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Re: OT: COVID-19 Ontario 2nd Wave Thread ***(700 new cases 9/28) 

Post#81 » by Brinbe » Mon Sep 28, 2020 9:34 pm

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I run a restaurant in the province here. I can't tell you how many issues I have implementing the mask rule, because they are medically exempt.

All 30- something year old dudes. Every single one.

A few have written in about me, and I've have to take it on chin because "hospitality first" apparently.

Yep, I see it at work and on the TTC every day and we can't do anything about it.

People are just lazy, selfish and can't deal with a tiny bit of inconvenience, even if it goes towards the overall good of everyone.

Looks like we have a few in here too, unfortunately.


Did your employer tell you that you can't even bring it up?

The ones I had to deal with were clearly conspiracy theorists, using the medical condition as an excuse I am guessing. Same ones popping out for a smoke, have a condition that prevents that from masking up.

yep, just leave them alone.
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Re: OT: COVID-19 Ontario 2nd Wave Thread ***(700 new cases 9/28) 

Post#82 » by Tor_Raps » Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:02 pm

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I’m currently having a house built, scheduled to be completed in November. It’s been delayed about a year so far, but just monitoring prices and activity in the community over the last 2 months...houses are sold within a few days. There was a brief slowdown when this all went down...but the market is on fire right now.


Thats the alarming part. How does the housing market "go on fire" with so many losing their jobs and with the future outlook still uncertain?

Government is cutting CERB checks now so it should make things worse. Things will have to get worse before they get better again.

That's why I'm a big believer that there's increased foreign investment happening right now to keep the real estate market stable.


Let's be honest here, the people buying houses aren't the same people losing their jobs. If anything, the stay at home orders allowed those people who were able to work from home to save some money and realize just how frivolous they were. Especially the downtowners that were renting. For their rent money, they could buy a house in Oshawa or Hamilton and commute is no longer an issue due to remote working.


I don't think anyone would make permanent moves for something that is temporary. Now I realize some businesses may move more remotely but a vast amount would open their doors like it was normal once this thing is taken care of.
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Re: OT: COVID-19 Ontario 2nd Wave Thread 

Post#83 » by will » Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:16 pm

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canz55 wrote:This is a PSA for people.

Let me start by saying I would never tell anyone what to do - I have no moral authority or expertise. This is merely a suggestion that my wife and her coworkers share (she and her colleagues are all nurses in Ontario).

If you feel unwell and are curious about whether or not you have contracted COVID, please STAY HOME! DO NOT GET TESTED!

The only reason you or a loved one should ever think about walking into your local clinic or an emergency room or an assessment center is because you or a family member are so ill to the point having your respiratory system comprised leading to hospitalization.

The government of Ontario is counting on people voluntarily getting tested so they can enact more draconian measures and policies that will choke the little freedoms we have left. More testing does not help anything. If you're under the age of 50 you have an 8 percent chance of being hospitalized.

If you want to be tested in lue of a family event of 10 people or less (thanksgiving for example) and don't want to infect family members who are vulnerable people potentially, that makes total sense. But if you feel like **** and have COVID systems - don't **** go to the Thanksgiving ANYWAYS!

I had a bad cold this week (upper respiratory) and opted out of some fun social events I would have otherwise loved to have attended. I'm 99% sure I didn't/don't have COVID but I'm **** damn sure I'm not going to line up at an assessment centre so I can give the government information that I frankly don't have time to give, nor do I want to.


This is just dangerous to spew.

Here's my rebuttal.

If you're sick, get tested. If you're sick, then all the people you've contacted could be sick too. They may even be asymptomatic/pre-symptomatic. How would you feel knowing that you were sick, didn't get tested, and somebody you knew from the gym/your condo/your work place contracted the disease (since it can take a few days for symptoms to show up, so even if you stayed home once you started feeling under the weather, you still could have spread it before symptoms showed up) and visited their 95 year old granny.

Lol what do you think the governments going to do with your information? Have you never gotten your blood tested? Have you never went to a doctor's appointment? What does Ford gain from people staying home? It just screws him, since it makes him look even more incompetent. No one gives a **** about you dude the way you think they do, I'm sorry to say.


I laugh at the "little freedoms we have left". We have it great compared to other places like Hong Kong.



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Re: OT: COVID-19 Ontario 2nd Wave Thread 

Post#84 » by Jay240 » Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:56 pm

Clay Davis wrote:
canz55 wrote:This is a PSA for people.

