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Tank World Order (2.0)

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At 10-13 where do you stand now?

TWO: True tank... Sell all assets and start hoping to land a Top 5 pick through the Lottery
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Asset-Building Mode: Trade Powell/Lowry but Keep Long-Term Core
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Asset-Building Mode: Wait Until Trade Deadline and Let Lowry Make His Own Call
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Buyer Mode: Trade Multiple Picks/Players to Get Star... Continue Competing with Lowry
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Organic Growth Mode: Likely Means Waiting Until Offseason Unless No-Brainer Trade Presents Itself
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Re: Tank World Order (2.0) 

Post#1441 » by tecumseh18 » Wed Apr 7, 2021 11:29 am

OAKLEY_2 wrote:Also this guy is a keeper.



Holy crap. So that's what handles on a 6' 9" guy looks like. This will help me calm down after the loss to the Wizards' tank.

There's other guys south of the top 5.
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Post#1442 » by Psubs » Wed Apr 7, 2021 12:32 pm

tecumseh18 wrote:
OAKLEY_2 wrote:Also this guy is a keeper.



Holy crap. So that's what handles on a 6' 9" guy looks like. This will help me calm down after the loss to the Wizards' tank.

There's other guys south of the top 5.


I guess he shoots the 3 as well as Siakam. :D

Siakam with worse rebounding but better passing.
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Post#1443 » by WuTang_OG » Wed Apr 7, 2021 1:11 pm

Tortiglioni wrote:There is a massive drop-off after top 5 in this draft and very little separating prospects in the 6-20+ range.


Nobody can say this with certainty. Remember 2016? It was the top 8 and then it fell off after that which included guys like marquess chriss, bender, kriss dunn. Just goes to show media scouts know nothing.

Nevertheless, it will make Masai's job easier the higher the pick.
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Post#1444 » by CoinTossRoss31 » Wed Apr 7, 2021 1:14 pm

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Raps in 4 wrote:How long do you guys think it would take us to get back to the finals with Cade? His second year? Third?

You're that sold on Cade? I still can't separate him, Green and Mobley.



Im also not sold on Cade as much as some others.

In fantasy land where we somehow end up with #1OA I'd be more than open to trade with orlando If their picks land where they should

1 for #4 and #9

Rather have Green/Suggs + Barnes/Bouknight over Cade. Just something to think about :nod:
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Post#1445 » by Son Goku 25 » Wed Apr 7, 2021 1:17 pm

We need elite scorers and creators with size and athleticism, and they should be able to hold their own on defense minimum.
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Post#1446 » by JShuttlesworth » Wed Apr 7, 2021 1:52 pm

720 wrote:
JShuttlesworth wrote:I think we're looking at 10 wins at most from here on out, no more than 30 wins this year.

10 is too much. I see around 5-6 wins IF we lose some of these games the next two weeks. This is by far our easiest stretch.


10 would be worst case scenario. If we lose a couple easy ones in April, we'll set ourselves up nicely for the draft.

Next 10 Games:

Apr 8 Chicago Bulls
Apr 9 @ Cleveland Cavaliers
Apr 11 @ New York Knicks
Apr 13 Atlanta Hawks
Apr 14 San Antonio Spurs
Apr 16 Orlando Magic
Apr 18 Oklahoma City Thunder
Apr 21 Brooklyn Nets
Apr 24 @ New York Knicks
Apr 26 Cleveland Cavaliers

Must lose games against the Bulls, Cavs (x2), Knicks (x2), OKC.
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Post#1447 » by OAKLEY_2 » Wed Apr 7, 2021 3:10 pm

JShuttlesworth wrote:
720 wrote:
JShuttlesworth wrote:I think we're looking at 10 wins at most from here on out, no more than 30 wins this year.

10 is too much. I see around 5-6 wins IF we lose some of these games the next two weeks. This is by far our easiest stretch.


10 would be worst case scenario. If we lose a couple easy ones in April, we'll set ourselves up nicely for the draft.

Next 10 Games:

Apr 8 Chicago Bulls
Apr 9 @ Cleveland Cavaliers
Apr 11 @ New York Knicks
Apr 13 Atlanta Hawks
Apr 14 San Antonio Spurs
Apr 16 Orlando Magic
Apr 18 Oklahoma City Thunder
Apr 21 Brooklyn Nets
Apr 24 @ New York Knicks
Apr 26 Cleveland Cavaliers

Must lose games against the Bulls, Cavs (x2), Knicks (x2), OKC.


Yup! At least GSW isn't in there for a 70 point "W" without consistent effort. I still think worst case scenario is drafting either Davion Mitchell or U Garuba which is not a bad pace to be. Then the pressure is on to Norman Powell one of the two second rounders.
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Post#1448 » by OAKLEY_2 » Wed Apr 7, 2021 3:22 pm

CoinTossRoss31 wrote:
God Squad wrote:
Raps in 4 wrote:How long do you guys think it would take us to get back to the finals with Cade? His second year? Third?

You're that sold on Cade? I still can't separate him, Green and Mobley.



Im also not sold on Cade as much as some others.

