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2020-21 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1

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Re: 2020-21 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1 

Post#561 » by Zeno » Fri Jan 15, 2021 8:39 pm

ItsDanger wrote:Sounds like Oladipo to Raptors in FA is another wet dream. Focus on RFAs that want out or other players that teams do not want to pay. There is opportunity out there. This is our best option currently.

This is why I think New Orleans is a sneaky Lowry trade team. I don't think they really want to pay Lonzo. They love getting vets to build a culture around their two young stars. Lonzo, Fred backcourt feels very Nurse too. Lonzo is like super McCaw.
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Post#563 » by WaltFrazier » Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:34 pm

Duffman100 wrote:Baynes is a team option right? He looks physically finished. Zero lift, zero quickness...just a step behind everything.

That can't get better by sitting. He had a nice dunk last night off a pass, and a charge on D and another play or 2. i'd like to see him get a few more chances in a game like that, maybe spot duty when size is needed, for a rebound.
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Post#564 » by Bruin » Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:52 pm

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If the deal that guy proposed is at all on the table we better jump on that lol. The comparison to the Jrue package was a nice point too. Although Holiday at 30 is younger than Kyle, this is pretty much Phillys window considering Embiids health issues and size since he won’t have quite as much longevity. Holiday cost 3 first rounder and 2 pick swaps. Getting Maxey and 2 first rounders for a legit shot at contention and fixing pretty much the main Achilles heel of the sixers is honestly pretty reasonable imo
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Post#565 » by TheBoi10 » Sat Jan 16, 2021 12:46 am

ItsDanger wrote:Sounds like Oladipo to Raptors in FA is another wet dream. Focus on RFAs that want out or other players that teams do not want to pay. There is opportunity out there. This is our best option currently.


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Post#566 » by T-d0t » Sat Jan 16, 2021 1:11 am

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C-R-E-A-M- wrote:

If the deal that guy proposed is at all on the table we better jump on that lol. The comparison to the Jrue package was a nice point too. Although Holiday at 30 is younger than Kyle, this is pretty much Phillys window considering Embiids health issues and size since he won’t have quite as much longevity. Holiday cost 3 first rounder and 2 pick swaps. Getting Maxey and 2 first rounders for a legit shot at contention and fixing pretty much the main Achilles heel of the sixers is honestly pretty reasonable imo
No way we get all that for Lowry. The Score is on something if they think we can get all that from Philly.
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Post#567 » by Bruin » Sat Jan 16, 2021 1:36 am

T-d0t wrote:
PrinceAli wrote:
C-R-E-A-M- wrote:

If the deal that guy proposed is at all on the table we better jump on that lol. The comparison to the Jrue package was a nice point too. Although Holiday at 30 is younger than Kyle, this is pretty much Phillys window considering Embiids health issues and size since he won’t have quite as much longevity. Holiday cost 3 first rounder and 2 pick swaps. Getting Maxey and 2 first rounders for a legit shot at contention and fixing pretty much the main Achilles heel of the sixers is honestly pretty reasonable imo
No way we get all that for Lowry. The Score is on something if they think we can get all that from Philly.

Regardless I hope Beal doesn’t become available so a bidding war starts for Kyle between a bunch of contending teams
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Post#568 » by Zeno » Sat Jan 16, 2021 1:41 am

T-d0t wrote:
PrinceAli wrote:
C-R-E-A-M- wrote:

If the deal that guy proposed is at all on the table we better jump on that lol. The comparison to the Jrue package was a nice point too. Although Holiday at 30 is younger than Kyle, this is pretty much Phillys window considering Embiids health issues and size since he won’t have quite as much longevity. Holiday cost 3 first rounder and 2 pick swaps. Getting Maxey and 2 first rounders for a legit shot at contention and fixing pretty much the main Achilles heel of the sixers is honestly pretty reasonable imo
No way we get all that for Lowry. The Score is on something if they think we can get all that from Philly.

Yeah, the most I see us getting is Thybulle, a 1st and New York’s 2nd. I could see us sending Norm and Green to Cleveland for Drummond and an additional 2nd maybe. Two 1sts and a swap plus two prospects is crazy for an expiring. We’d need to take on money to get something like that.
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Post#569 » by tecumseh18 » Sat Jan 16, 2021 1:54 am

PrinceAli wrote:
T-d0t wrote:
PrinceAli wrote:If the deal that guy proposed is at all on the table we better jump on that lol. The comparison to the Jrue package was a nice point too. Although Holiday at 30 is younger than Kyle, this is pretty much Phillys window considering Embiids health issues and size since he won’t have quite as much longevity. Holiday cost 3 first rounder and 2 pick swaps. Getting Maxey and 2 first rounders for a legit shot at contention and fixing pretty much the main Achilles heel of the sixers is honestly pretty reasonable imo
No way we get all that for Lowry. The Score is on something if they think we can get all that from Philly.

Regardless I hope Beal doesn’t become available so a bidding war starts for Kyle between a bunch of contending teams


Yes, a bidding war is our best chance to get Maxey + picks, or Precious.

OTOH, if Heat do get Beal, then Philly with be DESPERATE. Masai likes 'em DESPERATE.
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Post#570 » by tecumseh18 » Sat Jan 16, 2021 1:58 am

Zeno wrote:Two 1sts and a swap plus two prospects is crazy for an expiring. We’d need to take on money to get something like that.


Maxey + 2021, 2023 FRPs is fine. A 2022 swap will be useless unless Raps sign Kawhi back this summer (lol).

But Kyle shouldn't be looked at as a pure rental. He's going home, and the Sixers will be a contender for years. He would re-sign for around $10 mill or so.
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Post#571 » by Bruin » Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:31 am

tecumseh18 wrote:
PrinceAli wrote:
T-d0t wrote:No way we get all that for Lowry. The Score is on something if they think we can get all that from Philly.