Let me start by saying I would never tell anyone what to do - I have no moral authority or expertise. This is merely a suggestion that my wife and her coworkers share (she and her colleagues are all nurses in Ontario).

If you feel unwell and are curious about whether or not you have contracted COVID, please STAY HOME! DO NOT GET TESTED!

The only reason you or a loved one should ever think about walking into your local clinic or an emergency room or an assessment center is because you or a family member are so ill to the point having your respiratory system comprised leading to hospitalization.

The government of Ontario is counting on people voluntarily getting tested so they can enact more draconian measures and policies that will choke the little freedoms we have left. More testing does not help anything. If you're under the age of 50 you have an 8 percent chance of being hospitalized.

If you want to be tested in lue of a family event of 10 people or less (thanksgiving for example) and don't want to infect family members who are vulnerable people potentially, that makes total sense. But if you feel like **** and have COVID systems - don't **** go to the Thanksgiving ANYWAYS!

I had a bad cold this week (upper respiratory) and opted out of some fun social events I would have otherwise loved to have attended. I'm 99% sure I didn't/don't have COVID but I'm **** damn sure I'm not going to line up at an assessment centre so I can give the government information that I frankly don't have time to give, nor do I want to.


This is just dangerous to spew.

Here's my rebuttal.

If you're sick, get tested. If you're sick, then all the people you've contacted could be sick too. They may even be asymptomatic/pre-symptomatic. How would you feel knowing that you were sick, didn't get tested, and somebody you knew from the gym/your condo/your work place contracted the disease (since it can take a few days for symptoms to show up, so even if you stayed home once you started feeling under the weather, you still could have spread it before symptoms showed up) and visited their 95 year old granny.

Lol what do you think the governments going to do with your information? Have you never gotten your blood tested? Have you never went to a doctor's appointment? What does Ford gain from people staying home? It just screws him, since it makes him look even more incompetent. No one gives a **** about you dude the way you think they do, I'm sorry to say.


If you're sick stay home and isolate. If you're really bad go to the hospital. This is why testing centres are over whelmed, people get the sniffles and go line up for 4 hours.

It would already be too late if you've already visited people. A positive test won't really do. much good after the fact. Not until we get rapid testing anyways.
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Re: OT: COVID-19 Ontario 2nd Wave Thread ***(700 new cases 9/28) 

Post#85 » by Lord_Zedd » Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:10 pm

deeps6x wrote:Are 'hot spot' lockdowns an option? For example, if 90% of the cases are in Toronto, can just Toronto be locked down? Or get even more specific and start locking down 5 mile radius areas with outbreaks?

More provincial or Canada wide lock downs will cripple the economy. We need other options.


They're doing this with Quebec right now enacting restrictions again in Montreal and Quebec City.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/covid-19-montreal-quebec-city-highest-alert-level-1.5741399


Ban on home gatherings, with some exceptions such as a single caregiver allowed per visit.

All bars, casinos and restaurants are closed (takeout only).

Libraries, museums, cinemas and theatres will also be closed.

Being less than two metres apart will be prohibited. Masks will be mandatory during demonstrations.

Houses of worship and venues for events like funerals and weddings will have a 25-person limit.

Hair salons, hotels and other such businesses will stay open.

Schools will remain open.


Always felt regional restrictions didn't do much for the GTA. Locking down Peel and Toronto will have people flock to other parts of the GTA. Assuming this isn't a hard lockdown compared to what we've seen in Victoria Australia and the rest of the country.
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Re: OT: COVID-19 Ontario 2nd Wave Thread ***(700 new cases 9/28) 

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Re: OT: COVID-19 Ontario 2nd Wave Thread 

Post#87 » by canz55 » Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:24 pm

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canz55 wrote:This is a PSA for people.

Let me start by saying I would never tell anyone what to do - I have no moral authority or expertise. This is merely a suggestion that my wife and her coworkers share (she and her colleagues are all nurses in Ontario).

If you feel unwell and are curious about whether or not you have contracted COVID, please STAY HOME! DO NOT GET TESTED!

The only reason you or a loved one should ever think about walking into your local clinic or an emergency room or an assessment center is because you or a family member are so ill to the point having your respiratory system comprised leading to hospitalization.

The government of Ontario is counting on people voluntarily getting tested so they can enact more draconian measures and policies that will choke the little freedoms we have left. More testing does not help anything. If you're under the age of 50 you have an 8 percent chance of being hospitalized.

