and seems to be healthier than usual. I don't see OKC bringing him back as they're rebuilding and I don't see another team throwing anything more than the MLE at him.

Add elite coaching and with load management he could be great in a playoff setting. He had a poor playoff showing with the Clippers last year but they didn't have a star like Pascal to get behind. He has the 'IT' factor. He can dribble, pass, and shoot extremely well.

With load management and reduced minutes 20-24 opposed to 30 a night I could see Gallinari being useful into his mid 30s. Agree or disagree?
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Re: Early look at FA: Gallinari 

Post#2 » by Psubs » Mon Jun 22, 2020 5:12 am

Would rather give the money to Marc and Serge whom can play C.

Really with the cap going down the most to spend is the MLE. Even then it better not mess with signing Giannis.

I can see OKC giving him $20-19-18-17.
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Post#3 » by Reeko » Mon Jun 22, 2020 5:14 am

At this point, he would be a bench player for us because I don't envision the organization stunting OG's growth by relegating him to the bench so that they can start Gallo. And I'm pretty sure he'll demand, and receive, more than the MLE.
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Re: Early look at FA: Gallinari 

Post#4 » by pr0gr4m » Mon Jun 22, 2020 5:20 am

Psubs wrote:Would rather give the money to Marc and Serge whom can play C.

Really with the cap going down the most to spend is the MLE. Even then it better not mess with signing Giannis.

I can see OKC giving him $20-19-18-17.

Serge had his best scoring, shooting, rebounding, and highest usage seasons in his career.

He is going to the team that offers the largest and longest contract.

Giannis is not likely to come to Toronto. Toronto unfortunately has had problems retaining superstars, taking Giannis from the Bucks is a pipedream.

OKC is also in the middle of a rebuild. This is why I feel Gallinari is a good target for a team like the Raptors who remain competitive. Gallinari will change teams this off-season.

Reeko wrote:At this point, he would be a bench player for us because I don't envision the organization stunting OG's growth by relegating him to the bench so that they can start Gallo. And I'm pretty sure he'll demand, and receive, more than the MLE.

The problems associated with Gallinari have been his injury concerns. Bringing him on board in Toronto would be as a bench role. I would limit his minutes until the playoffs and from the 2nd round onwards begin playing him heavily at the back up 5, 4, 3, and possibly 2.

As he is a older, bench player with a heavy injury history I feel load management could be easily pushed through the league office
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Post#5 » by Clay Davis » Mon Jun 22, 2020 5:27 am

Gallo is one of the most underrated players in the league. He was a big reason of why the Clippers didn't do significantly worse after trading Harris.
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Post#6 » by Merit » Mon Jun 22, 2020 5:51 am

Clay Davis wrote:Gallo is one of the most underrated players in the league. He was a big reason of why the Clippers didn't do significantly worse after trading Harris.


Can drive. Hits his free throws. Gets to the line a lot too. Could we hide him on defense? Offensively he's great.
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Post#7 » by C_Money » Mon Jun 22, 2020 6:07 am

We need a starting SF. I would definitely take him on a short term deal.
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Post#8 » by pr0gr4m » Mon Jun 22, 2020 6:15 am

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Clay Davis wrote:Gallo is one of the most underrated players in the league. He was a big reason of why the Clippers didn't do significantly worse after trading Harris.


Can drive. Hits his free throws. Gets to the line a lot too. Could we hide him on defense? Offensively he's great.

He has the 'IT' factor. That combined with our medical team, coaching, system, and culture. This is a perfect match.

DraftExpress listed his 'best case scenario' as a 'European LeBron James'. Now that's a huge stretch but it comes from his all-around game.

Gallo can pass, shoot, drive, post up, exploit mismatches, get to the line, and has a demeanor that indicates he can handle the last shot moment.

A rested, load managed, and healthy Gallinari in the playoffs off the bench is a huge advantage. Especially considering OG's going to faulter in the playoffs.

The reason why I don't see OG being a successful playoff performer is his game takes a hit every trade deadline. He can't play with any pressure. I saw this in the year we got swept by LeBron. He would hit his shots when the game was practically over.

I have a long list of players that just scream "RAPTOR" to me. That list includes Jrue Holiday, Paul Millsap, and Danilo Gallinari. We lack a superstar and thus NEED players of this inbetweener tier.
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Re: Early look at FA: Gallinari 

Post#9 » by lebron stopper » Mon Jun 22, 2020 7:06 am

pr0gr4m wrote:OKC is also in the middle of a rebuild. This is why I feel Gallinari is a good target for a team like the Raptors who remain competitive. Gallinari will change teams this off-season.


Nah, I get the sense that OKC wants to retain Gallinari and give him his payday, not just because he fits amazingly on the team as a dangerous stretch 4, but also because Chris Paul loves playing with him. OKC already has a tough time moving CP3 because of his contract and age, so keeping Gallo isn't just a practical move for them. (note: Even as a playoff team, OKC is in a very weird and directionless situation, so it's really tough to figure out what they do next... I could be completely wrong for all I know.)

Injuries aside, Gallo fits neatly in the Raptors offense, since he can shoot very well and do a little bit of everything else on offense, but I have two other major concerns for him. (1) His defense is putrid, especially off the ball where he frequently watches the ball instead of his assignment. This makes him a weak link against motion offenses that spam cuts and try to free up shooters. (2) He's proven to be a no-show in the playoffs, with his latest blunder being the Clippers-Warriors series last year. 47.4% TS on 27.9% USG is very appalling for someone who was arguably the best player on that Clippers team. That series went to 6 games, so imagine what could have happened if he played much better... He also wasn't that great in his two postseasons with the Nuggets either.

