KrazyP wrote:Danny1616 wrote:KrazyP wrote:
This is nonsense. 2000-01 Vince was a borderline MVP.
7.2 VORP #1 OVERALL
25.0 PER #2 OVERALL (only behind Shaq)
7.6 BPM #2 OVERALL (only behind Shaq)
What player in the last 20 yrs put up those league leading advanced stats and wasn't considered a top 10 if not top 5 player overall?
Injuries after that year brought him down from MVP level to all-star level.
Okay so VC had one superstar season. But one superstar season does not make someone a legitimate superstar. You need to do that over multiple seasons.
Compare that to Lowry who has had six all-star/borderline superstar seasons.
2020 - Lowry finished 6th in RPM (Giannis 1st, Lebron 2nd).
2019 - Lowry finished 5th in RPM (Curry 1st, Lebron 2nd).
2018 - Lowry finished 1st in RPM (Curry was 2nd).
2017 - Lowry finished 4th in RPM (Curry 1st, Lebron 2nd).
2016 - Lowry finished 5th in RPM (Curry 1st, Lebron 2nd).
2015 - Lowry finished 14th in RPM.
In terms of being an impact player there is no question Lowry has been a top 10 player over a long time span.
So yes it's a myth that we were not able to resign top tier level players.
What season did Lowry have where he was leading the league (or close to it) in PER, BPM and VORP? That comparison is just absurd.
Vince in his prime was a superstar. His injuries knocked him down to all-star.
First, 1 superstar or MVP caliber season does not outweigh 6 seasons of borderline superstar level play.
Second, Lowry has had top 10 level seasons in advanced stats multiple times.
2016 - Lowry was #8 in VORP, #8 in BPM, and #5 in RPM.
Why are you dismissing that Lowry has been a top 5-10 in RPM over multiple seasons.
So yes, I am taking 6 excellent seasons by Lowry over 1 MVP caliber season with Vince.
Don't know why you are trying to argue this. It's absurd on your part.