Regardless I hope Beal doesn’t become available so a bidding war starts for Kyle between a bunch of contending teams


Yes, a bidding war is our best chance to get Maxey + picks, or Precious.

OTOH, if Heat do get Beal, then Philly with be DESPERATE. Masai likes 'em DESPERATE.

That’s true. If Miami can get Beal then Philly is gonna have to scramble for some improvements

Wouldn’t mind it lol
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Post#572 » by PoundTown » Sat Jan 16, 2021 3:54 am

tecumseh18 wrote:
Zeno wrote:Two 1sts and a swap plus two prospects is crazy for an expiring. We’d need to take on money to get something like that.


Maxey + 2021, 2023 FRPs is fine. A 2022 swap will be useless unless Raps sign Kawhi back this summer (lol).

But Kyle shouldn't be looked at as a pure rental. He's going home, and the Sixers will be a contender for years. He would re-sign for around $10 mill or so.


If you can get maxey and this years first you do it. 2 firsts given kyles age is probably a bit much if you’re the sixers.
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Post#573 » by fbalmeida » Sat Jan 16, 2021 11:23 am

ItsDanger wrote:Sounds like Oladipo to Raptors in FA is another wet dream. Focus on RFAs that want out or other players that teams do not want to pay. There is opportunity out there. This is our best option currently.



Dipo in 2021 FA
Collins as a RFA in 2021
Beal has a player option in 2022, but may become available via trade as soon as next week.
LaVine, Fox, and Grant are also all potentially going to want out of their current locations by the end of this seasons.

That's an interesting pool, considering how all remaining competition is essentially maxed out in terms of cap space.

The Heat, Mavs, and Raptors are the only good teams/organizations in a position to add talent.

I wouldn't bet against Masai and Bobby.
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Post#574 » by Skeezo » Sat Jan 16, 2021 6:54 pm

When it comes to dealing with Philly, I flip flop on the inclusion of Harris in the deal versus a combination of Green and others to make the cash work. In some ways, I question if we can gain a better player than Harris in Free Agency, so why not grab him. However, I also consider if we would be able to use the cap space in other trades to gain better draft assets than what Harris could bring to the team...

Either way, any deal involving Philly and Lowry that can get us Maxey, and First Round Picks in 2021 and 2023, I am all aboard. I believe Norm is worth a 1st Rounder to a contender

Maxey
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Siakim
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+ multiple first round picks in each of the next 3 years is a pretty good base from which to build.
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Post#575 » by 2muchTLC » Sat Jan 16, 2021 7:18 pm

PrinceAli wrote:
C-R-E-A-M- wrote:

If the deal that guy proposed is at all on the table we better jump on that lol. The comparison to the Jrue package was a nice point too. Although Holiday at 30 is younger than Kyle, this is pretty much Phillys window considering Embiids health issues and size since he won’t have quite as much longevity. Holiday cost 3 first rounder and 2 pick swaps. Getting Maxey and 2 first rounders for a legit shot at contention and fixing pretty much the main Achilles heel of the sixers is honestly pretty reasonable imo


bucks were also backs against the wall in re-signing giannis if they didn't get Jrue. I'd say they overpaid. Lowry probably fetches 1 prospect+1 pick
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Post#576 » by Bruin » Sat Jan 16, 2021 7:21 pm

2muchTLC wrote:
PrinceAli wrote:
C-R-E-A-M- wrote:

If the deal that guy proposed is at all on the table we better jump on that lol. The comparison to the Jrue package was a nice point too. Although Holiday at 30 is younger than Kyle, this is pretty much Phillys window considering Embiids health issues and size since he won’t have quite as much longevity. Holiday cost 3 first rounder and 2 pick swaps. Getting Maxey and 2 first rounders for a legit shot at contention and fixing pretty much the main Achilles heel of the sixers is honestly pretty reasonable imo


bucks were also backs against the wall in re-signing giannis if they didn't get Jrue. I'd say they overpaid. Lowry probably fetches 1 prospect+1 pick

And I’d be totally fine with that return. Would rather it not be Thybulle though. Has to be either Maxey or Milton for it to be worth it for us since the pick would be a late 1st anyways
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Post#577 » by Steelo Green » Sat Jan 16, 2021 8:11 pm

John Collins is like like Demar. No D and not a winner.

Oladipo would be an overpay for be what a 6-8 seed for the next 5 years?

Beal would be had for 3+ unprotected first rounders + Fred/Siakam and again, for what - to be a 6-8 seed?

Kawhi added to this group in a vacuum and we aren’t a contender because we lost a lot of the depth we had, and Kyle was still at an all-star level.

Blow it up.
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Re: 2020-21 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1 

Post#578 » by HangTime » Sat Jan 16, 2021 8:45 pm

Raptors get:
Drummond, Maxey, Thybulle

76ers get:
Lowry, Thomas

Cavs get:
Danny Green, Mike Scott, Powell


Then you figure out where the picks go.
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Post#579 » by Bruin » Sat Jan 16, 2021 9:16 pm

HangTime wrote:Raptors get:
Drummond, Maxey, Thybulle

76ers get:
Lowry, Thomas

Cavs get:
Danny Green, Mike Scott, Powell


Then you figure out where the picks go.

That deal doesn’t benefit the Cavs in any way
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Post#580 » by Kingsway_fan » Sat Jan 16, 2021 10:23 pm

Either way, any deal involving Philly and Lowry that can get us Maxey, and First Round Picks in 2021 and 2023, I am all aboard. I believe Norm is worth a 1st Rounder to a contender


I like your thinking.... yes... if we could get that for Kyle I would consider it a success. Same for norm.

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