Re: Africans in North America
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 6:15 pm
NBA players that come from Europe may tend to be less physical as a biproduct of the European style of game. Oh wow what a terrible thing I just acknowledged - ban me!
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Troubadour wrote:mjd58 wrote:Ivre wrote:Wow. This is some highly speculative and wordy ideology. To write that much without any listed evidence is dedicated. I’m surprised the author didn’t reference the shape of the African head or some other Phrenological Crap.
As Akbar said, “it’s a trap”
What is difficult about what I suggested?
The body is an integrated system of interacting components. These components in turn are synchronized with the external environment - with the atmosphere, for instance. Do you deny climate change? What I'm writing is no more different than claiming taht the changing co2 composition in the atmosphere will induce a mass die off of life forms that are synchronized to operate in certain temperature ranges.
The issue, clearly, is literacy.
I really do hope the moderators here have a tolerance for intellectual conversations that are relevant to the issue being suggested by this thread. I LOVE Pascal Siakam the person, and want him very much to succeed; I am also fairly educated in the biological, ecological and psychological sciences, so I'm generally concerned that energy/fatigue issues could exist because of discrepancies between the African and North American micriobiota.
Similar problems could be plausibly claimed for South America and North America.
What is intellectual about your baseless speculation on two athletes? You’re ignorant and pass off your dehumanizing views of African people as scientific inquiry. It’s pathetic and you should be embarrassed
Buddythefriend wrote:This thread is perfectly fine. Stop seeking out reasons to be offended. If anything it's continentist, but not racist.
Buddythefriend wrote:This thread is perfectly fine. Stop seeking out reasons to be offended. If anything it's continentist, but not racist.
Troubadour wrote:mjd58 wrote:Ivre wrote:Wow. This is some highly speculative and wordy ideology. To write that much without any listed evidence is dedicated. I’m surprised the author didn’t reference the shape of the African head or some other Phrenological Crap.
As Akbar said, “it’s a trap”
What is difficult about what I suggested?
The body is an integrated system of interacting components. These components in turn are synchronized with the external environment - with the atmosphere, for instance. Do you deny climate change? What I'm writing is no more different than claiming taht the changing co2 composition in the atmosphere will induce a mass die off of life forms that are synchronized to operate in certain temperature ranges.
The issue, clearly, is literacy.
I really do hope the moderators here have a tolerance for intellectual conversations that are relevant to the issue being suggested by this thread. I LOVE Pascal Siakam the person, and want him very much to succeed; I am also fairly educated in the biological, ecological and psychological sciences, so I'm generally concerned that energy/fatigue issues could exist because of discrepancies between the African and North American micriobiota.
Similar problems could be plausibly claimed for South America and North America.
What is intellectual about your baseless speculation on two athletes? You’re ignorant and pass off your dehumanizing views of African people as scientific inquiry. It’s pathetic and you should be embarrassed
Jcity08 wrote:Buddythefriend wrote:This thread is perfectly fine. Stop seeking out reasons to be offended. If anything it's continentist, but not racist.
I dont need you to instruct me on what thinly veiled racism is. Stop trying to tell us what to or not to be offended by.
Buddythefriend wrote:Jcity08 wrote:Buddythefriend wrote:This thread is perfectly fine. Stop seeking out reasons to be offended. If anything it's continentist, but not racist.
I dont need you to instruct me on what thinly veiled racism is. Stop trying to tell us what to or not to be offended by.
Why does your signature show Terence Davis with a Disney backdrop? Are you trying to imply he's a cartoon character? Might be thinly veiled but is deeply hurtful and offensive. I'm shocked.
mjd58 wrote:Troubadour wrote:mjd58 wrote:
What is difficult about what I suggested?
The body is an integrated system of interacting components. These components in turn are synchronized with the external environment - with the atmosphere, for instance. Do you deny climate change? What I'm writing is no more different than claiming taht the changing co2 composition in the atmosphere will induce a mass die off of life forms that are synchronized to operate in certain temperature ranges.
The issue, clearly, is literacy.
I really do hope the moderators here have a tolerance for intellectual conversations that are relevant to the issue being suggested by this thread. I LOVE Pascal Siakam the person, and want him very much to succeed; I am also fairly educated in the biological, ecological and psychological sciences, so I'm generally concerned that energy/fatigue issues could exist because of discrepancies between the African and North American micriobiota.
Similar problems could be plausibly claimed for South America and North America.
What is intellectual about your baseless speculation on two athletes? You’re ignorant and pass off your dehumanizing views of African people as scientific inquiry. It’s pathetic and you should be embarrassed
Would I go up to someone claiming to have knowledge of engineering and critique his analysis of an engineering issue? If I'm ignorant of engineering, I'm in no position to comment. Why can't you show an equivalent self-awareness and not attack someone merely expressing a knowledge-base about something you yourself are evidently entirely ignorant of?
Yet you call me ignorant.
I can see that so far your are seeing me as someone being motivated by racism, and using sophisticated language merely to push a racist-agenda. Is it perhaps possible that your emotional state is causing you to respond this way, and that its possible that I am not as your preconceiving me to be - motivated by hatred - but rather, by a genuine interest in an issue that is implied by the physical sciences?
Granted, I am assuming a knowledge base in my readers that is anything but common. Complexity sciences - knowing how the physical environment evolves into the living environment, and then into mind, is a complex field which requires knowledge of cosmology, physics, biophysics, geophysics, ethology, ecology, evolutionary biology, etc etc to understand.
I have sorely, once again, underestimated my readers competencies. But this I think expresses something very significant about our culture: I can't even share knowledge, or even distill it in a way that makes it relevant to a subject matter we all find interesting, without being accused in a way that seems hysterical of being a racist. In other words, instead of contemplating the general idea: that little tiny creatures called viruses and bacteria, themselves made up of molecules that have geometry and structure, which interact with our own cells, made up of a very similar configuration of molecules with geometry and structure, instead of seeing how these two worlds interact, and how what we call "energy" and "focus" are related to these configurations - anything but a speculative claim (it is the basis of biophysics and physics) - I'm being lambasted by you, a person with a username that certainly conveys a highly emotional nature, of being racist.
It's ridiculous - if anything, because you're not even trying to understand what I'm writing.
What is dehumanizing about what I wrote? If you put a North American person in Africa, we would be the ones with adaptation issues.
icoholic wrote:mjd58 wrote:icoholic wrote:I go to Africa a lot, and the first few years, I ran into a bunch of gastro issues... I don't have any issues anymore. Your body gets used to it... Siakam has been in North America long enough to be over any issues.
This isn't War of the Worlds.
Thank you for the response.
Do you think, perhaps, there might be a subtler range for elite athletes? For instance, your not working your body the way Siakam and Embiid are, so maybe the harder you work one system (muscular system), the redundancy of another system (the immune system) becomes less and less?
One possibility in the case of Hakeem for why he might have done better relative to Siakam and Embiid is that he is a Muslim, and his Halal diet might have provided him the extra advantage.
No. Africans have have been playing professional soccer all over the world for decades.
Troubadour wrote:Mods, you’re asleep at the wheel. This forum has long been a cesspool for racist garbage and now there are threads openly speculating about how Africans may be worse at basketball as a result of where they are from.
This fan base has disappointed me to no end since Friday.