If you want to be tested in lue of a family event of 10 people or less (thanksgiving for example) and don't want to infect family members who are vulnerable people potentially, that makes total sense. But if you feel like **** and have COVID systems - don't **** go to the Thanksgiving ANYWAYS!

I had a bad cold this week (upper respiratory) and opted out of some fun social events I would have otherwise loved to have attended. I'm 99% sure I didn't/don't have COVID but I'm **** damn sure I'm not going to line up at an assessment centre so I can give the government information that I frankly don't have time to give, nor do I want to.

This post should be flagged. This guy is literally a part of the problem we're creating. Fear-mongering over 'draconian' measures is so insane. What measures has the Ontario government put out that can be considered draconian? Shutting down bars is draconian? Idiot. This is a public health issue. We can't rely on people doing the right thing. All it takes is one person not doing the right thing to break down the whole system.

Testing is important to understand how far COVID-19 has spread and for Contact Tracers to let people around you know that you were infected so they can go get tested. It's about tracing the goddamn disease.

You sound like a Trumpian rat. These aren't draconian measures... We're literally just trying to make sure everyone can be healthy during these times.




TLDR: Go get tested. It's important to know how far the COVID has spread and what actions we need to take further.
I'm fear mongering? How about you turn on the local news bud - you don't know what fear mongering is.

City News Toronto ran a bull story as their headliner last week where they interview that moron who runs the Institute of Health Metrics Evaluation (IHME) saying that between now and the end of the year, Ontario should anticipate 4,400 more Covid-19 deaths which would make a total of 7,300 deaths.

According to them, there will be more deaths over the remaining 102 days of the year (4,471 over Sept. 21st through Dec. 31st) than there has been in the entire outbreak up to the present (2,829 over Mar. 11th through Sept. 20th).

You want to scare the living hell out of people? Keep watching the news where supposed experts make preposterous predictions every other day. This is the world we're living in but because I'm pointing this out I'm a Trump supporter - got it

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Re: OT: COVID-19 Ontario 2nd Wave Thread ***(700 new cases 9/28) 

Post#88 » by Basketball_Jones » Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:01 am

Kingsway_fan wrote:All fearmongering bs... first mistakes were watching cbc or paying attention to any Canadian politician.

Second... deaths statistically zero... what 2 covid deaths today in a population over 38 million. Are you fkin serious???

You have a higher likelyhood of dying from double lightening strike than covid....

Stockholm syndrome mentality is mind boggling, lol

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You’re lucky man! I took a solo trip last month and I felt pretty safe and plan on a other one in December. But these rising numbers might mean Canadians are gonna get treated like Americans and denied entry anywhere, so I pray people use some common sense and stop gathering for parties. Oh, and Air Canada has not been kind to a lot of people so I wouldn’t thank them yet. Lot of customers have not been issued a refund since March.
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Re: OT: COVID-19 Ontario 2nd Wave Thread 

Post#89 » by execoftheyear » Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:20 am

canz55 wrote:
noname2797 wrote:
canz55 wrote:This is a PSA for people.

Let me start by saying I would never tell anyone what to do - I have no moral authority or expertise. This is merely a suggestion that my wife and her coworkers share (she and her colleagues are all nurses in Ontario).

If you feel unwell and are curious about whether or not you have contracted COVID, please STAY HOME! DO NOT GET TESTED!

The only reason you or a loved one should ever think about walking into your local clinic or an emergency room or an assessment center is because you or a family member are so ill to the point having your respiratory system comprised leading to hospitalization.

The government of Ontario is counting on people voluntarily getting tested so they can enact more draconian measures and policies that will choke the little freedoms we have left. More testing does not help anything. If you're under the age of 50 you have an 8 percent chance of being hospitalized.

If you want to be tested in lue of a family event of 10 people or less (thanksgiving for example) and don't want to infect family members who are vulnerable people potentially, that makes total sense. But if you feel like **** and have COVID systems - don't **** go to the Thanksgiving ANYWAYS!

I had a bad cold this week (upper respiratory) and opted out of some fun social events I would have otherwise loved to have attended. I'm 99% sure I didn't/don't have COVID but I'm **** damn sure I'm not going to line up at an assessment centre so I can give the government information that I frankly don't have time to give, nor do I want to.