Clay Davis wrote:Gallo is one of the most underrated players in the league. He was a big reason of why the Clippers didn't do significantly worse after trading Harris.


Gallo is also a huge reason why OKC is in the playoffs this season. He's also the kind of player that would have been great on previous OKC teams. I've always wondered how the 2013 Nuggets-Warriors series would look if Gallo, a vital player on that Nuggets team, didn't tear his ACL a week before the playoffs (which is often forgotten).
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Re: Early look at FA: Gallinari 

Post#10 » by revvolutions » Mon Jun 22, 2020 7:14 am

Sounds very Colangelo to me
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Post#11 » by Ackshun » Mon Jun 22, 2020 7:15 am

revvolutions wrote:Sounds very Colangelo to me


How so ?
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Post#12 » by everdiso » Mon Jun 22, 2020 7:23 am

Clay Davis wrote:Gallo is one of the most underrated players in the league. He was a big reason of why the Clippers didn't do significantly worse after trading Harris.


Another reason would be that Harris isn't good.
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Re: Early look at FA: Gallinari 

Post#13 » by revvolutions » Mon Jun 22, 2020 7:47 am

Old past prime player to slot into starter role as a free agent home run signing, lots promise, none of it grounded in previous results. Plays no defense.
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Re: Early look at FA: Gallinari 

Post#14 » by 720 » Mon Jun 22, 2020 7:51 am

Ackshun wrote:
revvolutions wrote:Sounds very Colangelo to me


How so ?

He is past his prime and has injury concerns?
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Post#15 » by Chandan » Mon Jun 22, 2020 8:05 am

Reeko wrote:At this point, he would be a bench player for us because I don't envision the organization stunting OG's growth by relegating him to the bench so that they can start Gallo. And I'm pretty sure he'll demand, and receive, more than the MLE.


until OG can prove otherwise he isn't really the same calibre of player Gallo is. I dont see a scenario where if we sign gallo we wouldn't put OG back on the bench.
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Post#16 » by TheProfessor » Mon Jun 22, 2020 8:45 am

Kinda a ball stopper to be honest, doesn't fit our offense.
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Post#17 » by And1+2 » Mon Jun 22, 2020 9:53 am

I would take him for cheap, which is cheaper than he's going to go for. He is 32, injury prone, and would not gel defensively, which if you haven't noticed, is our teams identity.

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Re: Early look at FA: Gallinari 

Post#18 » by pr0gr4m » Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:10 am

TheProfessor wrote:Kinda a ball stopper to be honest, doesn't fit our offense.

He is under rated and seeing how he played with winning clubs like Denver, LAC, and OKC. It is not a coincidence LAC and OKC did well and Gallinari being a part of the rotation.

Supplementing load management his game could age well. The drives, post offense, and PnR are built around the foundation of his elite shooting.

I would also argue this is a great move to compete against the Bucks. Gallinari's added shooting and ability to match up with Giannis would mean we are removing the Bucks best interior defender to the perimeter. If they switch for another player on Gallinari it would create a post mismatch.

On defense they give up a high number of 3s and we would have just added a high volume 43% 3-point shooter that can also switch and match up against Giannis without being at a incredible disadvantage.

The length, switch, stretch, and ability for all 3 players to push the ball would be tough for the Bucks to handle. It would hurt them to have Lopez on the floor as he would be abused in the pick and pop/roll and also struggle in transition.

And1+2 wrote:I would take him for cheap, which is cheaper than he's going to go for. He is 32, injury prone, and would not gel defensively, which if you haven't noticed, is our teams identity.

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The past two seasons he has shown better health. His acquisition would be at the price of load managment during the season, and to utilized his high 3 point shooting volume in the playoffs against opposing defensive anchors.

In terms of a specialist shooter I would rather Gallinari on the floor than Matt Thomas.

revvolutions wrote:Old past prime player to slot into starter role as a free agent home run signing, lots promise, none of it grounded in previous results. Plays no defense.

Please read the opening post. He would be playing reduced minutes behind OG and used situationally and heavily in the playoffs. No one considers Gallinari a starting caliber forward now.

The SF position has been historically difficult to fill in and this would be a good stop gap option for our offense until Anunoby can push the ball and play in clutch situations.
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Re: Early look at FA: Gallinari 

Post#19 » by UcanUwill » Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:48 am

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Clay Davis wrote:Gallo is one of the most underrated players in the league. He was a big reason of why the Clippers didn't do significantly worse after trading Harris.


Can drive. Hits his free throws. Gets to the line a lot too. Could we hide him on defense? Offensively he's great.


He is also decent defender, I dont know what some of yyou guys talking about, he is white and Euro, so he cant play defense? His defense is not even bad, high IQ, can guard multiple positions, communicates at all times and is engaged on that end. but his main knock is his durability. Cant count on him being healthy half the time.
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Re: Early look at FA: Gallinari 

Post#20 » by bboyskinnylegs » Mon Jun 22, 2020 12:12 pm

I wanted us to bring him here a while back, not really interested now at this stage of his career. He'll probably also be looking for his final big payday, and I think we have different plans for our capspace.

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