execoftheyear wrote:13th Man wrote:Kevin Willis wrote:
In UV and heat the virus has a shorter life. That's proven. However these spreads have been usually indoors - bars, clubs, gyms - where people aren't wearing masks and practising social distance. In that case it really doesn't matter what the weather outside is. For example don't recall any outbreaks happening over the summer where people social distanced at the beach or even the small numbers at protests where people are wearing masks. Fair had some suggestions - if everyone followed that we would be fine.
Nothing beats beautiful nature (except natural disasters lol). This is why I choose to be outdoors as much as possible now.
Getting back to your point, we normally do a good job of socially distancing ourselves indoors as well. In gyms, every 2nd or 3rd piece of cardio equipment is usually marked unavailable. Same with restaurant tables and booths.
For personal gatherings it's obviously harder to impose these rules in someone's private house, the other problematic settings are with bars or clubs when it's usually later in the evening and when people are often intoxicated.
This is why I feel it's unfair to target all gyms and daytime dining/coffee shops when they have taken appropriate measures for social distancing and are not serious threats.
What they could have done was targeted night clubs, restaurants or bars after a certain hour like forced closures at 10pm. Gym studios that have people packed into confined space while exercising heavily; activities such as Zumba classes, Spin studios and physical combat sports like Jiu-Jitsu or contact sparring Muay Thai clubs. Those type of confined spaces are all candidates to be spreaders, instead they lump all gyms and indoor dining together to destroy the economy, people's livelihood as well as their physical and mental well being?
This is probably why. Just imagine several potentially infected members at one gym that closed all of a sudden decide to try several different gyms that haven't experienced an outbreak. Then another potential outbreak happens at these other locations forcing these locations to close down and then members of those locations look to another location. Then you can see why only closing certain locations doesn't really work. It will just mean members of one gym that closed down will just relocate to other locations when they've been potentially exposed at the gym they were previously at.
Do gyms have masking rules? Do patrons have to keep masks on at all times? I'm not familiar with the rules at LA Fitness or Goodlife, etc. And if there are rules...are they enforced?
I get it...it's hard to work out with a mask on. But that's the problem. You spend hours in an enclosed space...masks off. Heavy breathing likely results from strenuous activity...then someone with the virus is just spewing it everywhere. Gotta have air conditioning inside the facility? Virus ends up circulating. Or...if staff aren't thorough with disinfecting equipment/work out spaces where someone with virus was just letting it all out and around...
This is obviously an example of virus spread from a restaurant in China at the start of the pandemic...but I think it applies to any indoor space with a working HVAC...
Look at how spending several hours in an enclosed space and maskless allows the air conditioning unit to spread all that **** around. I assume the people in that restaurant weren't huffing and puffing like after a fitness class, or while on a treadmill/bike/elliptical/rowing machine/bench press. They were just breathing in and out normally...and how many people ended getting the virus in that restaurant?
No matter how much social distancing in a gym...you are still indoors for hours on end, not wearing a mask (and there will be people NOT wearing masks despite mask policies) and likely respiring at an ever higher rate than normal...and the indoor air is being constantly recirculated.
You don't have to go to a gym in order to stay fit. In these next few weeks with the gyms closed...go for a walk/run or bike ride outdoors. Take advantage of the fall weather before the snow comes.