This post should be flagged. This guy is literally a part of the problem we're creating. Fear-mongering over 'draconian' measures is so insane. What measures has the Ontario government put out that can be considered draconian? Shutting down bars is draconian? Idiot. This is a public health issue. We can't rely on people doing the right thing. All it takes is one person not doing the right thing to break down the whole system.

Testing is important to understand how far COVID-19 has spread and for Contact Tracers to let people around you know that you were infected so they can go get tested. It's about tracing the goddamn disease.

You sound like a Trumpian rat. These aren't draconian measures... We're literally just trying to make sure everyone can be healthy during these times.




TLDR: Go get tested. It's important to know how far the COVID has spread and what actions we need to take further.
I'm fear mongering? How about you turn on the local news bud - you don't know what fear mongering is.

City News Toronto ran a bull story as their headliner last week where they interview that moron who runs the Institute of Health Metrics Evaluation (IHME) saying that between now and the end of the year, Ontario should anticipate 4,400 more Covid-19 deaths which would make a total of 7,300 deaths.

According to them, there will be more deaths over the remaining 102 days of the year (4,471 over Sept. 21st through Dec. 31st) than there has been in the entire outbreak up to the present (2,829 over Mar. 11th through Sept. 20th).

You want to scare the living hell out of people? Keep watching the news where supposed experts make preposterous predictions every other day. This is the world we're living in but because I'm pointing this out I'm a Trump supporter - got it

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for something that grows exponentially, is it really that preposterous? India's cases doubled from 3 mill - 6 mill in a month. Would you rather have our government be ill-prepared for what's to come or over-prepared? I think the fact that we haven't gotten hit as hard as other countries makes people think this is a hoax or isn't really that bad, not realizing that it's the measures the government has put in place that's prevented us from reaching US/India/Italy/Spain type numbers. It's all about perspective. If I were living in the states or India, I'd say Canada is doing a pretty damn good job in containing the spread of the virus and that projected number of deaths the news is "trying to scare them with" is nothing compared to what we're dealing with.

Honestly, you kind of have to have a bit of fear otherwise you have a bunch of "brave" idiots walking around who think masks are just muzzles that take away our "freedom" and that this whole thing is a hoax. Without fear, no one would be taking this as serious as it should be taken. Just look at Florida, bars and restaurants are open at full capacity. It's tough to find a middle ground but when you still have people that think this is a hoax and that masks don't work, you're kind of forcing the government to step up the restrictions.
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Re: OT: COVID-19 Ontario 2nd Wave Thread ***(700 new cases 9/28) 

Post#90 » by BBallInSight » Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:22 am

How about we tell the vulnerable to hide out for a while and let the rest of us get it at a rate that's not too onerous on the hospital system. Then we can resume as normal. It's less dangerous than the flu for kids, and for working-age people it's really not that big of a deal. Otherwise we're looking at an economic and societal collapse that's otherwise brought only by wars.
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Re: OT: COVID-19 Ontario 2nd Wave Thread ***(700 new cases 9/28) 

Post#91 » by DHK » Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:49 am

Kingsway_fan wrote:All fearmongering bs... first mistakes were watching cbc or paying attention to any Canadian politician.

Second... deaths statistically zero... what 2 covid deaths today in a population over 38 million. Are you fkin serious???

You have a higher likelyhood of dying from double lightening strike than covid....

Stockholm syndrome mentality is mind boggling, lol

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You think its fear mongering? Smh

People with your type of mentality is exactly why theres outbreaks. These tin foil hat people shouldnt exist in this world.
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Re: OT: COVID-19 Ontario 2nd Wave Thread ***(700 new cases 9/28) 

Post#92 » by DelAbbot » Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:51 am

ruckus wrote:
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I’m currently having a house built, scheduled to be completed in November. It’s been delayed about a year so far, but just monitoring prices and activity in the community over the last 2 months...houses are sold within a few days. There was a brief slowdown when this all went down...but the market is on fire right now.


Thats the alarming part. How does the housing market "go on fire" with so many losing their jobs and with the future outlook still uncertain?

Government is cutting CERB checks now so it should make things worse. Things will have to get worse before they get better again.

That's why I'm a big believer that there's increased foreign investment happening right now to keep the real estate market stable.


Let's be honest here, the people buying houses aren't the same people losing their jobs. If anything, the stay at home orders allowed those people who were able to work from home to save some money and realize just how frivolous they were. Especially the downtowners that were renting. For their rent money, they could buy a house in Oshawa or Hamilton and commute is no longer an issue due to remote working.


