ash_k wrote:Steelo Green wrote:ash_k wrote:He passively averaged 10 points last year. He is a 40% 3PT shooter. He can score 10 pts just off his size/athleticism/strength.
He has all the tools to average 5 more points (at least) than last year.
But of course, feel free to have your reality.
My reality is a player who in 3 years has averaged less than 10 points a game over their career, and last year a career high almost 11 with nothing really increasing except some usage. He has been the same player since his rookie year. His rookie TS was 59 and last year 60, if we increase his usage he will decrease the efficiency, but we don't run more plays because he just doesn't have much offensive talent.
You don't just jump 5 points on hopes and feelings.
He scores most of his points from assisted baskets, and without Kyle it will look even worse.
What tools are you talking about? Players have tools, Joey Graham looked amazing physically, but he simply isn't skilled.
OG is not going to be a scorer in the NBA, sorry to burst your bubblee.
like I said feel free to have your reality:Like comparing Joey Graham to OG or like 'scoring 15 pts in the NBA' means "being a scorer in the NBA". Enjoy OG's growth this season.
I’m sorry, what?
What is this deflection tactic now.
You said he could score 5 more points based on his tools. I knew of a Raptor once who was physically gifted more so than anyone to be a good scorer and nothing came of it. I’m responding to the logic you used and giving an example.
You either do or you don’t. As of now I have 3 years of empirical data, and then yesterday where he looks like nothing has improved at all in terms of creating off the dribble or drives to the basket, and you have your hopes and feelings of he will break out because he will?
Even in the playoffs against Boston he averaged 12 on 13.5% usage.
The Raptors would love a wing player who could create some scoring, but OG isn’t that guy.
15 points in the NBA is a far cry from 10. I could say well OG is only 5 points away from 5 points too and you would say that’s crazy to think of such a huge backwards jump. Where is this arbitrary 5 points number even coming from?
OG averaged 11 in his sophomore year at Indiana.
He was like the 200th recruit out of high school not known for scoring ability.
But let’s see in 20 games if he’s at 12 PPG and people will be excited for his “huge growth” from skills he doesn’t have.