OGLife wrote:Metallikid wrote:OGLife wrote:Its funny how you over characterize the mental aspect of this, yet believe that since the amount of cases of COVID are low, therefore no damage can come about from it.
Do you really believe if we allow things to expand that it wouldn't lead to a potential to more exposure?
There are support groups available for people to seek mental assistance during this time.
Let's not also forget how it can affect someone mentally if they got the virus and spread it to a love one, at no fault of their own, which causes the person to pass away.
I'm not going to argue a negative with another negative.
Let me ask you, how long do you think it is acceptable for 'social distancing' to be something mandated?
Support groups are not interaction with other humans in person, they are not a substitute for interaction with people you care about face-to-face - laughing, smiling, not living in fear. I believe that eventually if there is no vaccine then we will have to go with herd immunity and accept the consequences. The fact that cases are low are why there aren't emergency orders - which could come and go. The amount of cases is so low right now that if they paid enough people who need jobs to track and trace every infection properly we could eliminate it altogether. But we aren't, we're being restricted so that businesses can open. The fact is older people are going to bear the brunt of it regardless and as unfortunate as that is, that cannot prevent normal human socialization for the people who are young and younger - if they pass it to a relative and they die, guess what? That happened all the time 75+ years ago with normal flus and colds. People learned to deal with loss, not push it off as long as possible when the result of that is destroying future potential. And old people understood it was wrong to put an incredible burden on the young so that you could perhaps live a few more years. In Inuit culture and other Native cultures old people at a certain point would venture off into the wilderness to die so as not to be a burden.
You will have a damaged generation beyond imagining and most of all people won't stand for it eventually and rebel and do what they want to anyways. There will be protests against it and gatherings anyways. I urge you to understand that there is no such thing as a 'new normal' if that doesn't contain the ability to make friends and relationships and not live in constant fear of other people. There is no more fundamental human experience than looking into another humans face and holding their hand or being shoulder to shoulder. It cannot be replaced. It will destroy us to try.
So it is acceptable to let the old die, because as you believe, we cannot put people younger people in trouble? That's not acceptable.
Also, anyone who's involved mental treatments knows that when they see their counselor or doctor, their sessions are made to improve their interpretation of life. It's not to baby them into believing they cannot overcome their troubles and discourage them from trying.
Plus, I don't care for social studies where technology was not what it is now and what it will be in the future. Everyone knows that technology is there to improve social activities. It makes it much easier for people to interact with each other. Kids tend to use technology over outdoor gatherings moreso than not. This was way before the virus.
We must care about everyone and everyone must play a role in minimizing the spread of the virus until there is a vaccine.
There won't be a vaccine. I can almost guarantee that. Either it won't be safe, or it won't be long-lasting, or there won't be enough, or there won't be enough ingredients (especially if it isn't long lasting), or there will be logistical problems in its delivery, or it will be reserved for certain populations and possibly the rich.
Psychotherapy is there to help people deal with trauma, not to help people rationalize and accept a state of life that is untenable for human beings psycho-social development and well-being - let me repeat, social distancing and masks forever is untenable for human beings not some 'troubles'. If there is no good treatment or vaccine, and I don't think there will be, then yeah you cannot abrogate everyone's rights in society permanently to protect the medically frail population. You don't get to give up other people's Charter rights for them.
We must care for as many as we can as well as we can, and eventually that will mean living normal human lives with normal human social dynamics and not in fear of this virus. If you can't see that one will eventually outweigh the other then I think you are blinded by fear.