I agree with this. However, in 2-3 years after everyone has been vaccinated, employers will call back employees into the office downtown (not 100% of pre-covid but at least 70%). What are these downtowner-to-suburbs employees going to do when they get called back and find out their one-way commute is 1hr-2hr long? This detached housing boom far out in the suburbs is so shortsighted and does not have support long term.
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Re: OT: COVID-19 Ontario 2nd Wave Thread ***(700 new cases 9/28) 

Post#93 » by Metallikid » Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:56 am

7 Footer wrote:blame the anti mask punks out on Dundas sq a couple of days ago


That is ridiculous and this divisiveness is dangerous to society. The cases are coming from the same places everywhere in the world whether they have strict rules or not or people follow them or not - large residential buildings especially in poor areas, between employees at workplaces, and in grocery stores - places where sick people who touch things give it to people who then touch their eyes/mouth/nose.
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Post#94 » by DHK » Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:57 am

To all of those people abiding the regulations, socially distancing and wearing masks, thank you. Its a collaborative effort and we are all making sacrifices for things to normalize.

To those who are thinking its conspiracy theory, should t be wearing masks because its a breach of freedom, and have a “dont give a damn if i get covid” attitude. Shame on you, and stop being an embarassmenr to your family, friends and yourself
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Re: OT: COVID-19 Ontario 2nd Wave Thread ***(700 new cases 9/28) 

Post#95 » by redeye514 » Tue Sep 29, 2020 2:04 am

DHK wrote:To all of those people abiding the regulations, socially distancing and wearing masks, thank you. Its a collaborative effort and we are all making sacrifices for things to normalize.

To those who are thinking its conspiracy theory, should t be wearing masks because its a breach of freedom, and have a “dont give a damn if i get covid” attitude. Shame on you, and stop being an embarassmenr to your family, friends and yourself


I feel the vast majority of people don’t fall into either of your groups to be honest, but most people think these are the only 2 groups that exist, which creates a massive divide in society.

I think a more accurate description of the 2 groups would be:

Group 1

I think most people THINK they are in the “abiding the regulations, socially distancing and wearing masks” camp, and self describe themselves as such. But in reality? Sure they take measures, but their daily lives are filled with ample amount of non critical interaction, forms of non distant socializing, and times when they simply don’t want to wear a mask when they should. This group means well and takes the virus very seriously, but simply put, are not as strict to the rules as they think they are or describe themselves to be... regardless, these people also think that people who don’t view the virus as seriously as they do as ‘trumpers’ who don’t give a F about anyone. To me, this group is quick to put people who view the virus with a bit of skepticism into the trump camp because it makes them feel better with their own flawed measures they’ve taken in their lives, despite the hypocrisies that exist. In their mind, they can say ‘well, atleast I didn’t A BC, like Johnny over there...’

Group 2

Then there is another group of people who think the virus is a bit over hyped and that the govt measures taken have been extreme without much thought about long term unintended consequences to society. ‘The medicine can’t be worse than the disease’ is a description that I think is a fair analogy in their world. But despite not being as worried as the first group I described, this group still tries to be a respectful social citizen in public, but perhaps not as aggressively as others (ie. you won’t see them wearing a mask when going for a walk in the park). When this group is confronted by a group 1 member, they are quick to call them brain washed by the media, without realizing how much is still unknown about the virus at all, especially when it comes to long terms affects and potential mutations . They are much more willing to swap the ‘better be safe than sorry’ ideology for ‘you only live once’.

Regardless of which side you lean, The trumpers and the hardcore quarantineRs are really a small percentage of society. Most of us are in the grey whether we care to admit it or not, but categorize others into the extreme. It’s not healthy for society.
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Re: OT: COVID-19 Ontario 2nd Wave Thread ***(700 new cases 9/28) 

Post#96 » by Vaclac » Tue Sep 29, 2020 2:20 am

DelAbbot wrote:
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Thats the alarming part. How does the housing market "go on fire" with so many losing their jobs and with the future outlook still uncertain?

Government is cutting CERB checks now so it should make things worse. Things will have to get worse before they get better again.

That's why I'm a big believer that there's increased foreign investment happening right now to keep the real estate market stable.