In fantasy land where we somehow end up with #1OA I'd be more than open to trade with orlando If their picks land where they should

1 for #4 and #9

Rather have Green/Suggs + Barnes/Bouknight over Cade. Just something to think about :nod:


If we go on who is the most gifted athlete I pick Suggs first overall.
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Post#1449 » by OAKLEY_2 » Wed Apr 7, 2021 3:23 pm

If Minny Picks Suggs first overall I take that back.
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Post#1450 » by Raps in 4 » Wed Apr 7, 2021 3:30 pm

OAKLEY_2 wrote:
CoinTossRoss31 wrote:
God Squad wrote:You're that sold on Cade? I still can't separate him, Green and Mobley.



Im also not sold on Cade as much as some others.

In fantasy land where we somehow end up with #1OA I'd be more than open to trade with orlando If their picks land where they should

1 for #4 and #9

Rather have Green/Suggs + Barnes/Bouknight over Cade. Just something to think about :nod:


If we go on who is the most gifted athlete I pick Suggs first overall.


I always value basketball IQ over athleticism in a prospect.
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Post#1451 » by 720 » Wed Apr 7, 2021 3:45 pm

I hope Cade gets disrespected and drops so we can nab him at like 3 or 4. Doubt it happens though.
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Post#1452 » by Son Goku 25 » Wed Apr 7, 2021 3:53 pm

Cade on an NBA spaced out floor with good shooters and smart players will be elite. I need Booshay and Siakam to stop making dumb offensive fouls and jumping on any fake. Those small things really matter like being in thr right position, not getting stuck on those back screens or losing a man.

Rebounding above avg for your position is something we desperately need in a player as well.
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Post#1453 » by Son Goku 25 » Wed Apr 7, 2021 3:57 pm

Does this guy have any potential in the next level?

His size alone would be great on bench, he seems pretty agile for his size too. Might be a decent late pick or 2nd round.

His last name for sure will sell jerseys

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Post#1454 » by Psubs » Wed Apr 7, 2021 4:19 pm

OAKLEY_2 wrote:If Minny Picks Suggs first overall I take that back.


Pick hometown boy!

It would be cool if Suggs and Green went 1/2, then #3 has a team like Golden State that needs a big to take Mobley.

Like Luka being drafted #3. :D

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Post#1455 » by JShuttlesworth » Wed Apr 7, 2021 4:27 pm

Raps in 4 wrote:How long do you guys think it would take us to get back to the finals with Cade? His second year? Third?


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Post#1456 » by Jerry Lucas » Wed Apr 7, 2021 5:27 pm

Raps in 4 wrote:How long do you guys think it would take us to get back to the finals with Cade? His second year? Third?

Not sure about 2-3 years but the way back would be much shorter with Cade or Jalen Green as our closer than with any of our current stars.
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Re: Tank World Order (2.0) 

Post#1457 » by PrinceAli » Wed Apr 7, 2021 5:31 pm

OAKLEY_2 wrote:
CoinTossRoss31 wrote:
God Squad wrote:You're that sold on Cade? I still can't separate him, Green and Mobley.



Im also not sold on Cade as much as some others.

In fantasy land where we somehow end up with #1OA I'd be more than open to trade with orlando If their picks land where they should

1 for #4 and #9

Rather have Green/Suggs + Barnes/Bouknight over Cade. Just something to think about :nod:


If we go on who is the most gifted athlete I pick Suggs first overall.

It’s pretty crazy Suggs was also a QB with offers from Ohio State and others. Apparently he was considering playing both football and basketball in college but then he fell in love with Gonzaga and they don’t have a football team so he committed fully to basketball
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Re: Tank World Order (2.0) 

Post#1458 » by OAKLEY_2 » Wed Apr 7, 2021 7:31 pm

Tortiglioni wrote:
OAKLEY_2 wrote:
Tortiglioni wrote:There is a massive drop-off after top 5 in this draft and very little separating prospects in the 6-20+ range.


Loving this kid.


There are definitely some nice players that will go later in the lottery and first round. I just feel like the 6-10 range (probably where the Raptors will pick) is horrible value in this draft.


Raps will reach if they have to.
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Post#1459 » by OAKLEY_2 » Wed Apr 7, 2021 7:36 pm

Raps in 4 wrote:
OAKLEY_2 wrote:
CoinTossRoss31 wrote:

Im also not sold on Cade as much as some others.

In fantasy land where we somehow end up with #1OA I'd be more than open to trade with orlando If their picks land where they should

1 for #4 and #9

Rather have Green/Suggs + Barnes/Bouknight over Cade. Just something to think about :nod:


If we go on who is the most gifted athlete I pick Suggs first overall.


I always value basketball IQ over athleticism in a prospect.



Suggs might also be your guy.
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Post#1460 » by OAKLEY_2 » Wed Apr 7, 2021 7:37 pm

Jerry Lucas wrote:
Raps in 4 wrote:How long do you guys think it would take us to get back to the finals with Cade? His second year? Third?

Not sure about 2-3 years but the way back would be much shorter with Cade or Jalen Green as our closer than with any of our current stars.


Not counting out Trent Jr. just yet.

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