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Siakam All-NBA Second Team 2019-2020

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Post#41 » by Danny1616 » Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:38 pm

Pretty nuts how Westbrook and Simmons make the 3rd time but Lowry doesn't.
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Post#42 » by Klaw22 » Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:38 pm

Oh, really surprised... Imo Lowry deserves the spot in the 3 All NBA. That was his season and his Raptors team. I would swap that 2nd for Siakam for a Lowry 3rd. Lowry with 26 votes. Westbrick with 56
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Post#43 » by Grew » Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:39 pm

Pascal actually had a pretty good season, not a bad attempt at being the number one option for a guy who had never done it before and isn't a natural scorer.

People dumping on Pascal because of a poor showing in the bubble need to realize the bubble situation was unprecedented and many players didn't respond well to it. Have some compassion, believe he can bounce back, If you can't do that, gtfo of this fanbase.

Hopefully Pascal uses this as even more motivation knowing he did not play to all NBA standards in the bubble.

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Post#44 » by Jef » Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:42 pm

I guess this is good news in the sense that Pascal won't make any Top 20 player lists next season, even after this pseudo-Top10 award, so that may motivate him come that time. But hopefully he's in the gym now.
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Post#45 » by Pooh_Jeter » Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:43 pm

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YogurtProducer wrote:Y’all realize Siakam averages 23/7/4 in Feb-March right?

Bad bubble and bad January (and January was still 21/6/3).

Let’s not forget what he did for 60 games before Orlando


He had 2 months where he was above league average efficiency (1 of those was only 1% above) and one month right at league average. He put up his numbers on volume.


So he “only” averaged 23 points at league average efficiency... you don’t realize that’s not a bad thing.. right?

Sure he isn’t one of the top 5 or even 10 elite scorers, but you can do much much worse as your #1 guy.

He just had probably the 4th or 5th best season in Raptors history behind Kawhi in 2019, Lowry in 2015 or 2016, and then he’s right up there just below with any Bosh or Carter season.

Let’s just chill and get off the guys back.


His season as a whole ended up being below average efficiency, so no it wasn't impressive at all.

All of Bosh's seasons after his sophomore year were better than Siakam's. Vince had at least two better seasons. Even Demar had a couple seasons better than him. Lowry has had 4 or 5 seasons better than Siakam's including this year.
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Post#46 » by Johnny Bball » Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:45 pm

Congrats to Siakam and his all-nba season. Nice that we get one guy in there still.
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Post#47 » by Zeno » Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:46 pm

Pascal making 2nd team means Norm 100% needs to be traded to make room for a max slot if Giannis wants to come. It also squeezes what the team can do and stay under the tax next year. So while it’s nice for Siakam, it sucks for the franchise.
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Post#48 » by Yeezus_ » Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:47 pm

Okay guys we get it, he didn’t perform well in the regular season. This award isn’t about that.

Good for him! Now he needs to work on some of his limitations that hindered him in the playoffs.
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Post#49 » by everdiso » Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:48 pm

Bank Shot wrote:How many times are the All-NBA voters going to reward the wrong Raptor. We're up to three times in the last four years. Good for Pascal though.


NBA All-RPM Teams (Min 30mpg)

C Jokic ----- Gobert ---- Vucevic ----- (Abedayo)
F Giannis -- Kawhi ----- Porzingis ---- (Davis)
F Lebron --- Tatum ---- Siakam ------ (Butler)
G Harden -- Doncic ---- Westbrook -- (Booker)
G Paul ------ Lowry ----- Lillard ------ (Holiday)

Some guys who just missed the 30mpg cuttoff - Embiid 29.5, Robinson 29.7, Middleton 29.9, Ingles 29.7 - none would be higher than 3rd team tho.

RPM WINS:

CJokic ----- Gobert ----- Abedayo ---- (Davis)
F Giannis -- Kawhi ------ Siakam ----- (Harris)
F Lebron --- Tatum ----- Robinson --- (Middleton)
G Harden -- Doncic ----- Westbrook -- (Booker)
G Paul ------ Lowry ------ Lillard ------- (Holiday)
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Post#50 » by Johnny Bball » Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:48 pm

UnRealGM wrote:dat extra 3% tho..


We might have to trade away Stanley Johnson now.
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Post#51 » by BD006 » Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:54 pm

YogurtProducer wrote:Westbrook over Lowry is incredibly **** ridiculous.

The fact this doesn’t take playoffs into account is incredibky weird to me though.


But it never has
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Post#52 » by bon » Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:55 pm

100% deserved. Amazing considering where he started.

And foh with the hate
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Post#53 » by BD006 » Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:56 pm

Hope he uses this as motivation to prove to people he deserves this (and his contract)
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Post#54 » by Syd-TK3 » Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:56 pm

Zeno wrote:Pascal making 2nd team means Norm 100% needs to be traded to make room for a max slot if Giannis wants to come. It also squeezes what the team can do and stay under the tax next year. So while it’s nice for Siakam, it sucks for the franchise.

Seriously
Not everyone is just bitter because of his bubble performance and hating on him for no reason. When you look at the long run of things this makes our free agents situations a lot harder now
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Post#55 » by DelAbbot » Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:56 pm

I remember when he signed the max and everyone on this board was saying "if Siakam made All-NBA (to trigger the max 3% increase) that would mean his contract is a bargain". How life throws you curveballs...
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Post#56 » by True North » Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:00 pm

Congrats

Also so long FVV. It was great while it lasted. We’ll miss you.
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Post#57 » by bon » Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:00 pm

Syd-TK3 wrote:
Zeno wrote:Pascal making 2nd team means Norm 100% needs to be traded to make room for a max slot if Giannis wants to come. It also squeezes what the team can do and stay under the tax next year. So while it’s nice for Siakam, it sucks for the franchise.

Seriously
Not everyone is just bitter because of his bubble performance and hating on him for no reason. When you look at the long run of things this makes our free agents situations a lot harder now

If a superstar makes it clear that he wants to come here then the front office will make the necessary moves to get it done. Until then, whining about hypothetical scenarios isn't benefiting anyone.
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Post#58 » by bluerap23 » Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:01 pm

Embarrassing fan base on this board.
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Post#59 » by Raps in 4 » Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:02 pm

Not well deserved.
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Post#60 » by Syd-TK3 » Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:03 pm

bon wrote:
Syd-TK3 wrote:
Zeno wrote:Pascal making 2nd team means Norm 100% needs to be traded to make room for a max slot if Giannis wants to come. It also squeezes what the team can do and stay under the tax next year. So while it’s nice for Siakam, it sucks for the franchise.

Seriously
Not everyone is just bitter because of his bubble performance and hating on him for no reason. When you look at the long run of things this makes our free agents situations a lot harder now

If a superstar makes it clear that he wants to come here then the front office will make the necessary moves to get it done. Until then, whining about hypothetical scenarios isn't benefiting anyone.

I mean our season is over this it technically the main type of content we have to discuss
There's been multiple fred free agency threads in the past week this could certainly effect it
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