Let's be honest here, the people buying houses aren't the same people losing their jobs. If anything, the stay at home orders allowed those people who were able to work from home to save some money and realize just how frivolous they were. Especially the downtowners that were renting. For their rent money, they could buy a house in Oshawa or Hamilton and commute is no longer an issue due to remote working.


I agree with this. However, in 2-3 years after everyone has been vaccinated, employers will call back employees into the office downtown (not 100% of pre-covid but at least 70%). What are these downtowner-to-suburbs employees going to do when they get called back and find out their one-way commute is 1hr-2hr long? This detached housing boom far out in the suburbs is so shortsighted and does not have support long term.


I think they're hoping more employers permanently allow remote work. For some jobs that makes sense and would actually save companies money. Unclear though what % of companies will make this permanent shift, so they're definitely taking a risk. Also they might be thinking this won't be the last pandemic.
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Re: OT: COVID-19 Ontario 2nd Wave Thread ***(700 new cases 9/28) 

Post#97 » by Westside Gunn » Tue Sep 29, 2020 2:33 am

im not sure it will be permanent remote work. only companies that have lots and lots of cash will be willing to do it, because if you think about it, when these companies sign lease agreements on their offices, it has to be at least a 10-20 year lease. im assuming to break these leases, you would have to pay a lot of cash in penalties to get out of it.

its probably cheaper for now to keep us in the office. but long term, when these old style **** managers finally die, a new permanent approach will be taken, allowing employee flexibility.

the only exception i see are tech companies. they are way ahead of the times
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Re: OT: COVID-19 Ontario 2nd Wave Thread ***(700 new cases 9/28) 

Post#98 » by JN » Tue Sep 29, 2020 2:57 am

BBallInSight wrote:How about we tell the vulnerable to hide out for a while and let the rest of us get it at a rate that's not too onerous on the hospital system. Then we can resume as normal. It's less dangerous than the flu for kids, and for working-age people it's really not that big of a deal. Otherwise we're looking at an economic and societal collapse that's otherwise brought only by wars.


That's sort of the plan right now.
But not all the vulnerable are responsible and keeping distance -- I am sure casinos and bingo halls right now are home for many addicted elderly. That is a problem.

But it's more important that those that are much less vulnerable act responsibly so we can keep businesses going -- wear masks, keep businesses going responsibly. following social gathering rules when you are not working. Unfortunately they have no interest in that.

Lockdown is not really much of a solution anymore. Accept there will be cases due to work and school that must continue, but minimize the impact by acting responsibly on a social gathering basis outside of work -- that might hurt bars and restaurants, but a LCBO Tax should have been implemented back in March at liquor stores to subsidize these particularly vulnerable and tempting businesses.
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Re: OT: COVID-19 Ontario 2nd Wave Thread ***(700 new cases 9/28) 

Post#99 » by agentzero2010 » Tue Sep 29, 2020 3:00 am

The virus is largely contained in all developed countries except for US. There is no mandatory quarantine for anyone traveling into Canada. US and other lesser developed countries continues to have high daily new cases and they can travel into Canada via air travel with virtually no screening or follow ups.

We can all wear masks, and social distance all we want, unless there are strict travelling measures + screening and mandatory quarantine, this virus cannot and will not be properly controlled. The vaccine is not the end all and be all, we must be smart about many different aspects if we really want to control this thing.
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Re: OT: COVID-19 Ontario 2nd Wave Thread ***(700 new cases 9/28) 

Post#100 » by Kingsway_fan » Tue Sep 29, 2020 3:02 am

DHK wrote:
Kingsway_fan wrote:All fearmongering bs... first mistakes were watching cbc or paying attention to any Canadian politician.

Second... deaths statistically zero... what 2 covid deaths today in a population over 38 million. Are you fkin serious???

You have a higher likelyhood of dying from double lightening strike than covid....

Stockholm syndrome mentality is mind boggling, lol

Been traveling throughout Europe all summer.. thanks Air Canad been awesome...


You think its fear mongering? Smh

People with your type of mentality is exactly why theres outbreaks. These tin foil hat people shouldnt exist in this world.


It is blatant fear mongering bs by our politicians and media.... thats a fact.... here in paris, all restaurants , bars open and full.. no distancing in any cafe or restaurant.. no masks except whrn outside... same germany... covid deaths are statistically zero.... but keep pumping..... our media is the worst... never watch anything on TV in canada or ever read a paper from canada or listen to those fools as politicians....

Fear obesity.. not covid... you won't die from covid...

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