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Re: Siakam All-NBA Second Team 2019-2020 

Post#81 » by Zeno » Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:02 pm

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I've been saying it for months, although it looks like nobody else worreid about it until now. There is no cap room on this team for Norm after 2021 regardless of 3%. They will be trading Powell if they trade anyone. So imo, that is not a big reason and 2-3 million doesn't change that. The only thing that changes that is FVV getting too big an offer elsewhere.

Literally, we ditch McCaw or Johnson and were are even.


It’s more about 2021 and those guys are off the team at that point. So it’s more likely now that we throw in our 1sts with Norm for an upgrade to drop the future salary of of the picks.


Those guys are signed for just as long as Powell. It's not anymore likely... he was always the prime guy we would trade because he has one year left before a big payday.

No, I get that and always knew that but once you ditch the McCaws and Stanleys you are still losing out on 3-3.5 million in wiggle room to play around the edges so this doesn't have zero roster implications. No one is just taking their salaries. Maybe we only carry 13 plus the 2 two-ways now for next season for example. Maybe the next Terrence Davis or Fred is missed out on.
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Re: Siakam All-NBA Second Team 2019-2020 

Post#82 » by Johnny Bball » Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:09 pm

Zeno wrote:
Johnny Bball wrote:
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It’s more about 2021 and those guys are off the team at that point. So it’s more likely now that we throw in our 1sts with Norm for an upgrade to drop the future salary of of the picks.


Those guys are signed for just as long as Powell. It's not anymore likely... he was always the prime guy we would trade because he has one year left before a big payday.

No, I get that and always knew that but once you ditch the McCaws and Stanleys you are still losing out on 3-3.5 million in wiggle room to play around the edges so this doesn't have zero roster implications. No one is just taking their salaries. Maybe we only carry 13 plus the 2 two-ways now for next season for example. Maybe the next Terrence Davis or Fred is missed out on.


Alright... but did you really think he wasn't going to be all NBA? This really isn't overly surprising to just come up now. I dunno, it's something I thought we already knew is all.

Maybe the playoffs just made people forget.
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Re: Siakam All-NBA Second Team 2019-2020 

Post#83 » by TOStateofMind » Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:17 pm

He was always going to make the team since this was voted pre bubble. Kyle deserved a spot too but he got shafted once again cause he doesnt put up crazy scoring numbers.
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Re: Siakam All-NBA Second Team 2019-2020 

Post#84 » by Zeno » Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:18 pm

Johnny Bball wrote:
Zeno wrote:
Johnny Bball wrote:
Those guys are signed for just as long as Powell. It's not anymore likely... he was always the prime guy we would trade because he has one year left before a big payday.

No, I get that and always knew that but once you ditch the McCaws and Stanleys you are still losing out on 3-3.5 million in wiggle room to play around the edges so this doesn't have zero roster implications. No one is just taking their salaries. Maybe we only carry 13 plus the 2 two-ways now for next season for example. Maybe the next Terrence Davis or Fred is missed out on.


Alright... but did you really think he wasn't going to be all NBA? This really isn't overly surprising to just come up now. I dunno, it's something I thought we already knew is all.

Maybe the playoffs just made people forget.

2nd team is a surprise to me, Tatum I thought would get it. Siakam had no bonus in his extension for 3rd team.
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Post#85 » by Coach Smiley » Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:23 pm

If it wasn't for how it ended his season was just remarkable, too bad that will get lost in the convo. Ah well, congrats Pascal!
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Post#86 » by TheBoi10 » Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:28 pm

Lol
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Post#87 » by lexxus » Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:50 pm

Lmao
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Post#88 » by SharoneWright » Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:01 pm

I hope Pascal respectfully declines the 3% bonus out of humility due to his crappy play post Christmas and in the bubble.

What would the PA say, do you think? LOL
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Post#89 » by B-Ball Freak » Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:13 pm

He has to use this as fuel to get better along with the harsh words from damn near everyone after that pathetic showing in the bubble, please don't be a one year wonder Pascal.
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Re: Siakam All-NBA Second Team 2019-2020 

Post#90 » by Zeno » Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:18 pm

SharoneWright wrote:I hope Pascal respectfully declines the 3% bonus out of humility due to his crappy play post Christmas and in the bubble.

What would the PA say, do you think? LOL


Do you also believe in Santa?
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Post#91 » by Danny1616 » Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:22 pm

Based on his regular season play he deserved this.
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Post#92 » by ruckus » Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:24 pm

Congrats to Pascal. Well deserved based on his regular season performance.

Heres hoping he comes back even better.
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Post#93 » by gp2015 » Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:56 pm

ropjhk wrote:Does this increase his trade value?


No. The current situation is you have to pay even more for a fraud, until Pascal can prove himself again next season.
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Re: Siakam All-NBA Second Team 2019-2020 

Post#94 » by Troubadour » Thu Sep 17, 2020 12:02 am

gp2015 wrote:
ropjhk wrote:Does this increase his trade value?


No. The current situation is you have to pay even more for a fraud, until Pascal can prove himself again next season.


The same fraud that averaged 20/8/4 on 50% shooting in the Finals and scored the game-winning basket on the road in Oracle defended by Draymond Green. That fraud? The very same?
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Re: Siakam All-NBA Second Team 2019-2020 

Post#95 » by SharoneWright » Thu Sep 17, 2020 12:15 am

Zeno wrote:
SharoneWright wrote:I hope Pascal respectfully declines the 3% bonus out of humility due to his crappy play post Christmas and in the bubble.

What would the PA say, do you think? LOL


Do you also believe in Santa?


I'm being facetious, Z.

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Re: Siakam All-NBA Second Team 2019-2020 

Post#96 » by VanWest82 » Thu Sep 17, 2020 12:35 am

Happy for Pascal but man is that contract looking rough now. Hopefully he can play his way into it.
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Re: Siakam All-NBA Second Team 2019-2020 

Post#97 » by PushDaRock » Thu Sep 17, 2020 12:38 am

That bit of extra cap space would have been nice to have but Masai still got out of that 5th year by extending him last summer.

I know people are really down on Siakam, but you still have to judge the season as a whole. With those numbers, he's still getting the 5 year Max with the All-NBA kicker and there is no negotiation at all. There's no young player that makes an All-NBA team heading into Free Agency that doesn't get the Max.
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Post#98 » by RonaldArtest » Thu Sep 17, 2020 12:39 am

Kyle is the most underrated player in the league.
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Re: Siakam All-NBA Second Team 2019-2020 

Post#99 » by agkagk » Thu Sep 17, 2020 12:43 am

Syd-TK3 wrote:He deserved it for his season

But now he's officially overpaid with this bonus


Because logic.
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Re: Siakam All-NBA Second Team 2019-2020 

Post#100 » by aminiaturebuddha » Thu Sep 17, 2020 12:51 am

Has the full voting breakdown been released yet? I'd be curious to know how close Kyle was to 3rd Team.

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