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It's been a long time coming, but Raptors fans we are back! Join the movement before the bandwagon fills up.

Can I interest you in a Jalen Suggs, Cade Cunningham, Jonathan Kuminga or Evan Mobley?

Let's see those TWO memes and maybe, just maybe we can see a return of the Hulkster.

Some people are just lifetime losers. Its all they know and all they want to know. Winners don't justify losing.

Don't be like TWO.

4 Life Chico

I think a trade can shake things up! Remember when we traded Rudy and suddenly Pat Patterson / Grievas Vasquez / John Salmons were superstars and helped lead us to the playoffs. So, who is are Rudy this season?

tank tank tank world order

LOL, a few losses and the pro tank crowd runs rampant. Some contenders need a better bench if you watch some other games. The smurf backcourt needs to stop.

Basketball_Jones wrote:I think a trade can shake things up! Remember when we traded Rudy and suddenly Pat Patterson / Grievas Vasquez / John Salmons were superstars and helped lead us to the playoffs. So, who is are Rudy this season?

Honestly, this would just be shuffling chairs on the Titanic. Let Lowry go to a contender and get this tank on. 2021 and 2022 are both great drafts by all accounts. Stockpile those picks!

Basketball_Jones wrote:I think a trade can shake things up! Remember when we traded Rudy and suddenly Pat Patterson / Grievas Vasquez / John Salmons were superstars and helped lead us to the playoffs. So, who is are Rudy this season?

Siakam

Without Lowry, the lottery is inevitable. Hope we don't draw this out till the deadline.

I mean this season would be good time to take a step back. If it's meant to be it's meant to be

Kreamy wrote:Without Lowry, the lottery is inevitable. Hope we don't draw this out till the deadline.

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This is the crazy part, the "new core" is being propped up by a 34 year old Lowry and it's simply keeping this team bad, instead of outright awful. Siakam and FVV are in their prime and OG is entering his 4th season as a starter, thinking there is substantial upside to that core is asinine.

Don't let Lowry waste another year of defying the aging curve to squeak into the playoffs and be a first round out.

Kreamy wrote:Without Lowry, the lottery is inevitable. Hope we don't draw this out till the deadline.

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Will miss Lowry for sure, the GOAT!

HKBOY wrote:

Kreamy wrote:Without Lowry, the lottery is inevitable. Hope we don't draw this out till the deadline.

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Will miss Lowry for sure, the GOAT!

To me it’s simple. We gotta pick a lane.
1. We either go all in for harden and maximize the next two years of lowry and go for a chip. I think Kyle has 2 all star level years left in him.

1. Trade Kyle and embrace the tank. We’d for sure be a lotto team without him.

Suggs and Emoni Bates.

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Basketball_Jones wrote:I think a trade can shake things up! Remember when we traded Rudy and suddenly Pat Patterson / Grievas Vasquez / John Salmons were superstars and helped lead us to the playoffs. So, who is are Rudy this season?

Siakam

I agree, comparisons are pretty good. Inefficient, tons of shots, but good defense/rebounding/some passing/etc. Overall though, I'm finding Siakam is hurting us when he's out there. Just like Rudy was. Anybody want to dig up Siakam's last ten games, going back to the playoffs? I'm terrified to see them...

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Kreamy wrote:Without Lowry, the lottery is inevitable. Hope we don't draw this out till the deadline.

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This is the crazy part, the "new core" is being propped up by a 34 year old Lowry and it's simply keeping this team bad, instead of outright awful. Siakam and FVV are in their prime and OG is entering his 4th season as a starter, thinking there is substantial upside to that core is asinine.

Don't let Lowry waste another year of defying the aging curve to squeak into the playoffs and be a first round out.

First you said tank. Then just two days ago you said we should just finish in the lottery anywhere and not worry about tanking. Now this. What a joke.

Even if we make the playoffs (I’m sure we will) we aren’t making much noise. We just don’t have the pieces. I also, don’t see us tanking. We should trade Lowry and get what we can. We need to rebuild/retool. We got some nice young talent but nothing is game changing.

Let's sell off expiring contracts (Lowry & Norm) and accumulate assets along with our core of Siakam, OG, Flynn and TD (trade FVV as soon as able).

Please let's not hang on to veterans too long and lose them for nothing like Serge and Gasol and Blue Jays not selling Josh Donaldson when window closed end of 2016.

Johnny Bball wrote:

Pooh_Jeter wrote:

Kreamy wrote:Without Lowry, the lottery is inevitable. Hope we don't draw this out till the deadline.

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This is the crazy part, the "new core" is being propped up by a 34 year old Lowry and it's simply keeping this team bad, instead of outright awful. Siakam and FVV are in their prime and OG is entering his 4th season as a starter, thinking there is substantial upside to that core is asinine.

Don't let Lowry waste another year of defying the aging curve to squeak into the playoffs and be a first round out.

First you said tank. Then just two days ago you said we should just finish in the lottery anywhere and not worry about tanking. Now this. What a joke.

I think the point which seems to go over everyone's head is, consistent lottery picks will likely deem a true franchise cornerstone, and the worse the record, the better the pick. If we are going and don't think this core or anyone in it is it, just blow it all up.

I don't think Fred, Pascal or OG are guys you must move forward with, but OG with his contract and age I would be willing to keep him. The other two you pretty much know what you get.

Pascal seemingly as his usage went up went from a swiss army knife to Demar 2.0 who plays good D.

2-3 top 10 picks with Masai, Bobby and Dan and I am confident they hit on at least one player, and the worse the record, the better the pick, so why not.

Plus I think most of us on pro sell the assets and get back into the draft know this thread was made tongue in cheek reminiscent to the Tank for Wiggins bandwagon.

It's a forum, we're just having fun, it isn't that serious

Let's hope Washington keeps losing. They just got Westbrook though, they won't abandon ship so soon. Trade deadline at the earliest to move Beal.